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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Ganson's performance in the derby on friday was hardly stop start, think the only penalty rovers got was a techinical one from the kick off going out on the full. And hull got five I think.'"
Maybe that could be down to Hull being very disciplined on Friday??
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| Didn't Morgan say last season that he has not time for people who criticised the refs in public. The he goes on a real cry baby rant about Thaler
Just like Cooke/Rea all over again.
Mr double standards strikes again.
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| Is it just me or are the refs getting worse?
Mr Alibert was again shocking at Saints yesterday, not just in the decisions that went against us but also the decisions that went for us. I literally dont think he knows the rules.
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| Well done Justin for having the balls to say something
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Is it just me or are the refs getting worse?
Mr Alibert was again shocking at Saints yesterday, not just in the decisions that went against us but also the decisions that went for us. I literally dont think he knows the rules.'"
The game is progressing fast but refs seem to be stuck in a time warp.
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| Quote ="psycho"Well done Justin for having the balls to say something
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Its nowt to do with balls, this outburst (reminiscent of his post-match reaction at Whitehaven in 2006) does him no credit whatsoever. There is a time & a place for these statements, and its not in front of the press.
It just looks like sour grapes, and lumps him with Phil Brown in the bad loser stakes.
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"Its nowt to do with balls, this outburst (reminiscent of his post-match reaction at Whitehaven in 2006) does him no credit whatsoever. There is a time & a place for these statements, and its not in front of the press.
It just looks like sour grapes, and lumps him with Phil Brown in the bad loser stakes.'"
No it doesn't, this isn't a regular occurance from Justin and shows that Thaler was an absolute disgrace
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No it doesn't, this isn't a regular occurance from Justin and shows that Thaler was an absolute disgrace'"
TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.'"
Unfortunately these 'channels' rarely have any effect at all, the RFL always backs referee's even when it blatantly obvious they have performed poorly or made a major error. I can understand it iffrustrations get the better as they did yesterday, which was a shocking performance by the referee.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.'"
Of course it includes the press, If he was out there every other week like Phil Brown his words would have no creedance but he isn't. Justin has decided to highlight this pathetic refereeing performance because obviously using the correct channels against this particular referee doesn't work.
Hopefully now Cummings will be forced to publically answer Justins claims.
Just a shame Justin didn't publically decide to slate the schoolboy errors and poor performances of the players to such an extent
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.'"
Wasnt it Daniel Anderson who continually complained about a particular referee and in the end the RFL decided to never appoint this ref for any Saints game?
Maybe that was in Justins thinking.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Of course it includes the press, If he was out there every other week like Phil Brown his words would have no creedance but he isn't. Justin has decided to highlight this pathetic refereeing performance because obviously using the correct channels against this particular referee doesn't work.
Hopefully now Cummings will be forced to publically answer Justins claims.
Just a shame Justin didn't publically decide to slate the schoolboy errors and poor performances of the players to such an extent'"
Don't agree.
Using the press to air grievances towards match officials is unprofessional. I like Morgan he is an astute coach and very articulate, but his post match rant at Thaler was poor.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Wasnt it Daniel Anderson who continually complained about a particular referee and in the end the RFL decided to never appoint this ref for any Saints game?
Maybe that was in Justins thinking.'"
Might work for Saints, but I expect a more than average number of our games given to Thaler for the rest of the season.
He is a poor referee, even on the televised games I have watched him in. I did notice one thing yesterday about him, when the fans were getting 'irate' enough for a tannoy announcement to be made, he looked over and grinned, a more mature and professioinal referee would not have reacted in any way at all. Maybe he has an ego and needs to be the centre of attention, in which case a public demotion to the National Leagues might curb it a bit.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Don't agree.
Using the press to air grievances towards match officials is unprofessional. I like Morgan he is an astute coach and very articulate, but his post match rant at Thaler was poor.'"
............but accurate.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"
Using the press to air grievances towards match officials is unprofessional.'"
I agree if it is a regular occurance however it isn't
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I agree if it is a regular occurance however it isn't'"
Once is too much imo.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Once is too much imo.'"
You seem to be quite content to have poor standards of refereeing. If the RFL don't act this is what happens through frustration.
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| Quote ="rover49"You seem to be quite content to have poor standards of refereeing. If the RFL don't act this is what happens through frustration.'"
Not at all.
