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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Penalty count was extremely low. Mr T hardly gave any penalties and what he gave were correct. He let the game flow - as he has done all season.
I'm sure that you lot are correct when saying that we were offside quite a lot. I'm also convinced that your team were far from angels and were also offside. However, being seated in the £20dump I have no way of telling.
Our holding down waas shorter than most teams - and KR held down just as long/short.
The tackling issue has been all the way to Mr Cummings. Even Boots & All has done a feature on it. Nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing.
From what I have seen of Mr Thaler this season [twice before today he treated us no different to the opposition, & the opposition no different to us. He lets the game flow - none of your stop/start Mr Ganson stuff - ignores the 'minor' offences but pulls up the 'major' ones.
He is by far the best referee I've seen for a long time.'"
No wonder you think that. Personally I thought he was totally inadequate, he ruined what should have been a good game by his complete inability or interest to police the offside rule.
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| Quote ="meast"if thats the case then im sure thaler has a case to answer but seriously the east stand appealed for everything yesterday to try and help them out
was it dobson who kicked a penalty straight into our hands? i didnt hear much complaining about that or the dropped balls by your players what contributed to our win'"
Our players were knackered from a tough game on the Friday night and your players being consistantly offside didn't help their energy levels much. Can't fault your boys for exploiting that though.
Thaler was p*ss poor, Rovers were knackered, Huddersfield were good. That's about it.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Our players were knackered from a tough game on the Friday night'"
Not according to Justin after that game and before the Hudds game you weren't. In fact he was bragging about how well rested you were.
Not to mention all the Rovers fans who claimed that Friday's win was easy.
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| Quote ="Kosh"
Not to mention all the Rovers fans who claimed that Friday's win was easy.
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It was, in fact it always is.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well fair play for saying that at least. However Morgan's rant wasn't very clever. He is experienced enough to know about the poor standard of refereeing and how best to raise concerns.'" Have you thought that JM may have already done this in the past and got the usual reaction of the referee's (e.g 'lets look the other way and protect our own' and let's be honest here they do have previous).
IF that is the case what else is JM supposed to do?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.'"
I've seen one of Stuart Cummins "explanations" about an event at Catalans in 2007 to know he's simply not fit for purpose of his role - he is absolutely deplorable and in that context, Justin Morgan was right, especially when there is a player safety element involved with "referring" by Thaler.
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| So, when Mr Morgan talks about Mr Thaler missing forward passes, I can now agree.
I've just watched SLTV [[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=626:3nlwgn88HKR v Giants tries[/url and Mr Morgan must be talking about the one leading to your first try.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"So, when Mr Morgan talks about Mr Thaler missing forward passes, I can now agree.
I've just watched SLTV [[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=626HKR v Giants tries[/url and Mr Morgan must be talking about the one leading to your first try.'"
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How far forward was that beauty
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"So, when Mr Morgan talks about Mr Thaler missing forward passes, I can now agree.
I've just watched SLTV [[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=626HKR v Giants tries[/url and Mr Morgan must be talking about the one leading to your first try.'"
pm me and i will be more than happy to post you a copy of the game, along with mr thaler and mr cummings.
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| Quote ="Gahan"2nd try Ivor
How far forward was that beauty
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What are you saying? Thaler missed a forward pass well I never
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| Quote ="red al"pm me and =redi will be more than happy to post you a copy of the game along with mr thaler and mr cummings.
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Thaler needs posting a lot further away than Huddersfield
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| Instead of blameing the Officials why dont you blame the people who are to blame,your players and Coaches.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Instead of blameing the Officials why dont you blame the people who are to blame,your players and Coaches.
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Why don't you learn how to read before you post? Just a suggestion...
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Why don't you learn how to read before you post? Just a suggestion...'"
He could learn to spell as well
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| anyone got a copy of the game then cos i wanna see what rovers fans were bleating about for 74 minutes before they went home
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"Its nowt to do with balls, this outburst (reminiscent of his post-match reaction at Whitehaven in 2006) does him no credit whatsoever. There is a time & a place for these statements, and its not in front of the press.
It just looks like sour grapes, and lumps him with Phil Brown in the bad loser stakes.'"
It nothing to do with sour grapes as you have commented above. In over a 42 years of watching rugby league i have witnessed some bad as well as good referees, they have a tough job and you expect them to make mistakes now and then, just like anyone else they are only human, but i have to say this guy Thaler is, in my opinion one of the worst on a consistent basis.
If a person makes a mistake in their job of work they would try to do better next time and make sure it did not happen again, if they continued to make mistakes, they would be given a warning and and eventualy dimissed or moved to a lesser position, why should referees be any differnt?.
Justin Morgan has continualy gone through the right channels in the past when making a complaint, as have many other coaches,but more often than not, they come up against a brick wall and usualy nothing happens to the official in question.
Somebody had to have the guts to openly question a referees performance at some point, otherwise it will be just like groundhog day, we will just keep on going over the same ground time and time again,making official complaints but, them falling on deaf ears at Red Hall.
Just for your information, Justin morgan has gone on record as saying how well most of the referees have improved this season and has aplauded them on many occasion. However like i have already hinted, imo one or two of the current SL referees are not up to Super league standard and its about time the RFL had the guts to listen to the coaches and the fans concerns regarding these particular referees and their under par performances, it can only benifit the game as a spectacle in the future and at the end of the day,thats all we all want, a good game of rugby league with a competent consistent style of refereeing. Is it to much to ask the RFL?
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| Its sour grapes you lost we won the reff was ok ,your coach will be fined and rightly so, because what he should have done was to rant at the players for loosing and not look for excusess ie lets blame the reff.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Its sour grapes you lost we won the reff was ok ,your coach will be fined and rightly so, because what he should have done was to rant at the players for loosing and not look for excusess ie lets blame the reff.'"
Well said BOYD2
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| Quote ="BOYD2"And 16 others
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Do you find the grapple tackle an effective tackle?
I wondered after seeing the highlights of Hudds/Celtic on boots n all when Lupton went over for Celtics last try he had a hudds player literally hanging round his neck
And they wonder why they are complained about
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| Dont know kid never done one ,but what we have done is beat all these teams fair and square,but small minded people like your coach and a few others detract from fact that they were beaten by a better ,fitter, and stronger team so move on ,carnt wait till you come to the pharm for another smashing.
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