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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm pretty sure the Wigan game was about 4k'"
Which one? Round 17 or 23?
There may be some cross purposes going on here. I think round 17 was the highest of the season with promos for kids as the last game for the old east stand.
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| FWIW I think we’ve witnessed a storm in a teacup with people getting their knickers in a twist over nothing really in the big scheme of things , did anyone really think they’d leave it looking like a pigsty.Fans yet again rounding on our leader with anything they can find and if not make it up . I’m of the opinion that let the contractor and club get on with their job and us get on with supporting the team , then there won’t be all this foaming at the mouth over Carter being the anti christ ,who’s sole purpose is the dismantling of our club. Sometime I have to give my head a shake I really do
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| Quote ="Kettykat"FWIW I think we’ve witnessed a storm in a teacup with people getting their knickers in a twist over nothing really in the big scheme of things , did anyone really think they’d leave it looking like a pigsty.Fans yet again rounding on our leader with anything they can find and if not make it up . I’m of the opinion that let the contractor and club get on with their job and us get on with supporting the team , then there won’t be all this foaming at the mouth over Carter being the anti christ ,who’s sole purpose is the dismantling of our club. Sometime I have to give my head a shake I really do
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Agree With what is happening now in this country ,as people are getting ripped of big time by the government lies about cost of living .just glad we have got people in charge who care about the club.With all the crap they get from some of the supporters on here they skin as got to be as thick as a Rino.Some of the things you read you could not make up Sorry not true some fans do make it up
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| Quote ="vastman"Would have thought that was impossible to be honest. Where could you put them?
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I thought the ground held 11k (Glover era we were near that) but only 7.6k were allowed in now because of health and safety (crush barriers etc). Wigan at home before the demolition we announced over 7k.
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| The capacity has been around 7200 since 2016/2017 when the North Stand capacity was cut. It's now about 4900 with the east seats and paddock gone.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I thought the ground held 11k (Glover era we were near that) but only 7.6k were allowed in now because of health and safety (crush barriers etc). Wigan at home before the demolition we announced over 7k.'"
It might have done in his mind and his inflated figures, but it never did.
That 7k figure might be right but it didn't look it. No idea, but what I know for sure is the North stand capacity is now at 1500, and that is dire. You certainly wouldn't get 7k in now.
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| Quote ="Martyceezed"The capacity has been around 7200 since 2016/2017 when the North Stand capacity was cut. It's now about 4900 with the east seats and paddock gone.'"
That sound about right.
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| Another question maybe worth asking while you have the chance is with the current necessary cutbacks to phase 1 of the redevelopment will phase 2 still go ahead as planned (rollin shack) or will that be potentially scaled back/delayed
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| Quote ="WakiWaki"Another question maybe worth asking while you have the chance is with the current necessary cutbacks to phase 1 of the redevelopment will phase 2 still go ahead as planned (rollin shack) or will that be potentially scaled back/delayed'"
Which one is the rollin shack? If it's the old cats bar then yeah I will, although I do know for certain that the original plan for the old Cats bar were scrapped in favour of something more simple, but I don't know what that is.
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| Quote ="vastman"Which one is the rollin shack? If it's the old cats bar then yeah I will, although I do know for certain that the original plan for the old Cats bar were scrapped in favour of something more simple, but I don't know what that is.'"
Not heard anything about cutting back plans for the Gymnasium in the Rollin shack, as it was part of the community package which the council provided two million funding. Next season I imagine t will still be used for match day and other social functions until the East Stand I up and running. One idea I had for match days anyway should the Gymnasium not go ahead, is to make the Rollin shack similar to the Fox’s Bar with a subscription, for those more mature fans, who pre/post match, might not fancy the rough and tumble of drinking in the fan zone or in the concourse of the new stand.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Not heard anything about cutting back plans for the Gymnasium in the Rollin shack, as it was part of the community package which the council provided two million funding. Next season I imagine t will still be used for match day and other social functions until the East Stand I up and running. One idea I had for match days anyway should the Gymnasium not go ahead, is to make the Rollin shack similar to the Fox’s Bar with a subscription, for those more mature fans, who pre/post match, might not fancy the rough and tumble of drinking in the fan zone or in the concourse of the new stand.
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It was in the JM podcast or interview on Trinity TV, can't remember which.
Won't be on the WMDC portal as it's not external or a radical change of use. I think his words were that the original idea was to costly (to run I think) and they had not yet decided what they were going to do going forward. That of course might have changed since then, so I will ask.
