Their academy production line is an absolute joke compared with everyone else aside from Leigh (who have only just gained an academy license, which isn't their fault).

The fact IMG seemingly don't care about youth development either shows where the game is at. If more clubs brought through their youth we'd all have a bigger player pool which would lead to more teams in super league and the end of stupid loop fixtures.

we're two years in to the new road-map mate, we didnt give the acdemy a look in pre BOD, it takes time and picking up those sort of players allows depth, especially with the new rules about limited playing time, agreed it isnt a sustainable model and thats why its being addressed so much within the club

Surely you'd be better off giving Gorman a chance over someone like Wynne or Kershaw if you were that serious?

my honest opinion is that the crop we have at the moment just arent good enough to be competing for a spot in a top 4/2 squad at the moment, the stakes are high, they would really have to be special to get in the current team, wynne had something at FC but his tantrums masked that, hes 23 local lad and wont make any dent in the cap, as is jack brown

i want to see the academy thrive more than anybody, trust me

, with the 3G, new coaching staff, money injection into it, we'll hopefully to see it bear fruits later on, our scholars beat every team last year so thats a start and hopefully the next good batch

I see your point, but there's no way the likes of Kershaw and Wynne are top players, not convinced either are good enough for SL.

dont disagree, they arent ready yet, but with the limited playing rules and also the toll summer games/cc cups games take they are perfect covers

both young players with plenty of scope to push on

Looks like the January sales are about to start. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-30574633

Looks like the January sales are about to start. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-30574633

apart from Salford, it looks like all the other 11 sl clubs are financially stable and don't need to sell players unless a club offers stupid money, going to be difficult to recruit british born players if clubs dont need to sell anymore.

When have clubs ever really sold players in the modern era anyways? It’s quite rare, I know Salford sold Ackers and Croft last year but that was again because of financial difficulties. You only get one high profile sale of a player every few seasons at best. 20 odd years ago maybe was more common when the Sky money was first introduced, the likes of Bradford and Saints buying Vaikona and Sculthorpe etc but hardly seems to happen nowadays.

We bought Sneyd for a substantial fee, again that was rare though and was 10 years ago, and I’m sure at the time Salford were throwing money about themselves under Koukash they just didn’t rate him rather then having to sell him.

And now Ruan, honestly seems Rovers have no interest in youth development or Peters isn't bothered, wants to gamble on short term success.

Kick in the teeth for Tennison and Fishwick thought they were next off the rovers conveyor belt

I'd make an offer for Tennison, he'd get a few games next year here.

I know right, imagine picking up young, cheap British players that could turn out to be absolute gems in the game at the detriment of playing academy players who obviously just are not ready or good enough? bonkers!

It seems to get you all very wound up on here about our youth set up, lets see how you go in a couple of years when you can actually afford decent players and how many youth come through for you, you have a history of bigging up young players to be future superstars and many of them simply fall from grace very early.

Whose wound up, it sounds like you, you early post on here, but are straight in this post.

We could have easily signed Ruan and Kershaw, but we'd rather play Staveley and Martin, I'd bet these two both go on to be better players than those two.

Kershaw will be 26 next season, thats hardly young and I'd doubt he will be that cheap.

I do agree we have talked up our academy in the past, and these players play at international level amd our youth sides are regularly top 4, but we have been poor developing them into SL players, something I think the club knew and it's not surprising when you look at the staff we have employed the last few years.

We’re not talking about gems though. We’re talking about Richardson, Kershaw and the God awful Ruan.

If you look at it the other way though we deemed the likes of Lewis, Adbull, Litten and Hadley ‘not good enough’ when we had a semi decent side, to our detriment long term. FWIW I’m not sure Rovers will ever have to produce loads of players, McNichol has deep enough pockets but your current side only has a small window to win something, you’ll have a big rebuild at some point soon you’ll have to get right. We know that from experience.

It’s more about stretching the salary cap, there’s a new rule been introduced for players under a certain age with no club if you sign them then their wage doesn’t count so we now can stretch the £2.1m across 24 players instead of 25, small margins i know but it’s risk free, he seemed to show a lot of promise at Doncaster and went to Leeds and will of been under a poor coaching set up at them and i dare say yourselves last year,
With Fishwick and Tennison it alters nothing they have to go play well in the championship on loan or duel reg but effectively could and probably are infront of Ruan in the pecking order it just means we can stretch a extra 30-40k out the cap

Again Dave read my previous post, our youth set up roadmap has started to get the respect/attention it deserves in the past 2 years, it takes time

Ruan brown wynne all young projects

Chamberlain Hardaker oggy holmes all players that are at the end of their careers

There’s levels to this game, no bite here but you can’t be throwing shade at these types of signings the 3 above wouldn’t even be good enough to carry our water bottles on to the pitch

Sorry for the insult but you’ve turned a genuine conversation into a goading match against our signings so if you wanna play top trumps I’ll play all day long, there isn’t one player in your setup that gets close to our starting 17 at the moment and that’s a fact potentially ese ese but he’d need a tougher pre season and fitness levels aren’t good enough

If they both train harder than Ruan then hopefully they will be next off the conveyor, who knows.

That’s the whole point of the recruitment though. Hull have signed players of a certain age and experience because they want to tap into their experience, but yet not block the pathways of players coming through.

Must be encouraging for young players at Hull knowing the club sees them as the future foundations of the team.

And we’ve got a batch after the next one coming through as well (Kemp twins, etc.)

HKR have put everything into recent recruitment cycles and rolled the dice. The window to win something will be limited. Lewis potentially leaving soon, and a recruitment drive that reminds me of Hulls in 2018.

We’ve been snookered by hull for years all the best young players in the city have always choose FC over us there’s no getting away from that but with Lewis and the investment into youth set up the 3G pitch and facilities that are following plus we now have Netherton Lovegrove Webster SKD and Hiku all on coaching set up for academy they’re trying to make it more fashionable for kids to sign for us over you

You’re edging your bet towards ‘throw money at it and hope it works’

I’m sorry to let you down but we aren’t having a short stint at the top table we are building everything to stay there long term, the plans surrounding craven park will change the club forever and make it sustainable and yes dare I say it profitable which will enhance every aspect of the club this isn’t jsut a castleford 2017 or a hull 2016 we’re everything has come together in the first team

The plans across the board are all to aid the first team, the recruitment has been spot on I agree but the flash in the pan theory has been debunked already as we’ve finished 4th 2nd and currently predicted to finish top 2 again

Young lads flocked to hull because kr didn’t have a sniff of what you had, that has long gone, the monopoly with the youth all wanting to go to hull is changing by the minute

We've heard all this crap for the last 10 years nothings changed we've still won trophies and rovers haven't.

rovers throwing money at the amateur game locally, bringing in coaches, buying kit etc. to try and get them all sending their players to rovers rather than us. We need to go on a charm offensive too with our hugely wealthy owners