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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"I remember them voting to end our club and then laughing as we went out of business. If they stay up then we'll take the easy points. If they go down then I will enjoy every minute of their thoroughly deserved suffering.
(Can people knock using the r-word on the head please. And I don't mean "Rovers".)'"
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| =#FF0000OK Folks - for the record the use of the word retard is against the AUP and can result in an instant ban. Please knock it off.
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| We do need to reduce the number of derbies, but when we do get the balance right, derbies between Hull and Hull KR draw big crowds and can be great entertainment. Further, Hull KR going down is not good for the city of Hull.
So as much as I'd probably enjoy the week or so winding them up, no, I don't want them to go down.
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| Surprised a Mod has been around to notice it. About time some regular posters did it instead, to keep on top of everything.
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| Quote ="Bal"We do need to reduce the number of derbies, but when we do get the balance right, derbies between Hull and Hull KR draw big crowds and can be great entertainment. Further, Hull KR going down is not good for the city of Hull.
So as much as I'd probably enjoy the week or so winding them up, no, I don't want them to go down.'"
Not bothered what happens to Rovers either way. Don't get all the 'its not good for Hull FC, RL or the City if they go down' talk.
Will it really matter that much to us as a club financially? Probably not in the grand scheme of things re advertising and sponsorship plus hopefully the increase in regular match day attendances after the season we have had this year.
The only issue I could see is the affect it would have on the Joint Academy set up.
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| Quote ="Chris71"
The only issue I could see is the affect it would have on the Joint Academy set up.'"
Hopefully in a positive way in that we bin off the dobbins. I must be another off tinkerbell's word that can't be used because for me the dobbins and their grubby, ambulance chasing chairman can't sink low enough and they would be missed only in the sense that an unpleasant infection is.
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| We've had enough Derby games in the last three seasons to last us for the next six at least. They've become undervalued and boring as reflected in the attendances for them. One build up is the same as the next is the same as the next. So if our neighbours do happen to step over the cliff then not to worry.
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| Quote ="Kosh"=#FF0000OK Folks - for the record the use of the word retard is against the AUP and can result in an instant ban. Please knock it off.'"
This - I've removed all references so as requested by others, can we just stop? Thanks.
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| Now I don't really want the RS to go down, but I think I could live with it OK.
I might miss the Derby games a tad, especially if we only had only 2 meetings a season. But we don't, we have 4, and that's ruined the whole thing.
Lest we forget, there was a time we needed our neighbours to vote in favour of our very existence, it could have been life or death for us.
.....and they looked the other way. Bad Show
So what go's around comes around I say, and anyway, should the worst happen for our dear neighbours,
can you imagine the fun ? I love a good Turkey Shoot.
Give 'em 6 years or so and they'll be back, whooping and crowing, like they've just "walked out of the shower".
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| Quote ="Uppo58"
Lest we forget, there was a time we needed our neighbours to vote in favour of our very existence, it could have been life or death for us.
.....and they looked the other way. Bad Show
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I wouldn't put that down as altruistic by any stretch. However, the historical context is important. SL had broken away as a separate entity, taking the money and running, as it were. It really wasn't reasonable to then ask the Northern Ford Premiership to pick up SL's broken clubs for the 'good of the RL family'. Sheffield were initially denied a placed in the 2000 NFP, until Bramley dropped out, iirc, so it was wider than just a Rovers-Hull spat.
In addition, it isn't like Hull FC chairman Tim Wilby hadn't recently been out to euthanize Rovers in their hour of need.
Hull fans don't like Rovers - that is as it should be. But the retcon moralizing and lessons in humility on offer here recently, while unintentionally hilarious, suggests something of a self awareness deficit. Which you'd never get from Rovers fans - no siree.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I wouldn't put that down as altruistic by any stretch. However, the historical context is important. SL had broken away as a separate entity, taking the money and running, as it were. It really wasn't reasonable to then ask the Northern Ford Premiership to pick up SL's broken clubs for the 'good of the RL family'. Sheffield were initially denied a placed in the 2000 NFP, until Bramley dropped out, iirc, so it was wider than just a Rovers-Hull spat.
In addition, it isn't like Hull FC chairman Tim Wilby hadn't recently been out to euthanize Rovers in their hour of need.
Hull fans don't like Rovers - that is as it should be. But the retcon moralizing and lessons in humility on offer here recently, while unintentionally hilarious, suggests something of a self awareness deficit. [size=200Which you'd never get from Rovers fans - no siree. [/sizeeusa_whistle.gif'"
Mild Rover - the master of irony!!
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| Every single Rovers fan would be absolutely p155ing themselves if we was in their position and would all probably buy Salford shirts and cheer them on. They would revel in it for years (they have history of this of course) and would be dancing in the streets if we got relegated.
Me on the other hand would chuckle if the dreaded happened and they went down but id soon forget about it - for me Leeds are the team who are our greatest rivals and the ones im more bothered about
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So relegation in all sport should now be got rid of because of players potential mental health problems due to the stress of relegation?
Not aiming this at you Wilf but what a load of ! What next no finals in case the losing team gets upset? Or maybe no games in case anyone loses? Seriously wtf!!!!
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So relegation in all sport should now be got rid of because of players potential mental health problems due to the stress of relegation?
Not aiming this at you Wilf but what a load of ! What next no finals in case the losing team gets upset? Or maybe no games in case anyone loses? Seriously wtf!!!!
