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| Quote ="WormInHand"Poor from you, Gordon. I know you're not thick so can only assume you are being deliberately obtuse. There are plenty of unsavoury facts about this scheme as well you know. Another fact being that on-field performances are irrelevant, as folk have already parted with their money for their membership and their passes and next season is 5 months away.
If they can limp through the closed season.
Question, if the money for the scheme and the passes has already been gathered in, how strong is next year's cash flow going to be? Will Rovers need credit?'"
Missed the point again.
On field performances are very relevant. If they have a season like say Hull have had this year pass sales for 2011 will likely suffer, whereas if they have a decent season all this nonsense and bad feeling you talk about will likely be forgotten. Success on the field will ultimately dictate how successful the membership scheme eventually is.
The rest of your questions involve a lot of guesswork and in your case probably hopes and aspirations
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Missed the point again.
On field performances are very relevant. If they have a season like say Hull have had this year pass sales for 2011 will likely suffer, whereas if they have a decent season all this nonsense and bad feeling you talk about will likely be forgotten. Success on the field will ultimately dictate how successful the membership scheme eventually is.
The rest of your questions involve a lot of guesswork and in your case probably hopes and aspirations
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Do you think Rovers fans are more fickle than Hulls? Despite a shocking season last year our pass sales held up as they are expected to this year.
On field performances not a factor for us.
I do accept that thousands of new Rovers fans have joined on for the glory, however, their pass sales won't be increased by this scheme. People would have bought passes anyway, with or without the membership club. It's just that Rovers would not have had the extra £60 off them all upfront.
Or are you saying that this scheme has meant more new fans? Not sure how you can factually prove that
As a lying, boring airhead, I would be grateful, as you seem to know me so well, if you could inform me why I am disgruntled and to what I hope and aspire?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"The only fact out there is the 5000+ membership. On field performances will ultimately dictate the real success of the scheme.
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Well its just over 4500 today so maybe they are getting refunds? [urlhttp://www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=517[/url
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| Quote ="Forever FC"Well its just over 4500 today so maybe they are getting refunds?
[urlhttp://www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=517[/url'"
They haven't counted the 500+ that came in airmail from Australia yet. Big club is Rovers you know
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Guess what my point missed was that by not joining the scheme they may lose an existing benefit like your existing seat.
To use the car insurance analagy again, if i had previously bought car insurance with company x and it came with free breakdown cover, and they then said you are only going to keep the free breakdown cover in future when you renew by being a member of our additional scheme i'd find that a bit difficult to swallow. From a customer loyalty perspective i'd probably go elsewhere.'"
I have joined the scheme but do understand that in these times some people will be upset at having to pay 60 quid up front in a short space of time. However one of the reasons for joining is that it freezes the cost of next seasons seasons pass to 2008 Prices which is 179 pounds , to me good value and you get discounts in the club shop thus saving more money.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."Its a scam and if anyones signed upto it they have either got too much money or are thicker than an 150 year old oak tree.
Paying 60 quid just to have a flimsy card in your ar5e pocket to get a 10er off a shirt, discounted derby ticket, 20p off a big mac or whatever.
Whatever next? these clubs get a fair chunk of salary cash thrown at them already from sky, if these people want to be the big i am at runnin sports clubs and claim ownership then they should stump up the cash themselves otherwise you may as well let any old soul run it.
As for hull taking up the scheme, well in my eyes id like to consider myself already a loyal fan after the crap ive had to put up with on the pitch served up by shocking so called personnel describing themselves as super league players and coaches these past 3 years. I have a RESERVED seat since day one in the KC and i would be extremely miffed if that was taken from me because of some jumped up money makin scheme that gives no real benefits to an already loyal suppoter of 36 years.'"