Referees will always make mistakes.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Not at all.
Referees will always make mistakes.'"
Agreed, we have all fell foul of poor decisions as well as been the beneficiaries of them, but my point about yesterday is that it was his LACK of decisions that made it a poor performance, its all well and good to have a game 'flow' but if that means you totally ignore the rules, then we could save money and not bother having officials at all. I am a great believer in letting the game settle and the ref to give a few warnings, but not to totally ignore rules altogether, which seemed the case yesterday.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"icon_lol.gif
You lost, get over it. Your coach's diatribe was embarrassing. He's nearly as bad as you.'"
You sir are an idiot, its one thing to accept you were beaten by the better side on the day, but to have the defeat compounded by a totaly inept and incompetent display by a referee who imo should be demoted to the lower leagues, as he simply is not up to super league standard.
Honestly speaking, he is in my top ten worst referees in 41 years of watching rugby league.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"You sir are an idiot, its one thing to accept you were beaten by the better side on the day, but to have the defeat compounded by a totaly inept and incompetent display by a referee who imo should be demoted to the lower leagues, as he simply is not up to super league standard.
Honestly speaking, he is in my top ten worst referees in 41 years of watching rugby league.
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Stan Wall apart, Thaler is the worst.
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| Quote ="rover49"[i'the worst display of officiating I have seen in 20 yrs'[/i
Not my words, but the ones from a qualified referee stood near us.
The policing of the Hudds defensive line was at best incompetent, they were offside at 90% of all the plays, so much that Crabtree managed to get to the first receiver as he caugt the ball, which makes him quicker than Usain Bolt.
I also estimate at least 20 forward passes, including two in the build up to Wilds try, how they were missed was unbelieveable. JM said on Humberside that the officiating was diabolical, I personally thought it was so biased it was bordering on cheating by Thaler.
Why the hell was Robinson not sent off for his professional fould on Cooke, we have seen a minimum of sin-binning for this most of the time.
Thaler is a disgrace, I hope the club put in a strong protest to the RFL, he is also a coward, he left the field after shaking the hands of the some Hudds players and never attempted to do the same for any Rovers player.'"
very poor that.mayeb he didnt shake hands with any rovers players cos they had all disappeared down the tunnel?
i can honestly say it became tiresome after about 30 minutes of listening to the rovers fans boo, scream and wail at everything!
surely if we were breaking the rules and throwing 20 forward passes( ) then a professional referee would penalise us for it?
i hope your club does put in a complaint because then maybe it will stop any referee in future allowing the home fans to try and influence his decisions
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| I'd guess JM has aired the greivances of the vast majority of the fans at Craven Park yesterday. I know from speaking to a couple of the players their opinion of his performance and perhaps the referee controller could see a video of the match.....and drop Thaler from officiating till he decided to implement the rules.
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| Quote ="meast"very poor that.mayeb he didnt shake hands with any rovers players cos they had all disappeared down the tunnel?
i can honestly say it became tiresome after about 30 minutes of listening to the rovers fans boo, scream and wail at everything!
surely if we were breaking the rules and throwing 20 forward passes(
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i hope your club does put in a complaint because then maybe it will stop any referee in future allowing the home fans to try and influence his decisions'"
Actually they were all stood behind the goal line waiting for the kick, he was stood next to the kicker and immediately shook hands with Giants players and did not wait for the Rovers players to come over before he 'fled'
Unsportsmanlike to say the least.
Stood where I was I would say 20 was conservative, unless they have changed the rules recently. We all know when a crowd is trying it on, but believe me it was way past that, there were people stood near me who usually are quite placid and they were spitting feathers at some of the things he let go.
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| Quote ="rover49"Actually they were all stood behind the goal line waiting for the kick, he was stood next to the kicker and immediately shook hands with Giants players and did not wait for the Rovers players to come over before he 'fled'
Unsportsmanlike to say the least.
Stood where I was I would say 20 was conservative, unless they have changed the rules recently. We all know when a crowd is trying it on, but believe me it was way past that, there were people stood near me who usually are quite placid and they were spitting feathers at some of the things he let go.'"
if thats the case then im sure thaler has a case to answer but seriously the east stand appealed for everything yesterday to try and help them out
was it dobson who kicked a penalty straight into our hands? i didnt hear much complaining about that or the dropped balls by your players what contributed to our win
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