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| [urlhttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/rugby-star-scott-moore-jailed-for-fighting-off-police-who-tasered-him-six-times-after-150mph-high-a3783256.html[/url
Standard, Standard, read all about it.....first time I've seen RL mentioned in that rag for years...
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| Quote ="Call Me God"[urlhttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/rugby-star-scott-moore-jailed-for-fighting-off-police-who-tasered-him-six-times-after-150mph-high-a3783256.html[/url
Standard, Standard, read all about it.....first time I've seen RL mentioned in that rag for years...'"
Mentioned this on the TRL forum, in all my years (got to read something on your commute) reading it never seen RL mentioned, not even when the CC is at Wembley.
On the plus side it only mentioned RL once and the headline simply said "Rugby" so there is a slight advantage to nobody knowing the difference.
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| I found it hilarious that they banned him from driving for 2 years yet sent him down for nearly that...unless the ban starts upon his release of course.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"must be mental health issues and we feel sorry for him, isn't that the thinking of some on here?
Utterly moronic, if this was in the US he'd be dead by now.'"
It was my thinking with regards to Malc Alker as it was clear that he was having problems in life as far back as being a Salford player with addiction to pain killers then problems with depression after retiring.
I don't remember saying i felt sorry for him.
Why generalise a whole forum and every rugby league player over something you read once? I genuinely felt the signs for Alker were the same as that i've seen of the likes of Terry Newton. One turned to crime, one turned to suicide.
That doesn't mean this whole forum thinks like that about the lot of them... but who knows. Maybe mental health issues are more of an issue with people who do things like this than society realises. And possibly instead of calling people with mental health issues "thick" "thugs" society should take it more seriously and be more concerned with how to tackle the issues rather than sticking a label on people to keep them at arms length.
Of course some people are genuinely just thugs who enjoy being thugs and should be locked up. Doesn't mean everyone is like that though.
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| Do you reckon that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth?
On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"It was my thinking with regards to Malc Alker as it was clear that he was having problems in life as far back as being a Salford player with addiction to pain killers then problems with depression after retiring.
I don't remember saying i felt sorry for him.
Why generalise a whole forum and every rugby league player over something you read once? I genuinely felt the signs for Alker were the same as that i've seen of the likes of Terry Newton. One turned to crime, one turned to suicide.
That doesn't mean this whole forum thinks like that about the lot of them... but who knows. Maybe mental health issues are more of an issue with people who do things like this than society realises. And possibly instead of calling people with mental health issues "thick" "thugs" society should take it more seriously and be more concerned with how to tackle the issues rather than sticking a label on people to keep them at arms length.
Of course some people are genuinely just thugs who enjoy being thugs and should be locked up. Doesn't mean everyone is like that though.'"
Generalising? Since when is the word SOME the same as ALL?
Knowing a bit about depression and bi-polar to me the acts of the likes of Chase and most of the other RL players incl Moore is not a simple mental health issue, it's more of a simple I don't give a flying fig of a wrong un. You could define that as a mental problem but then we might as well excuse murderers, rapists, paedophiles and all sorts on the basis of not straight cognitive thinking
I called him a moron, for the act, I never said he was thick or a thug, his act WAS moronic, he endangered others lives, he then violently resisted arrest threatening to harm a police officer.
Do you think this is a mental health issue or do you think this is the act of a moron who doesn't give a flying f@@k about anyone except himself?
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| Quote ="Karen"I found it hilarious that they banned him from driving for 2 years yet sent him down for nearly that...unless the ban starts upon his release of course.'"
Reminds me of when we were to taken to court from school, as public observers. Part educational, part warning I guess. The lawyer for one of the defendants noted that he (the defendant) hadn't been in trouble with the police for nearly three years, as mitigation. Which seemed pretty weak to me in itself. The judge or magistrate (school was a long time ago!) then pointed out that the defendant had been in prison for the first two of those years and the plea for leniency was rejected. I'm still curious to know whether the lawyer was just a bit hopeless or whether it was a tactic that sometimes worked.
