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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Briers has been the model professional since Tony Smith took over but some people just think because he's got a record of being an idiot *cough drink driver *cough he's automatically still going to be a complete tool.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Briers has been the model professional since Tony Smith took over but some people just think because he's a lad from St Helens he's automatically going to be a complete tool.
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I've seen him with my own 2 eyes necking pints down at Thatto Heath's clubhouse less than 2 hours before the kickoff of a cup quarter final while very firmly under Smith's stewardship matey...
He may very well have spent all day Saturday drinking carrot juice in the buildup to the game, but given that he seems to like to get a couple down before 2pm then I think it's a fair bet there'll have been a few in him by 7pm too...
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| If only we'd had Lomax last night instead
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"If only we'd had Lomax last night instead
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We feel your pain mate, let it out.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Certainly is a St Helens he,s never detached himself from his grass roots. Coaching the young lads of Thatto Heath Crusaders as we speak.
Seem to remember a few years back, Cunningham coaching a young Haydock team and Briers getting the upper hand with his young Thatto Heath team.'"
Correct! He's at thatto every week when possible a d certainly is a saints lad. I also think he's been doing a lee briers coaching school for kids.
Everyone knows lee likes a drink and he did hammer the booze when he had a personal tragedy to deal with it but by no means is not a true pro.
Saints legend Sean Long liked a fe beers as well but nothing said about that.
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| Fantastic player who would add something to any team in the world on his good days
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Fantastic who would add something to any team in the world on his good days'"
The problem is that his good days very rarely coincide with days in which he's playing in a high pressure match. He went missing again for me last night, he just isn't a big game player.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The problem is that his good days very rarely coincide with days in which he's playing in a high pressure match. He went missing again for me last night, he just isn't a big game player.'"
That's why I said on his good days but to be honest he's done ok in the last few cc finals
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"Correct! He's at thatto every week when possible a d certainly is a saints lad. I also think he's been doing a lee briers coaching school for kids.
Everyone knows lee likes a drink and he did hammer the booze when he had a personal tragedy to deal with it but by no means is not a true pro.
Saints legend Sean Long liked a fe beers as well but nothing said about that.'"
Exactly, Long and Tommy Martyn did not live the lifestyle of teetotal monks did they?
The way people make out Briers to be like some sort of Gazza /George Best figure that gets wasted every week, how come he's kept his fitness and form for so long into his career? You don't do what he has done at his age, without being a great pro.
Of course I could be wrong and maybe Briers just looks good because he's carried by a world class side?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"That's why I said on his good days but to be honest he's done ok in the last few cc finals'"
He has, but never really taken any of those games by the scruff of the neck as it were.
Big clubs that are expected to challenge need players that can step up to the plate in big matches, we had a number of players that could do it in the past, Leeds have 3 or 4 now. IMO had Wire had a big game player instead of him over the last few years they'd have won more.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Exactly, Long and Tommy Martyn did not live the lifestyle of teetotal monks did they?
The way people make out Briers to be like some sort of Gazza /George Best figure that gets wasted every week, how come he's kept his fitness and form for so long into his career? You don't do what he has done at his age, without being a great pro.
Of course I could be wrong and maybe Briers just looks good because he's carried by a world class side?'"
From what I've been told (which you can take with a pinch of salt if you like, but I've no reason to disbelieve it) he changed his attitude when he realised Smith wasn't going to take any of his crap unlike Cullen.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Exactly, Long and Tommy Martyn did not live the lifestyle of teetotal monks did they?
The way people make out Briers to be like some sort of Gazza /George Best figure that gets wasted every week, how come he's kept his fitness and form for so long into his career? You don't do what he has done at his age, without being a great pro.
Of course I could be wrong and maybe Briers just looks good because he's carried by a world class side?'"
Lee briers has been a fantastic player and still is, he's certainly not being carried by a world class side because your not one.
Lee Briers is the last of the old style scrum half. He's a player wiry a rugby brain and skill. Scrum halves are not like that anyone.
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| Briers may well be the most overrated player in Super League history. Can be great occasionally but so can Jarrod Sammut.
EDIT: Danny Brough is probably more overrated now, but not over the course of fifteen years.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Briers may well be the most overrated player in Super League history. Can be great occasionally but so can Jarrod Sammut.
EDIT: Danny Brough is probably more overrated now, but not over the course of fifteen years.'"
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The problem is that his good days very rarely coincide with days in which he's playing in a match. .'"
Edited for accuracy
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| Smith worked wonders harnessing Briers natural ability.
He could easily be playing NL or have retired by now - especially with the Barrow rumours at the start of Tony Smiths reign.
I always remember sitting in wires reception for a meeting at Halliwell jones - pretty sure it was the day after Hull KR beat them in the cup when they were still in the NL.
Company I worked for did a bit with wire then.
A number of players strolled in late for Cullens extra training session whilst I was waiting. I then had the meeting and on the way out Briers finally strolled in and the receptionist said something like Late again Lee and he chuckled like a naughty schoolboy.
I don't think he is quite up there and in many ways his value to wire is like Tommy Martyns to Saints, but amplified in the current standard of halfbacks in SL and performances at his age its a fantastic swansong.
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| I like Lee Briers, he's one of the few characters in our game. Has been a great servant for the Wire, but it's now time for them to find a quality replacement (and partner for the excellent Richie Myler).
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"He has, but never really taken any of those games by the scruff of the neck as it were.
Big clubs that are expected to challenge need players that can step up to the plate in big matches, we had a number of players that could do it in the past, Leeds have 3 or 4 now. IMO had Wire had a big game player instead of him over the last few years they'd have won more.'"
Absolute joke of a post. 2010 Lance Todd Trophy winner.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Absolute joke of a post. 2010 Lance Todd Trophy winner.'"
One game that was a walk over, how long has he been playing? What did he do in the play offs that year when the pressure was on and the games were tighter?
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| The Welsh team missed Briers today I thought. Had Briers been playing, there may have been a few more scoring chances for the Welsh (although to be fair they do need a bit more grunt up front).
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"One game that was a walk over, how long has he been playing? What did he do in the play offs that year when the pressure was on and the games were tighter?'"
It certainly wasn't a walkover. Have a look at the bigger picture and think about some of the teams he played in prior to August 2009.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"It certainly wasn't a walkover. Have a look at the bigger picture and think about some of the teams he played in prior to August 2009.'"
The bigger picture is that he's just not a top line player. He's never been the man to pull you out of a hole, good teams or bad.
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| Briers is exactly what we needed last season. He'd have made the difference for us. A kicking game, some composure close to the opposition line and an old head to steer the ship.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The bigger picture is that he's just not a top line player. He's never been the man to pull you out of a hole, good teams or bad.'"
Exactly.
He should play for Wales in the World Cup though, would improve them no end going off their showing last week.
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