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He's a bonehead. Sensationalism
1) When Rovers or Salford go down and lose the £1m central funding, they'll either have to cut their cloth accordingly or their chairman will bankroll the deficit. If it's the former, the better (more expensive) players will likely leave and find other clubs. The crap players (cheap), like Cockayne will likely be kept on.
2) A RL players career is not for life. Every player knows their playing career could potentially end suddenly, and at best mid to late 30's. Players should be planning for it, ensuring they're trained/educated or have business interests to ensure they're not screwed once their playing days are over.
3) They all know the league structure and that this could potentially happen for nearly two years.
4) When Cas got relegated in 2006, did he not celebrate Rovers' promotion?
5) Perform better.
6) Don't be naïve enough to buy into get rich quick pyramid schemes.
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He's a bonehead. Sensationalism
1) When Rovers or Salford go down and lose the £1m central funding, they'll either have to cut their cloth accordingly or their chairman will bankroll the deficit. If it's the former, the better (more expensive) players will likely leave and find other clubs. The crap players (cheap), like Cockayne will likely be kept on.
2) A RL players career is not for life. Every player knows their playing career could potentially end suddenly, and at best mid to late 30's. Players should be planning for it, ensuring they're trained/educated or have business interests to ensure they're not screwed once their playing days are over.
3) They all know the league structure and that this could potentially happen for nearly two years.
4) When Cas got relegated in 2006, did he not celebrate Rovers' promotion?
5) Perform better.
6) Don't be naïve enough to buy into get rich quick pyramid schemes.
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| If he'd been d to do anything other than watch when Stevie Michaels waltzed round him on Good Friday maybe that would have helped.
Seriously though, how is this any different to relegation coming down to the last game of a season? He's not thought this through. Surprising, that.
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| If Hull FC were in that particular game would C***head be so understanding?
Or would he giving big licks on Twitter?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If he'd been d to do anything other than watch when Stevie Michaels waltzed round him on Good Friday maybe that would have helped.
Seriously though, how is this any different to relegation coming down to the last game of a season? He's not thought this through. Surprising, that.'"
If I recall, I thought our Steve ran straight through the hapless tackler.
Nice to see him so concerned about Mental Health issues/worried about his own livelihood* (*delete as applicable). So much nicer than beating the **** out of a defenceless person in the street.
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| I just found it interesting as I say that he had, all of a sudden, become an expert on mental illness!
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| Quote ="DGM"He's a bonehead. Sensationalism
1) When Rovers or Salford go down and lose the £1m central funding, they'll either have to cut their cloth accordingly or their chairman will bankroll the deficit. If it's the former, the better (more expensive) players will likely leave and find other clubs. The crap players (cheap), like Cockayne will likely be kept on.
2) A RL players career is not for life. Every player knows their playing career could potentially end suddenly, and at best mid to late 30's. Players should be planning for it, ensuring they're trained/educated or have business interests to ensure they're not screwed once their playing days are over.
3) They all know the league structure and that this could potentially happen for nearly two years.
4) When Cas got relegated in 2006, did he not celebrate Rovers' promotion?
5) Perform better.
6) Don't be naïve enough to buy into get rich quick pyramid schemes.'" 7) sell our identity and merge with newcastle
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| People lose their jobs every day and have to get on with life. As has been said, most of the players will stay where they are, they may have to take a pay cut but that's teh price of being shiit all season.
Anyway, I thought cockayne was going to be a herbal life millionaire?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"People lose their jobs every day and have to get on with life. As has been said, most of the players will stay where they are, they may have to take a pay cut but that's teh price of being shiit all season.
Anyway, I thought cockayne was going to be a herbal life millionaire?'"
I like this image. I imagine Ben to be the one on the bottom row, far right corner. Sat there at all the meetings, taking it all in, waving his credit card at the person giving the presentation. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer is he.
The funny thing is, he didn't learn from his experience with Herbalife and quickly jumped straight into another pyramid scheme Oregano Gold. They even have an imagine of a pyramid on their site to explain how it works, but with "you" at the top of that pyramid, not one of the idiots at the bottom.
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I like this image. I imagine Ben to be the one on the bottom row, far right corner. Sat there at all the meetings, taking it all in, waving his credit card at the person giving the presentation. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer is he.
The funny thing is, he didn't learn from his experience with Herbalife and quickly jumped straight into another pyramid scheme Oregano Gold. They even have an imagine of a pyramid on their site to explain how it works, but with "you" at the top of that pyramid, not one of the idiots at the bottom.
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He wouldn't have liked mixing with all them [iblacks[/i at the bottom of that Herbalife chart.
Oh how he strove for the top tiers of that pyramid.
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| Despite what he says it's part and parcel of being a professional sportsman. It has to be remembered though that it's not only the players whose livelihood is effected. I was at the game on Saturday and spoke to some of the office staff and they were worried that relegation would inevitably mean cutbacks and are very concerned about their jobs.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Despite what he says it's part and parcel of being a professional sportsman. It has to be remembered though that it's not only the players whose livelihood is effected. I was at the game on Saturday and spoke to some of the office staff and they were worried that relegation would inevitably mean cutbacks and are very concerned about their jobs.'"
All of which is understandable, but the main beef should be with the system that the chairman and owners etc voted for, and that should have happened in 2014. 2016 is too late to start complaining about it. It is what it is.
Can anyone find a link to Cockayne's complaints then, or around this time last year?
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