If you trump up 60 quid your season pass for next season and 2011 is frozen at 2008 prices 179 quid otherwise I believe its 215 quid you have to pay. Plus you get discounts on the season shirt 10 pounds if only buying one which most supporters buy. So if you start to do the math then you can see you will start to get your 60 quid back quickly.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"If you trump up 60 quid your season pass for next season and 2011 is frozen at 2008 prices 179 quid otherwise I believe its 215 quid you have to pay. Plus you get discounts on the season shirt 10 pounds if only buying one which most supporters buy. So if you start to do the math then you can see you will start to get your 60 quid back quickly.'"
You have realised that they've put your pass up by 25% for the next 2 years haven't you? What pay rise did you get this year? They're taking more money off you, not giving it back
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You have realised that they've put your pass up by 25% for the next 2 years haven't you? What pay rise did you get this year? They're taking more money off you, not giving it back'"
I buy the shirts though and spend money in the shop for me and my daughter so we are going to get a certain percentage of that 60 quid back. My season pass is frozen at that price and I pay my money to get into the KC stadium at over inflated prices for the west stand upper. I joined early so I now don't get ripped off having to pay 23 quid to get into the KC as I'm guaranteed tickets to get into the North stand. It's entirely upto you if you wanted to join if someone say joined the scheme and sat in your seat for next season would you be miffed about it ?
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"I buy the shirts though and spend money in the shop for me and my daughter so we are going to get a certain percentage of that 60 quid back. My season pass is frozen at that price and I pay my money to get into the KC stadium at over inflated prices for the west stand upper. I joined early so I now don't get ripped off having to pay 23 quid to get into the KC as I'm guaranteed tickets to get into the North stand. It's entirely upto you if you wanted to join if someone say joined the scheme and sat in your seat for next season would you be miffed about it ?'"
£23 is good value for the KC a quality stadium,The £17 our supporters pay to get into your dump is the rip off ,when its normally £10 ,hence why i dont go and never will unless they get a desent stand near the pich and charge us the same as every other SL club
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"I buy the shirts though and spend money in the shop for me and my daughter so we are going to get a certain percentage of that 60 quid back. My season pass is frozen at that price and I pay my money to get into the KC stadium at over inflated prices for the west stand upper. I joined early so I now don't get ripped off having to pay 23 quid to get into the KC as I'm guaranteed tickets to get into the North stand. It's entirely upto you if you wanted to join if someone say joined the scheme and sat in your seat for next season would you be miffed about it ?'"
As opposed to £17 for your South Stand? At least you're guaranteed the 2 points as well
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"£23 is good value for the KC a quality stadium,The £17 our supporters pay to get into your dump is the rip off ,when its normally £10 ,hence why i dont go and never will unless they get a desent stand near the pich and charge us the same as every other SL club'"
Although a worthy cause, Think you'll find Rovers fans only club charged more at your place.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Although a worthy cause, Think you'll find Rovers fans only club charged more at your place.'"
I don't think they did and it certainly wasn't the £7 difference I paid from being with a Cas fan to the derby game in the very same stand!!
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"£23 is good value for the KC a quality stadium,The £17 our supporters pay to get into your dump is the rip off ,when its normally £10 ,hence why i dont go and never will unless they get a desent stand near the pich and charge us the same as every other SL club'"
To settle the conversation the cost of attending Rugby League games is getting ridiculous especially when you can get into the DW stadium for 16 pounds , well done Wigan. Why should the cost of a RL game be nearly the equivalent of watching a Premier League football team.
I wouldn't pay 17 pounds to get into the south stand at Rovers but would to sit down in the North Stand.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"To settle the conversation the cost of attending Rugby League games is getting ridiculous especially when you can get into the DW stadium for 16 pounds , well done Wigan. Why should the cost of a RL game be nearly the equivalent of watching a Premier League football team.
I wouldn't pay 17 pounds to get into the south stand at Rovers but would to sit down in the North Stand.'"
