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| I just wear Jordan's when he's not training
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| It's always bugged me that more people in Wakefield wore Bulls or even Rhinos kit buy with their success and better quality merchandise it was understandable.
The Bulls fans who were fair weather supporters are there to be clawed back and this merchandise is a great way to start.
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| I know of some people out there who were Wakefield supporters and turned to Leeds when they started to get success.
They had a bad season in 2016 and I dont predict them turning it round for 2017 back to how they were. I predict an improved season though.
If their struggles continue in 2017 could some of those be won back.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I know of some people out there who were Wakefield supporters and turned to Leeds when they started to get success.
They had a bad season in 2016 and I dont predict them turning it round for 2017 back to how they were. I predict an improved season though.
If their struggles continue in 2017 could some of those be won back.'"
No thank you don't want any turncloaks. I know someone who proclaimed to support Wakey then did the dirty and switched Cas when they started doing "well" under Powell.
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| Quote ="Willzay"No thank you don't want any turncloaks. I know someone who proclaimed to support Wakey then did the dirty and switched Cas when they started doing "well" under Powell.'"
I'd say we're in a position of beggars can't be choosers. If someone wants to come and pay to watch Wakefield then I don't care who they've supported in the past, their money is as good as anyone's.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"I'd say we're in a position of beggars can't be choosers. If someone wants to come and pay to watch Wakefield then I don't care who they've supported in the past, their money is as good as anyone's.'"
No its not, they are not supporters of any club they are glory hunters !
When things are not going there way then they are the ones slagging the team off in there local pub and work place . You can do without pee pots like them.
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| I'm just hoping they still have hoodies left at the end of the month when I get paid anyone any ideas what the sizes are like
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"I'd say we're in a position of beggars can't be choosers. If someone wants to come and pay to watch Wakefield then I don't care who they've supported in the past, their money is as good as anyone's.'"
I don't mind casuals or people who pick and chose games or teams they wish to watch. Those people are welcome to BV any day.
A turncoat is a completely different beast, they are simply pond life. We may only be talking RL here but I think it tells you all you need to know about them as people and every impulse you have should tell you to give them a wide birth.
I just don't think it's possible to change support and the fact that they can do it shows they were never true supporters of their old club nor will they be of their new one. I wouldn't have them back at any cost but that's just me I suppose. Hell i don't even like belly complimenting Cas. I don't like cas fans generally but I don't hate them, but I do turncoats or quizlings as I like to call them.
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| Providing they turn up pay £20 quid I don't care. I do remember a lot of bull stickers on cars in and around the wakefield area they did a very good job of marketing the area .
When it matters to me is when a business from the area takes to promotiing or advertising another club. I notice a certain carpet company constantly advertising in the express with the giants squad in the promotion. I would never contemplate buying a carpet from them.
The club needs all the support it can get and will not give two hoots what club they have supported in the past and neither should we
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| Anyone who wants to put their £20+ into the Trinity coffers should be welcomed with open arms.
From all the cars in Wakefield that started "trimming up" with Bulls flags or Rhinos stuff, we'll have them down at BV.
Of course there are glory supporters who change their team every other year but, lets face it, most people have said that our support will increase if we have some on field success.
Where do we think these fans are now ?
Sure, some are "dormant" fans who may have stopped coming but, many will be "glory hunters".
Is anyone seriously suggesting that we should turn them away ?
What we need to do is, ensure that coming to BV is a good afternoon out and that they may want to come back.
Eventually, they will be hooked and even when things take a turn for the worse, which they often do, some of them may still be coming.
Also, as one of the few clubs still playing on Sunday afternoons, we should be advertising the fact that we will often be the only SL game taking place in Yorkshire.
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| We need all the funding we can get so in that sense I couldn't care less whether people see the light switch to Trinity from another team! Having said that they could disappear just as quickly as they arrived so again it's not really building a solid support base to help sustain the club long term.
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| Back to merchandise, best we've had for quality selection and looks good, spoilt for choice.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Providing they turn up pay £20 quid I don't care. I do remember a lot of bull stickers on cars in and around the wakefield area they did a very good job of marketing the area .
When it matters to me is when a business from the area takes to promotiing or advertising another club. I notice a certain carpet company constantly advertising in the express with the giants squad in the promotion. I would never contemplate buying a carpet from them.
