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| Quote Alice's Phallus wrote
Celtic Crusaders do not have a very strong team this year. But they do have a good front row, a very talented scrum half, and a superb full back named Tony Duggan.
Those who have had the pleasure of watching Duggan in the National Leagues last year will remember some sensational attacking runs. The man has a tremendous side step, a good swerve, and great pace.
When one thinks about it, there were only two exciting full backs in Super League last year: Brent Webb and Clint Greenshields. Could Tony Duggan establish himself as number 3 full back in Super League?It is early days yet. But I think that we will all be talking about Tony Duggan's brilliant attacking performances throughout the season'" .
Er no, because he is behind Brett Hodgson as well
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| Quote ="Durham Giant".
Er no, because he is behind Brett Hodgson as well
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Hodgson does not have the array of attacking skills that Tony Duggan has.
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| Quote ="Cadoo!"I don't think he will be the "new star of super league" but he'll make a name for himself for sure. I was suprised no-one snapped him up earlier TBH. It was quite clear he was better than the national leagues.'"
There were whispers a few years ago that Wigan wanted him when they had their little "Full Back Crisis" but he turned them down, Apparently they couldn't offer him the same money as he was on in South Wales...
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| Quote ="Brew"There were whispers a few years ago that Wigan wanted him when they had their little "Full Back Crisis" but he turned them down, Apparently they couldn't offer him the same money as he was on in South Wales...'"
They are still slap bang in the middle of it
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| Quote ="Brew"There were whispers a few years ago that Wigan wanted him when they had their little "Full Back Crisis" but he turned them down, Apparently they couldn't offer him the same money as he was on in South Wales...'"
Source?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Source?'"
I cant remember, It was a few years ago. Though I think it was an Ex Oldham Player and Assistant Coach who still had a lot of connections in the game who told me. but can't be 100%
He'd have no reason to lie, and most of what he said (upcoming transfers and the like) usually turned out to be so.
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| & bear in mind wigan would have had to take the salary cap into consideration...
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| He looked fairly decent. I cant see him being anything really special though.
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"Hodgson does not have the array of attacking skills that Tony Duggan has.'"
I think it a little early yet to make statements like that. I mean his last 3 seasons have been 2 years in NL2 and 1 year in NL1 followed by 1 SL game. I think he looks a very good player, but then again Wellens looks class a lot of the time when he's in a winning team. Over the past 2 years Celtic have probably won 80% of their games. 1st game in the big time and he makes a serious blunder. There's no doubt he can run and comes into the attack very well, but if after 10 games he's made 10 blunders, people might start to say he's a luxury player a la Kevin Penny.
From what I've seen he probably will go very well, but as I said its far too early to tell. The moves that people have been talking about that didn't work against Leeds were working in NL and the amount of times Widnes were cut to shreads by Van Dijks inside balls was ridiculous. Very much wait and see IMO.
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| Tony Duggan's brilliance ---two tries in three minutes against Salford --- shows that he is every bit the great player that I have been saying.
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| Quote ="Brew"& bear in mind wigan would have had to take the salary cap into consideration...'"
If this post was an episode of QI, you would have just lost several points.....
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| He took that high ball well early doors
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| didn't realise he was 30, not exactly one for the future.
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| Quote ="Rictoria Cat"didn't realise he was 30, not exactly one for the future.'"
He will last this franchise series... and more than likely retire around the second batch in my eyes
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| Quote ="ap1717"He will last this franchise series... and more than likely retire around the second batch in my eyes'"
It is not extraordinary for a full back to last until age 33-34.
If Tony Duggan can avoid serious injury, he should be able to score 200 tries for the Crusaders before he retires. (He hit the 100 mark yesterday).
I fully expect him to be part of the Dream Team in at least one month this year. Most important thing for him is to make 100 Super League games for the Crusaders and have a fantastic testimonial in 2012 or whenever it comes around.
Bottom line: the boy has class.
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"It is not extraordinary for a full back to last until age 33-34.
If Tony Duggan can avoid serious injury, he should be able to score 200 tries for the Crusaders before he retires. (He hit the 100 mark yesterday).
I fully expect him to be part of the Dream Team in at least one month this year. Most important thing for him is to make 100 Super League games for the Crusaders and have a fantastic testimonial in 2012 or whenever it comes around.
Bottom line: the boy has class.'"
He would need approx 25 tries a season for the next four seasons - big statement I think.
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"It is not extraordinary for a full back to last until age 33-34.
If Tony Duggan can avoid serious injury, he should be able to score 200 tries for the Crusaders before he retires. (He hit the 100 mark yesterday).
I fully expect him to be part of the Dream Team in at least one month this year. Most important thing for him is to make 100 Super League games for the Crusaders and have a fantastic testimonial in 2012 or whenever it comes around.
Bottom line: the boy has class.'"
Are you joking ? He isn't that good and Celtic won't score that many tries, let alone Tony Duggan.
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"He would need approx 25 tries a season for the next four seasons - big statement I think.
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If he plays into 2013, at age 34, he will only need to score 20 a season.
Big ask for sure, but on yesterday's performance you would think that perhaps the Little Master could pull it off.
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| Makes too many mistakes.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Makes too many mistakes.'"
Not too many mistakes to score tries.
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"If he plays into 2013, at age 34, he will only need to score 20 a season.
Big ask for sure, but on yesterday's performance you would think that perhaps the Little Master could pull it off.'"
He will finish a lot closer to 100 tries than 200 I think!
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| i said he would be a player to watch in the thread about players from each team to watch
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"Not too many mistakes to score tries.'"
tries shmies.
More David James than Peter Shilton
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"tries shmies.
More David James than Peter Shilton'"
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"i said he would be a player to watch in the thread about players from each team to watch'"
Good for you..
This thread enables us to analyse Tony Duggan's strengths and weaknesses in depth.
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