Massive relief to get that 13 game monkey off our back, and we deserved a win for the effort we have put in across the 3 games. I didn't think we could win the forward battle without Taylor, but it sounds like a few guys really upped their game today. It should be a great confidence boost, and there are good signs. Our attack seems a lot more varied and expansive this year. With Taylor back in there and Green/Bowden back to fitness we can really ask a lot of questions of teams, not to mention what Kelly can do.

We need to make sure that this is merely a stepping stone to better things though. A win today doesn't right all the wrongs of the last 9 months, but it's progress. Let's back it up next week now and start to get a bit of momentum going.

Maybe Ellis should be the coach

Maybe you should give it a rest.

Maybe you should be, with your vast knowledge of the game.

Well done boys, that was outstanding, Westy superb, and the returning Gaz Ellis an enforcer which who is irreplaceable, super atmosphere and a reet good session going home.
Not many will win at the pie dome, hope we can kick on now, we have good players to come back.

I didn't have much luck with the 79th minute equaliser costing me four hundred quid.


But bollox to that.
The boys finally caught a break and that's all that matters.
Think it could have finally broke us if Hardaker had converted but instead we went on to create Golden Point history.
Fine lines, innit?
Bl00dy fandabbydozee.

I did wonder if you got paid out on a golden point win or not! Gutted , exactly why I like the golden point though, would of felt like a defeat drawing that game, sounded a great game, gutted I didn't go, Radfords fault

awesome display by the boys, hopefully a turning point

The stats make better reading for the forwards this week. Still struggling to make significant inroads, the metres per carry were not impressive, but pretty much all of them put their hand up and did plenty of work.

Paea, 12 carries for 64 metres.
Masi, 10 for 51
Thompson, 14 for 65
Ellis, 9 for 55
Mini, 21 for 116
Manu, 19 for 101
Lane, 7 for 46
Westerman, 17 for 70

Also not one of them made a handling error and they conceded only 4 penalties between them.

Nothing there is headline grabbing, none of them managed much more than 6 metres per carry, but it just proves that if they can just hold their own, we have enough quality elsewhere to get the job done.

thank you rigsby,by the way,have you seen miss.jones lately.lol.

listening to the game on my laptop up here in jockland,it sounded as if we had made some changes to the way we play.well done boys,great win.

Poor stats from masi again, bit surprised though, sounded like he had a good game

I was surprised when I looked at the table that the team losing to the golden point doesn't get anything, Wigan are still on 0. In a lot of other sports, like Ice Hockey, the team losing in overtime gets a point for the draw after full time.

I thought he players well, brought an offload game. His defence us brilliant, think he will just keep getting better and better.

Nah, I am ok with that. I think we need to accept that he is never going to be a one man wrecking crew, but he is a very solid tackler, he makes minimal errors and has a presence which attracts defenders. If he can up his work rate (10 carries is fine) and work on his offload game (really good one led to Tuimavave scoring yesterday) then he can be a useful player.

I still think he runs too upright into contact though. He is a tall guy anyway, so the way he runs makes him too easy to stand up and drive back. Needs to lower his shoulders into the collision and then you might find that his leg drive will get him a lot more metres after contact.

this is much more consistent. i don't think it is the metres per carry thats the issue, it is the errors and penalties conceded giving the opposition easy metres. Also looks like everyone shared the work this time rather than a couple of them only doing 3 or 4 carries as in the last game. Knock similar stats out to those every week and put bowden and taylor in there and we will be fine

Fantastic win, great effort all round, well done LR and the team for achieving a very rare victory against Wigan on their home soil.

As far as I can tell, these are all our league victories against Wigan away between 1895 and 2015.

Sat 7 Dec 1895 Hull Home Lost 00-03
Sat 31 Jan 1903 Hull Home Lost 02-03
Wed 12 Apr 1905 Hull Home Lost 03-10
Sat 20 Sep 1919 Hull Home Lost 05-11
Sat 4 Nov 1922 Hull Home Lost 09-10
Sun 25 Oct 1981 Hull Home Lost 05-18
Wed 11 Jan 1989 Hull Home Lost 20-35
Sun 6 Sep 1992 Hull Home Lost 13-14
Fri 5 Apr 2002 Hull FC Home Lost 18-20
Fri 10 Jun 2005 Hull FC Home Lost 24-28
Fri 30 Aug 2013 Hull FC Home Lost 33-34

Not many I'm afraid, I knew they were few and far between, but the odds seem to have been stacked against us whatever team we may have had. None in the 1950's for example.