The club needs all the support it can get and will not give two hoots what club they have supported in the past and neither should we'"
Then whats the point in being proud of your club and where does it stop.
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| Quote ="vastman"Then whats the point in being proud of your club and where does it stop.'"
But does it really matter though? If we had a bit of success and 1000 glory supporters turned up we'd be far more likely to sustain that success. Personally I'd be far too busy enjoying us being successful to care.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"But does it really matter though? If we had a bit of success and 1000 glory supporters turned up we'd be far more likely to sustain that success. Personally I'd be far too busy enjoying us being successful to care.'"
Glory supporters and turncoats are not the same thing. One turns up only when we are doing well which is annoying but I accept it. A turncoat has actively supported another club and applauded said club to the rafters when they have beaten us probably in our darkest moments.
That does matter to me and personally I'd neve ever accept them back - parasites like that ultimately destroy clubs because they jump ship when we need them most.
So you may not care now but you sure as hell will later down the line.
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| Quote ="vastman"Then whats the point in being proud of your club and where does it stop.'"
Who cares, just because we couldn't swap our teams at will doesn't mean anyone else can't. It's bizarre to me but their cash is as good as ours when it comes to running the club.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Who cares, just because we couldn't swap our teams at will doesn't mean anyone else can't. It's bizarre to me but their cash is as good as ours when it comes to running the club.'"
I care and so do others - what's bizarre is that someone who's user name is I hate cas doesn't, which makes me think your beyond bizarre and incredibly shallow.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Who cares, just because we couldn't swap our teams at will doesn't mean anyone else can't. It's bizarre to me but their cash is as good as ours when it comes to running the club.'"
If I ever get to see Wakey play at Wembley, I wouldn't want someone who "supported" Cas or Leeds or any other club the previous year stood beside me.
Of course financially there money is just as good. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
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| Quote ="vastman"I care and so do others - what's bizarre is that someone who's user name is I hate cas doesn't, which makes me think your beyond bizarre and incredibly shallow.'"
Whatever , I'd rather the club benefit from their money than another team. If we're pull in any kind of glory hunters we're doing something right imo.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Whatever
, I'd rather the club benefit from their money than another team. If we're pull in any kind of glory hunters we're doing something right imo.'"
You can yawn if you want but it's not half as tiresome as someone who doesn't get the difference between a glory supporter and a turn coat. I'll give you my definitions as tbd they may not be the same as yours and see what you think.
Glory fan: Someone who supports Trinity but only when they are doing well and they tend to pick and chose their games. No problem here, all clubs have them and they are an indicator and a reward for the teams success.
Bandwagon jumpers: Don't really get these people but they are harmless enough. They tend o go with the crowd and will often support a team short term because their mate does or girlfriend does or it's just the thing to do.A bit shallow but what the hell.
Casuals: People who just watch the game not the teams and thus tend to gravitate towards top teams. No issue.
[size=150Turn coat: [/sizeSomeone who has actively supported one club from the start. These people are often very vocal and opinionated in there support. You'll often find them at the front of the crowd giving opposition fans a hard time. Then something upsets them and before you know it they full belt supporting a team they previously hated with a passion. A passion they then turn against their old club. These people I simply can't abide and would never want back, why on earth would you - would you invite Rosemary West into your family knowing what you do? I know that's an extreme example but it makes the point.
There is one other group of fans that Wakefield has far to many of and that's those who have fallen out with the club. That list is way to long and sadly I understand their issues and they need addressing - there is a massive wedge of cash there and in most cases all it would take is a SORRY to get them back.
HTH
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| I'm clearly shallow.
I don't care where the supporters have bee to watch their rugby.
If they pay they get to watch.
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| Rugby is about entertainment. Yes, there are emotional attachments that can go back years, but I won't criticise anyone who will only choose to pay money to be entertained when it is entertaining.
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| Call them what you want, but all of those groups of fans youve mentioned will only come when the times are good. If we can have some good times then we'll get their money. That money can then be used to keep the good times coming which will keep them coming.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm clearly shallow.
I don't care where the supporters have bee to watch their rugby.
If they pay they get to watch.'"
You are.
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| I'm shallow as well Pop Tart. I really couldn't care less who's standing next to me as long as they're shouting for Trinity. I can't understand how anybody can change allegiance but I'd be happy for a thousand 'turncoats' to start coming to games.
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