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| Quote ="snowie"icon_eek.gif you are joking, are you saying once they have finished playing that they couldn't do anything else, I know some take some nasty knocks but even then they choose to do the sport with open eyes and most take the time to prepare for after they finish'"
Totally agree. Makes me laugh even more when they say footballers need to set themselves as they only have a short career! As you say it's not like they have their arms and legs lopped off as soon as they finish they are still more than capable of getting another job. How many people these days stay in the same job for their entire working life?
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| The Question you should ask is whether Pitts has actually made the decision to go, or the club? Because as you say, it's probably not the best move for him right now.
FWIW im told that Brad is defo going to Cas, Martin also with Evans in return (Martin does not want to go, but club won't offer him a long enough deal) Brough and Atkins are staying, Tronc and Newton are sorted and JK is activley pursuing a s/o.......
but that could all be rubbish i suppose
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"
FWIW im told that Brad is defo going to Cas, Martin also with Evans in return (Martin does not want to go, but club won't offer him a long enough deal)
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Why did Evans go to Bradford first time round? I thought it was money and length of contract? What's changed now?
I really rate Evans but I'd rather have Martin as long as we get a stand off and put him back in the centre, which is what will happen if Evans comes anyway. I suppose Evans could be cheaper as Martin came with big rep.
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| In the link below it says brough knocked us back because he is reluctant to leave yorkshire, also says that brough is almost certain to sign for huddersfield.
[url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby_league/s/1124112_brough_blow_for_redsLink[/url
In the same paper yesterday salford have been linked to jefferies
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| Quote ="scott-the-red"In the link below it says brough knocked us back because he is reluctant to leave yorkshire'"
Now, it didn't really say that did it?
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| Quote ="scott-the-red"In the link below it says brough knocked us back because he is reluctant to leave yorkshire, also says that brough is almost certain to sign for huddersfield.
[url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby_league/s/1124112_brough_blow_for_redsLink[/url
In the same paper yesterday salford have been linked to jefferies'"
Only the 3rd time that piece of rubbish has been quoted!
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| I posted this two months ago and in view of this thread creating so much interest I thought it might be useful to revisit it possibly reassess some of my decisions back then.
Quote ="The Clan"Before anyone criticises this thread as being unsupportive, might be unsettling, nice to know I'm behind our players, Too early for this type of discussion etc . . etc . .
It's just my opinion which was'nt formed over the course of one game but has been considerd, measured and has been made without emotion for what I think IMO is the best for the club.
I hope it fosters plenty of debate which is what this board is there for.
Please don't shoot me!
[size=150[uNot Sure[/u[/size
Winterstein - Not seen Enough =redsame, but has looked promising
Bibb - Show me something Before it's too late =redsorry Kyle but it's too late
Latu - Love the Excitemeny Hate the inconsistancy=red certainly been more consistent of late
Bibey - Top form OK but take a dip and you're gone =redmaintained decent form
Rooney - I have faith but it's time to walk the walk or leave =redI guess it turned out to be the latter
Grix - Don't know where you fit but it aint on the wing =redexactly the same
[size=150[uKeep[/u[/size
Blaymire - But where's your attacking flair gone? =redSame
Blanch - Done enough to stay despite being injured a lot =redsame
Atkins - Look for work lad and learn to put the winger away =redsame
Gleeson - Got the goods but need some beleif, man up fella! =redPlayed better in recent games
Murphy - Almost in the not sure catagorie but has time on his side =redhis injury makes this one difficult
George - Time to deliver on your huge potential! =redStill waiting
Brough - Don't take it for granted Danny! =redSame, stay here and let's build a team around you
Stosic - We're missing you! =redGlad to have you back
Moore - Don't lose the explosive side of your game =redstill underweight and needs to find his fire
Ferguson - Keep up the progress Dale, people are noticing you! =redMore people have noticed
Snitch - Impressive return to Trinity and now a 1st choice player =rednothing changed here still one of our best
Pitts - Done well but don't forget to excell! Don't settle for being average. =redPretty much the same but I think his game is held back maybe a move is what he needs to develop
Sculthorpe - Xfactor and enforcer and also has immense experience =redturned out to be a bad Apple and was rightly moved on
Wilkes - Hard work and honesty in spades =redexactly the same, I wish every player had his integrity
[size=150[uGet Rid[/u[/size
Drew - Despite a good early season I'm not convinced =redclass not in question! physical ability at 34 is being tested
Obst - Sorry little Sam but we need a bit more from an over seas player =redI still feel the same and maybe a move would benefit Sam as well
Henderson - Some honest hard work and secent performances but on balance . . . =redmy opinion has only been reinforced
Petersen - Sorry but injuries, circumstance whatever it has'nt worked =redit just hasn't worked
Demitriou - Almost a legend and stay in spme capacity but not as a player =redpassion, drive, honesty, experience and the Talisman for the team. I would take his word for it if he said it could play for the next 20 years but my head is telling me that Father Time and a long career is catching up with Jason
[size=150[uTargets for next year[/u[/size
Mark Flanagan - Wigan - Loose Forward - 23yrs old =redgetting absolute rave reviews in the reserves and is too good not to be playing first team football
Stephan Ratchford - Salford - Stand Off - 22yrs old =redhe wasn't exactly a secret when I wrote this as he wasn't demanding a first-team place, we'd have no chance of signing him now
Ashley Gibson - Leeds - Centre - 24yrs old =redI think his recent first-team appearances will only serve to confirm his departure from Leeds still a valid target OR
Ben Jones Bishop - Leeds - Centre - 22yrs old =redI won't hold my breath waiting for Leeds to let him go but if we could get him he would be a revelation
Josh Griffin - Huddersfield - Full Back - 20 yrs old (I know) =redwould still make a valuable addition to the squad
Paul McShane - Leeds - Hooker - 20yrs old =redwe've got more chance of getting Matt Diskin than McShane '"
As for Shane Tronc everything I've seen about this guy says he would be a fantastic signing for Wakefield Trinity. I've seen him play a number of times for North Queensland Cowboys and he's always been at the forefront of their pack. I've done some research on his match statistics and gone out of my way to find out what the NQC fans think of him, there's nothing to suggest that he wouldn't be a huge asset if we have or are going to sign him.