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| Quote ="Karen"I found it hilarious that they banned him from driving for 2 years yet sent him down for nearly that...unless the ban starts upon his release of course.'"
That's correct - the ban will commence upon his release from prison.
The boy is a fool with a track record of criminality and violence. And as if we needed more evidence of his moronic mindset, his girlfriend is pregnant.
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| Quote And as if we needed more evidence of his moronic mindset, his girlfriend is pregnant.'"
Maybe that's good planning, no sleepless nights feeding babies, changing nappies etc Give the lad credit
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Reminds me of when we were to taken to court from school, as public observers. Part educational, part warning I guess. The lawyer for one of the defendants noted that he (the defendant) hadn't been in trouble with the police for nearly three years, as mitigation. Which seemed pretty weak to me in itself. The judge or magistrate (school was a long time ago!) then pointed out that the defendant had been in prison for the first two of those years and the plea for leniency was rejected. I'm still curious to know whether the lawyer was just a bit hopeless or whether it was a tactic that sometimes worked.'"
I'm more inclined to believe the former!
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| Quote ="Cronus"That's correct - the ban will commence upon his release from prison.'"
Fair enough then, I just wouldn't put anything past the British judicial system!
Such a shame, another good player who has thrown his career down the drain.
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| Quote ="Lord Byron"Do you reckon [url=https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/09/16/quick-extender-pro-review/everyone should get Quick Extender Pro[/url that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth?
On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed.'"
That's what my first thought was. The sentence doesn't seem to fit the offences at all. I wonder what was the reasoning behind it.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"must be mental health issues and we feel sorry for him, isn't that the thinking of some on here?
Utterly moronic, if this was in the US he'd be dead by now.'"
just to confirm, are you saying that its a good thing he'd be dead if he were in america?
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| I think Seth, its more regarding British police tactics to American cop tactics
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| Quote ="Willzay""he was Tasered six times but "kept rising to his feet to fight and charge at officers".
At one point, the former St Helens, Widnes and Wakefield hooker grabbed the Taser's wires after being stunned and removed them from his body.
He then grabbed the Taser in a "tug of war" with the officer, shouting: "You're getting it now!" while pointing it at the officer's face, police said."'"
Not much sympathy for him from me but have to give him some kudos he is one tough hombre !
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| Quote ="Lord Byron"Do you reckon that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth?
On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed.'"
"5...Moooooooovve"
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29""5...Moooooooovve"'"
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| Judging by the video footage, the coppers were not 10 yards away. Moore should and did get a penalty
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| Quote ="Seth"just to confirm, are you saying that its a good thing he'd be dead if he were in america?'"
That’s how I read his comment. knockersbumpMKII Is welcome to go live in the gun loving USA for me.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"That’s how I read his comment. knockersbumpMKII Is welcome to go live in the gun loving USA for me.'"
Give over, he said nothing of the sort, simply comparing how police in the US often utilise firearms to bring down a violent offender. And he's correct.
T'internet, full of folk desperate for a sniff of outrage.
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| excuse my ignorance but had he retired from rugby before this incident, i know he was only 30 or so but hadn't heard of him for a while
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| Was a regular for Bradford Bulls last season, but was released in November. Obviously due to the fact that he would be sent to prison.
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| Quote ="Seth"just to confirm, are you saying that its a good thing he'd be dead if he were in america?'"
No, he's not saying that, and you know he isn't.
What he's saying is that in America he wouldn't have had 6 chances of being tasered. He'd have been shot as soon as the police realised he was an animal and was going to be extremely challenging to arrest.
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| Quote ="Seth"just to confirm, are you saying that its a good thing he'd be dead if he were in america?'"
Which part of 'america'(sic) are you referring to, Chile, Brazil, Mexico, Canada, Honduras, Belize ...?
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| Quote ="the artist"excuse my ignorance but had he retired from rugby before this incident, i know he was only 30 or so but hadn't heard of him for a while'"
Scott Moore was still a player at Wakefield Trinity when the incident happened. He was then released in the off season with the trial pending and signed for Bradford. It took a long time for the trial to take place hence he was able to play a full season for Bradford.
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