Some of the gaps will be when we didn't play them at all, fixtures were often regionalised in the dim and distant past.

(Roughly 61 Wigan home wins during the same period.)

We won there in 2016 (Jamie Shaul sealed it with a long range try), and 2017 as well (Kelly scored that try where he pinballed off 5 or 6 defenders). It's actually not a bad hunting ground for us in recent times.

He did have a good game and a couple of decent offloads too.
Stats dont always tell the story.

Penalty count sounds good but when 50% of your penalties result in tries for the opposition then its costly.
The number times we pin the oppositon in their twenty with good defence then give away a stupid penalty to relieve all the pressure and give them a leg upfield.

BIT harsh on the lad to single him out. On a per carry basis all of the forwards were only picking up about 5 yards a go. Show what Good line speed wigan had.

So..
Golden point practised in the week
Ellis selected and delivers (in face of derision)
Unknown winger identified and brought through to make 2 try debut
Hull avoid arm wrestle when missing forwards, use offloading game plan
None of the tries from kicks, all worked

Does Radford deserve any credit for the above?

Absolutely. The really re-assuring thing is the squad all seem together & massively motivated. With 3 front line props, Hadley, Albie & maybe Talanoa all to return in the next few weeks we could go on a bit of a winning run, be nice to be back in the top 5 soonest.

I watched from 1946 until 1959 when I left Hull and because of regionalisation cannot remember too many Wigan games being played in that period against either Hull or Rovers. Stretching my memory I only remember 1 in the late 40's when Wigan played Rovers. Went with my dad and the match was memorable for the incident in the last minutes when Wigan,behind by 1 point, were awarded a penalty for a voluntary tackle in the corner close to the Rovers line and kicked the goal to win.

Not seen too many penalties for voluntary tackles since!

Here are the Wigan results during that period...… Quote Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02 Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08 Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF: Hull Home Won 13-09 Sat 11 Oct 1952 Hull Home Won 36-08 Sat 3 Jan 1953 Hull Away Won 16-13 Sat 28 Feb 1953 Challenge Cup R2: Hull Home Won 18-10 Sat 14 Mar 1953 Challenge Cup QF: Hull KR Home Won 25-06 Sat 18 Aug 1956 Hull Away Lost 08-16 Sat 22 Sep 1956 Hull Home Won 30-17 Sat 12 Oct 1957 Hull Home Won 56-08 Sat 21 Dec 1957 Hull Away Lost 05-37 Sat 13 Sep 1958 Hull Away Lost 15-34 Sat 15 Nov 1958 Hull Home Won 31-07 Sat 9 May 1959 Challenge Cup Final: Hull Wembley Won 30-13 Sat 17 Oct 1959 Hull Away Won 09-08 Sat 21 Nov 1959 Hull Home Won 24-02 '" wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172

Here are the Wigan results during that period...… Quote Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02 Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08 Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF: Hull Home Won 13-09 Sat 11 Oct 1952 Hull Home Won 36-08 Sat 3 Jan 1953 Hull Away Won 16-13 Sat 28 Feb 1953 Challenge Cup R2: Hull Home Won 18-10 Sat 14 Mar 1953 Challenge Cup QF: Hull KR Home Won 25-06 Sat 18 Aug 1956 Hull Away Lost 08-16 Sat 22 Sep 1956 Hull Home Won 30-17 Sat 12 Oct 1957 Hull Home Won 56-08 Sat 21 Dec 1957 Hull Away Lost 05-37 Sat 13 Sep 1958 Hull Away Lost 15-34 Sat 15 Nov 1958 Hull Home Won 31-07 Sat 9 May 1959 Challenge Cup Final: Hull Wembley Won 30-13 Sat 17 Oct 1959 Hull Away Won 09-08 Sat 21 Nov 1959 Hull Home Won 24-02 '" wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172