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| Just a point how will buying S T for East stand work this year .Know it will not be ready before June .so will you pick from a plan of the new stand .Can not see them waiting till June before E Stand tickets to on sale
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| Quote ="alegend"Just a point how will buying S T for East stand work this year .Know it will not be ready before June .so will you pick from a plan of the new stand .Can not see them waiting till June before E Stand tickets to on sale'"
Although I’m a commit six member and already paid 8 months of next season ticket,I did mention something similar to a club employee regarding not having a covered stand although paying for that facility. Politely I was advised that I was actually paying for a seat which is still being provided in front of the hospitality boxes. I’m not about to take my bat home, I just hope it’s not raining on home match days. Also, I think the club are hoping enough of the stand with some roof will be available sometime during next season for the East Standers to sit in. All depends how quickly the building work progresses.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Although I’m a commit six member and already paid 8 months of next season ticket,I did mention something similar to a club employee regarding not having a covered stand although paying for that facility. Politely I was advised that I was actually paying for a seat which is still being provided in front of the hospitality boxes. I’m not about to take my bat home, I just hope it’s not raining on home match days. Also, I think the club are hoping enough of the stand with some roof will be available sometime during next season for the East Standers to sit in. All depends how quickly the building work progresses.'"
Thanks Dunkirk Spirit will still buy E Stand tickets all been well Got one this year but did not use it .just stood up at games ,or if lucky was in hospitality a few times .S T is in buget ,same as squad builder .
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| I am sure that ground tickets and stand tickets are the same price, they certainly are on match day basis. I was also told if you had a stand season ticket you could also use it in any part of the ground. Thats my two penneth in support of the club.
However like all reasonable debate you need balance. A basic concession at Saints and Huddersfield both cost me £16 a basic standing /seated concession at Wakefield costs £20. I think standard adult have similar price differential. I know loyal regulars allow the club slack regarding this, but away supporters and the more casual ones may not. Considering our present facilities we may be pushing our luck a little.
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| Thread cleaned up.
Let's keep this to do with the ground changes please.
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| Vasty, if you still have your list of questions for JM at your tea and chat, I noticed the roof overhang of the stand has been reduced at both ends of the stand. The concourse North end of the new stand was to have the Family/Fan Zone which would have been protected by the roof overhang. Question “is the Family/Fan Zone still going ahead”.
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| Are the old loos being refurbished or am I keeping my flip flops in the wardrobe?
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Vasty, if you still have your list of questions for JM at your tea and chat, I noticed the roof overhang of the stand has been reduced at both ends of the stand. The concourse North end of the new stand was to have the Family/Fan Zone which would have been protected by the roof overhang. Question “is the Family/Fan Zone still going ahead”.'"
Will do but can you give me the link so I’m certain what I’m on about. Don’t know when meeting will be but I will e-mail them. Hoping to hear singing soon to give you all. Ta.
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Quote ="vastman"Will do but can you give me the link so I’m certain what I’m on about. Don’t know when meeting will be but I will e-mail them. Hoping to hear singing soon to give you all. Ta.'"
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 with Revision Cloud. This drawing shows the roof overhang is removed.
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 shows the amount 7.425metre overhang removed.
The fan Zone area is showing on the initial planning application, I can look up that if need be. It does show the area is at the North end concourse behind the new stand.
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
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Quote ="vastman"Will do but can you give me the link so I’m certain what I’m on about. Don’t know when meeting will be but I will e-mail them. Hoping to hear singing soon to give you all. Ta.'"
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 with Revision Cloud. This drawing shows the roof overhang is removed.
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 shows the amount 7.425metre overhang removed.
The fan Zone area is showing on the initial planning application, I can look up that if need be. It does show the area is at the North end concourse behind the new stand.
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 with Revision Cloud. This drawing shows the roof overhang is removed.
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 shows the amount 7.425metre overhang removed.
The fan Zone area is showing on the initial planning application, I can look up that if need be. It does show the area is at the North end concourse behind the new stand.
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary'"
7.425 metre of roof removed??
That’s over 24 feet of roof and is a significant amount of change, why?
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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 with Revision Cloud. This drawing shows the roof overhang is removed.
6th July 2022 GA Roof Plan P5 shows the amount 7.425metre overhang removed.
The fan Zone area is showing on the initial planning application, I can look up that if need be. It does show the area is at the North end concourse behind the new stand.
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary'"
7.425 metre of roof removed??
That’s over 24 feet of roof and is a significant amount of change, why?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"7.425 metre of roof removed??
That’s over 24 feet of roof and is a significant amount of change, why?'"
The overhang that’s been removed (each end of the building, not the centre part over hospitality) has no part of the building below it. Just fresh air, it seems to be part of the value engineering.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"The overhang that’s been removed (each end of the building, not the centre part over hospitality) has no part of the building below it. Just fresh air, it seems to be part of the value engineering.'"
comparisons between the two roof drawings shows a bit of discrepancy, the “plan P5 with revision cloud” with the red dotted lines shows a reduced overhang of 5.8 metres.
Best if you click onto the link and see the roof plans. It will make more sense if you can see them.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"7.425 metre of roof removed??
That’s over 24 feet of roof and is a significant amount of change, why?'"
To save money. The over hang is behind the stand. Value engineering again but this at least its not affecting spectotors. Its more of a visual downgrade.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"7.425 metre of roof removed??
That’s over 24 feet of roof and is a significant amount of change, why?'"
It's obvious isn't it?
Cost saving in an area that had no real value anyway.
There is an economic crisis on the go.
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