Lachlan was born in Sydney, 3 years before Adrian signed for Wigan.

It seems that the club are trying to get Lachlan off the overseas quota. They have formally applied to the RFL to have him removed due to the fact he spent time playing in Wigan when his dad was there. Hopefully it works,it would be massive if they could. No harm trying. You don’t ask, you don’t get.

This is why i made the post ,I was told we had been in touch with ST Pats a couple of weeks ago , to get a couple of rules verified , hopefully it could work in our favour .

You may possibly have given them the idea to do so Charlie. Hopefully it’s a good outcome. Well done to you sir if that is the case and we get the result.

Looks like fortunately St Pats have saved Leyth a quota spot.

Is that official, A? Before your clarification on the French thread (for which thanks), was thinking of invoking the only man that seems to know all the rules. Will ask you now the thing that is fuddling Bongser's already addled noggin: even if Lachlan turns out to be Fed trained, does he not still count as an overseas player by birth?

Sep, a coupla months ago posted a beginners' guide by some journo who seemed not to understand it himself and left this party even more confused!

It’s quite simple Bongser. He first played RL and registered for a British club in his youth.

Ok, so Lachy born in Sydney 1998, Dad played for the Pies 2001-2004. Young Lachy played junior Rugby for St Pats hence available (I think not).
The Federation stuff was designed for people who joined academies (aged16-21) attached to Professional clubs.

If Leigh can squeeze this through it will be a minor miracle but it would help us out tremendously.

He must have been registered to play for St Pats. Regardless of age. It has nothing to do with academies.

A Non-Federation trained player is a player who was not trained by an RLEF (Rugby League European Federation) member club for three years before the age of 21.

The question is did Lachy get 3 seasons in at St Pats starting at age 3 or 4. Maybe started junior Rugby aged 6 so probably not.

Given his background, it is quite possible that Lachlan trained and played for 3 years aged four five and six. We will find out before too long.

Is St Pats a RLEF(Rugby League European Federation) member club? Another question we don't know the answer to.
England and the RFL are Full members of the RLEF, but are all amateur clubs part of the RFL? All will be revealed.

St Pats is presumably a BARLA team. What we don't know is whether BARLA are under the RFL's umbrella. With the head honchos gone does anyone at the RFL know?

Which overseas players are already signed up for 2023 and how many spots have we left? Lam, Ipape and Ferguson announced any others confirmed? Which others do we wish and expect to keep?

Nene, Amone and Asiata (the latter dependent on promotion to Bongser's understanding) are signed up. Wish we could keep the rest!

So only one slot left unless we get Lam allowed. Would Caleb count with him qualifying for Wales?

Nope. He'd still be a quota player.

The Rugby League live lot keep saying we've signed Amone, but it's never been confirmed by the club as far as I am aware. They also never list Asiata despite Derek confirming he's with us for definite if we're in SL.

Asiata contract carries the SL clause. He has a choice to leave if Leigh don’t make SL. But has no choice if they do for 12 months as I believe he was contracted with clause for two years.

Which Clause , Claws ,or Claus.

We will find out Charlie when the circus comes to town.

Asiata here irrespective next season, however will be amazed/astonished/mind blown if we are in the champ- stranger things have happened but it would be the shock of all shocks for us not to win next Sunday

...and a miscarriage of justice, Col.

No disputing that ColD. But the clauses are still in force until fulfilled.

Asiata is a Leigh player next season irrespective - Lam said so in the journal