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| Quote ="Big lads mate"You will be moving now PT knowing DS is nearby
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Lol. Always happy to say hello but he's still 6 rows away. I think I'm safe
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| Quote ="PopTart"Lol. Always happy to say hello but he's still 6 rows away. I think I'm safe'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"In terms of developments a lot of them are still in an either/or stage.
So if they get the plan they want for one thing it might change the plan for another so can't say for sure.
What they did say was they are definitely converting the big house/ showroom to a club shop and cafe.
The designs look really smart and will be another good focal point as you approach the ground.
They've already started putting up boards. It'll be a reasonably quick build.
They'll let the shop in Ridings go when this is done.
They said they will give the gym an upgrade in terms of equipment.
Same with the Rollin Shack bars.
Any major work on these two are still in idea stage but are intended in the long term.
The sports bar idea is popular but that could go a number of different ways. Still thinking about that.
He said they were likely to do terracing at south end but they talked about both terrace and seating, depending if they go with the hospitality ideas down there.
Terracing is a relatively cheap increase in capacity compared to West and North.
Still wants to expand north at the back but it's a big project.
They are doing some big changes to Web sites which we'll see pretty soon. They know their stuff in this area. Looks really good.
And finally, =#FF0000I forgot to ask when shirts would be launched but they did like the idea of making it an event when asked.
The reason I forgot to ask was they surprised us with a sneak preview of the away shirt design. Absolutely swore us to secrecy so no photos.......all I can say is it got very positive response from the whole room.
Watch out on social media.'"
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| Richard Osman could write a 5th crime novel based on Trinity fans.
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| There was another interesting topic brought up at the meeting that doesn’t appear on here or RW&B facebook, so I’m not sure if it has to remain confidential, perhaps Pop Tart could clarify the situation that relates to training facilities.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"There was another interesting topic brought up at the meeting that doesn’t appear on here or RW&B facebook, so I’m not sure if it has to remain confidential, perhaps Pop Tart could clarify the situation that relates to training facilities.'"
Yes I was thinking that was a bit confidential until sorted out.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Yes I was thinking that was a bit confidential until sorted out.'"
Yes I understood that too
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| Just a few random points here and ideas. Something I would personally like to see and perhaps could be looked at as options at some point. Maybe at the next meeting.
I saw on social media a poll on whether programs are worth persevering with on match day. This got me thinking about what I would like to see and what would sell.
So, would I buy a programme on a regular match day? The answer is no. And I’m pretty hardcore as a fan as are most here I’d suspect.
I would however buy it if there was a unique selling point such as…
A 2025 sticker book collectible - something for example like the old pokemon books or old football sticker books.
Pre season all sticker books are sold. Each match day there are 3/4 baseball style cards with each programme sold. Each one on reverse some career short details and front a players position etc.
Would I buy it then? Yes, I probably would as a collectible. I’d even pay £5 or so every match to fill my collection up.
The first one of the season could include an official trinity pin badge too.
That is the old reason I would consider buying a programme these days.
I don’t know if something like that is possible but it could be popular with kids and adults alike.
A programme in this day and age just wouldn’t sell as is.
Just a random thought that came to me this evening.
It may seem trivial but ideas like this cost nothing and can really promote engagement between club and fans of all ages. Collectibles like this are becoming a thing of the past but when you look back at them from years ago they generally mean something.
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| So yes I forgot to mention that. Matt did say he liked the idea of bringing a programme back.
Lots said it was a good idea
Personally I think it's an older gen thing.
I'd rather get the most up to date view on my phone on the morning of tge game.
Everything in a programme is at least a couple of days out of date.
Anything you can put in a programme you can put online.
Just my view.
In terms of your sticker idea.
I used to like doing the World Cup sticker books but as a parent they are very very expensive.
Not sure it would either be cost effective or if it was it would get bad publicity for ripping off fans.
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| I always fancied that a yearbook sold as a Christmas annual would be cool... I would certainly cough up a few Aussie dollars to collect those ... one for this last season would be a collectors piece!
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| Quote ="Spookisback"I always fancied that a yearbook sold as a Christmas annual would be cool... I would certainly cough up a few Aussie dollars to collect those ... one for this last season would be a collectors piece!'"
That’s what I mean. I was just thinking what would encourage me and others to buy. You have to create a product that generates demand and this would imo.
That said I see PTs point. Whether it’s cost effective is another question but for every person like me there’ll be others who prefer the electronic scrolling on phone pre match.
This has got me thinking onto how we can improve the pre match technology element.
How can we get people like PT who would like an electronic programme or content pre match?
Could we sell digital programmes at the ground?
Could we create pre match specific interview, comment and digital wallpaper for purchase pre match to provide exclusive behind the scenes access to paywall content that can be watched pre game.
We are in the digital age afterall.
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| Would selling access to a high speed high quality Internet access, perhaps with all the benefits TH mentions above, be of interest? I've got 5G on my phone, but at the game it slows to a crawl presumably because of bandwidth issues (don't ask me what that means, that's what a young person told me!).
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| Quote ="AgbriggAmbler"Would selling access to a high speed high quality Internet access, perhaps with all the benefits TH mentions above, be of interest? I've got 5G on my phone, but at the game it slows to a crawl presumably because of bandwidth issues (don't ask me what that means, that's what a young person told me!).'"