There is no reason, in principle, it should be - on the other hand, why not? Lowering prices might be balanced by more fans through the gates (I doubt it fwiw), but if not cuts will have to made somewhere. If SL is to retain full-time players and be more than a feeder to RU, revenue has to be maintained. Sky would pay less then too, so it could be a downward spiral.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"There is no reason, in principle, it should be - on the other hand, why not? Lowering prices might be balanced by more fans through the gates (I doubt it fwiw), but if not cuts will have to made somewhere. If SL is to retain full-time players and be more than a feeder to RU, revenue has to be maintained. Sky would pay less then too, so it could be a downward spiral.'"
RFL has fallen short in my opinion when they negotiated the contract with SKY they should of asked for more monies so that we could then go to a 16 team league. Why not because people are being priced out of the game it is becoming very expensive to watch RL especially when a family has a parent and two kids. The 40 quid scheme for juniors is very good but in my opinion Kids under ten should go free and tickets should be given away for youngster's to attend at the schools.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"RFL has fallen short in my opinion when they negotiated the contract with SKY they should of asked for more monies so that we could then go to a 16 team league.'"
This season has shown that there aren't enough quality players for 14 teams, much less 16.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Rovers are £2.4m in debt. This is not imaginary. Download the accounts from Companies House and see for yourself. Better yet, order an independent credit report.
Here's a question for you. Why do Rovers need to get Club Rovers 2010 membership payments in in July 2009 and get season pass renewals done by mid August, when at FC we have a discounted period that ends on 31st December?
Finally, Rovers accounts to 30/11/2008 are due to be filed this week. If all is rosy, I'm sure they'll be posting a big profit and reduction in debt.
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Honestly and truthfully, are you really that naive to imagine that our rise to again become the major RL force in Hull has come without pushing the boat out a bit?
Tell you what, you worry about your club's finances and we'll worry about ours. Deal?
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| Quote ="therobins"Honestly and truthfully, are you really that naive to imagine that our rise to again become the major RL force in Hull has come without pushing the boat out a bit?
Tell you what, you worry about your club's finances and we'll worry about ours. Deal?'"
you've obviously missed the last 5+ years when FC's debt level was the sole thing that occupied some rovers fans minds.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"you've obviously missed the last 5+ years when FC's debt level was the sole thing that occupied some rovers fans minds.
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Yeh, I think it tends to be a thing that the fans of the inferior club at any given time tends to focus on. A bit of a 'if we can't beat you on anything else, we'll concentrate on your club's finances'.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"you've obviously missed the last 5+ years when FC's debt level was the sole thing that occupied some rovers fans minds.
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Most of them have missed the last five years.
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| Quote ="DABHAND"Most of them have missed the last five years.
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| Quote ="therobins"Honestly and truthfully, are you really that naive to imagine that our rise to again become the major RL force in Hull has come without pushing the boat out a bit?'"
Nowt wrong with pushing the boat out a bit provided you can still pay creditors within terms.
Quote ="therobins" Tell you what, you worry about your club's finances and we'll worry about ours. Deal?'"
No deal - consider me Vicenzo's opposite number
Anyway tomorrow is filing deadline day for Rovers. And late filing of accounts is a criminal offence according to the Companies House website.
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| Quote ="russelbarwich" I think it stinks. Paying money so you can recieve discounts which can only be redeemed by spending more money. If you read the 'benefits' in the Rovers scheme you would realise it's just a money making excersise. If Hull Fc ever took up such a scheme and I lost my seat at the KC beacuse of it I would never attend a Hull FC match again, FACT!'"
Quote ="therobins"Why would any business want to do that?'"
Quote ="Mrs Barista"The package offered by Rovers, for example, is really just a way of trying to mask a +23% increase in season ticket prices with a couple of shirt discounts (which we get anyway as season passholders) plus a derby ticket promotion. If we offered something similar, I don't think I'd find it compelling.'"
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therobins - in one post you're saying it's simply a money making scheme as that's what business's are about and then when it's suggested that this is what Rovers are doing and that it wouldn't work for us you retort to banging your head on the wall!
So don't you agree that your clubs "scheme" is nothing but a way of fleecing those supporters who follow the club with blind faith???
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