Too many people in one small area all trying to access the available internet/reception. Its a very hard problem to solve and in most sporting grounds have the same issue. Not a Belle Vue issue per se
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| Quote ="AgbriggAmbler"Would selling access to a high speed high quality Internet access, perhaps with all the benefits TH mentions above, be of interest? I've got 5G on my phone, but at the game it slows to a crawl presumably because of bandwidth issues (don't ask me what that means, that's what a young person told me!).'"
Think of it like a 6” sewage pipe servicing Belle Vue, it’s adequate 90% of the time but on match days an extra 5,000 people are flushing the loo so the pipe struggles to let it all through.
Hope that imagery helps your understanding
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| Agbrigg has always been (and still is) terrible for reception. In my former life both me and my colleagues used to spend quite a bit of time in Agbrigg but we always struggled to get any sort of reception down there and it clearly hasn't improved since.
We rarely get a signal at Belle Vue and it is only when we get back on to Barnsley Road that any of us get a signal.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That’s what I mean. I was just thinking what would encourage me and others to buy. You have to create a product that generates demand and this would imo.
That said I see PTs point. Whether it’s cost effective is another question but for every person like me there’ll be others who prefer the electronic scrolling on phone pre match.
This has got me thinking onto how we can improve the pre match technology element.
How can we get people like PT who would like an electronic programme or content pre match?
Could we sell digital programmes at the ground?
Could we create pre match specific interview, comment and digital wallpaper for purchase pre match to provide exclusive behind the scenes access to paywall content that can be watched pre game.
We are in the digital age afterall.'"
I get where you’re coming from regarding the digital age, but…..When you change your phone, lap top, tablets etc you’ll need to transfer your past purchases over, plus when new technology comes along the old format will be redundant. Paper is still good, you can always return 20yrs later (and more) for a read.
I was hoping the club would bring out a celebration package of this season, a celebration magazine with a DVD, plus a download version for people to remember this season
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| Quote ="JINJER"I get where you’re coming from regarding the digital age, but…..When you change your phone, lap top, tablets etc you’ll need to transfer your past purchases over, plus when new technology comes along the old format will be redundant. Paper is still good, you can always return 20yrs later (and more) for a read.
I was hoping the club would bring out a celebration package of this season, a celebration magazine with a DVD, plus a download version for people to remember this season'"
Do they even still sell DVD players?
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| Quote ="JINJER"I get where you’re coming from regarding the digital age, but…..When you change your phone, lap top, tablets etc you’ll need to transfer your past purchases over, plus when new technology comes along the old format will be redundant. Paper is still good, you can always return 20yrs later (and more) for a read.
I was hoping the club would bring out a celebration package of this season, a celebration magazine with a DVD, plus a download version for people to remember this season'"
It would certainly be nice to have some form of memorabilia for this season.
I am thinking along the lines of….
A special edition playing shirt for Xmas - with detail of all 3 x competitions won. With option of framing for extra cost.
To be honest I can’t remember last time I used a dvd/vhs. It’s all streaming now and that technology is pretty much under the ground.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I get where you’re coming from regarding the digital age, but…..When you change your phone, lap top, tablets etc you’ll need to transfer your past purchases over, plus when new technology comes along the old format will be redundant. Paper is still good, you can always return 20yrs later (and more) for a read.
I was hoping the club would bring out a celebration package of this season, a celebration magazine with a DVD, plus a download version for people to remember this season'"
I don't understand any of this? You talked about old formats being redundant and then mentioned DVDs which have been redundant for at least 10 years. You don't have to transfer any past purchases over for 'new technology' - that's what iCloud and other systems of that nature are for. Nothing has ever been easier for online content in 2024 going into 2025.
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| Quote ="JamieRobinson1234"I don't understand any of this? You talked about old formats being redundant and then mentioned DVDs which have been redundant for at least 10 years. You don't have to transfer any past purchases over for 'new technology' - that's what iCloud and other systems of that nature are for. Nothing has ever been easier for online content in 2024 going into 2025.'"
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| Cloud, digital, streaming etc etc
In my him humble opinion far too much reliance placed on that nowadays- give me something tangible any day!
Books and magazines can be kept for years and I still have a seasons bound copy of programmes from the early 1950's and loads of magazines and programmes from years ago and nothing electric needed to look at them!- digital stuff so easily lost!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Cloud, digital, streaming etc etc
In my him humble opinion far too much reliance placed on that nowadays- give me something tangible any day!
Books and magazines can be kept for years and I still have a seasons bound copy of programmes from the early 1950's and loads of magazines and programmes from years ago and nothing electric needed to look at them!- digital stuff so easily lost!'"
Digital stuff is not easily lost if you take care of it. Same as paper.
But you can make multiple copies of digital to safe guard it, and it is always in perfect condition.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Digital stuff is not easily lost if you take care of it. Same as paper.
But you can make multiple copies of digital to safe guard it, and it is always in perfect condition.'"
Thanks PT you're obviously converted.
I'm not and lots out there are the same as me.
If it came to digital or conventional there's only one I'd buy.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Thanks PT you're obviously converted.
I'm not and lots out there are the same as me.
If it came to digital or conventional there's only one I'd buy.'"
That's fair enough. I'm not suggesting there is only one way.
Sometimes I like to read something physical too.
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