I have mixed feelings about Terry Newton and a lot will depend on whether he moves to Wakefield and is revitalised by the challenge or whether he is winding down his career. There is no doubt that if he still has the passion and the physical ability to play the game he would be good for Wakefield Trinity.
I like the look of Jodie Broughton, he has pace, strength, fantastic balance and he understands the game you can see that when he's running with the ball. His lines of running, his awareness of what's around him, his timing and those instinctive yet almost impossible to detect changes in body attitude tell you he knows the game.
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| Quote ="PopTart":2kmt1prsWhy did Evans go to Bradford first time round? I thought it was money and length of contract? What's changed now?.'"
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| Quote ="The Clan"I believe Evans was on loan from Huddersfield and therefore we may not have had the option to keep him.[/i'"
thing is, i know he will probably do a job but is he really who we should be looking at right now?
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"thing is, i know he will probably do a job but is he really who we should be looking at right now?'"
Depends what is coming in. The books need to be balanced and if the club have some quality signings in other positions then a cheap, experienced, underrated centre (who did well in his first stint at the club, did well at Bradford and when he has played has performed to a decent standard at Cas) would be just the ticket.
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"thing is, i know he will probably do a job but is he really who we should be looking at right now?'"
I agree with you James Evans will probably do a good job for any team that played for but I also agree with you that Wakefield Trinity should possibly be looking at different options.
Leeds Rhinos have a surplus young and promising three-quarters who are all rapidly reaching the stage where they need first-team football. Even with the departure of Lee Smith and the approaching retirement of Keith Senior, who may well play for another year, the rhinos can't accommodate everybody.
Mike Ratu, Jodie Broughton, Ben Jones Bishop, Ashley Gibson, Kallum Watkins etc
Wakefield Trinity should be looking at one or two of these players and trying to come to some agreement with the rhinos with the player themselves to bring them over and offer them first-team football.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Depends what is coming in. The books need to be balanced and if the club have some quality signings in other positions then a cheap, experienced, underrated centre (who did well in his first stint at the club, did well at Bradford and when he has played has performed to a decent standard at Cas) would be just the ticket.'"
when you put it like that its hard to argue with and i'd have no problems with evans himself he's steady away and seems committed to whichever cause he's with. if the price helps us strengthen in other areas then it serves a purpose.
as for the leeds 3/4's requiriing game time completely agree it's a good way forward, Ryan Atkins anyone
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| Quote ="The Clan"I agree with you James Evans will probably do a good job for any team that played for but I also agree with you that Wakefield Trinity should possibly be looking at different options.
Leeds Rhinos have a surplus young and promising three-quarters who are all rapidly reaching the stage where they need first-team football. Even with the departure of Lee Smith and the approaching retirement of Keith Senior, who may well play for another year, the rhinos can't accommodate everybody.
Mike Ratu, Jodie Broughton, Ben Jones Bishop, Ashley Gibson, Kallum Watkins etc
Wakefield Trinity should be looking at one or two of these players and trying to come to some agreement with the rhinos with the player themselves to bring them over and offer them first-team football.'"
You've no chance with watkins or jones-bishop both tied to long term deals and are definately the future of our back-line.
As for the others nothings been done deal wise yet so i wouldn't be surprised to see them leave although gibson seems to be in favour and ratu has been impressive for the resrve's.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"You've no chance with watkins or jones-bishop both tied to long term deals and are definately the future of our back-line.
As for the others nothings been done deal wise yet so i wouldn't be surprised to see them leave although gibson seems to be in favour and ratu has been impressive for the resrve's.'"
Could a season long loan be out of the question?? Any 'kid' with a future will learn so much more actually playing in a 1st team.
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| Danny Cowling form the academy should be our number 1 centre target, OK it may be for future years but he is one of many we should be looking at tieing up to a long term full time contract. Him and Annekin are awesome prospects, I don't think Annekin is far off being ready for a shot at first team already, a loose forward with pace, power, vision and a great rugby brain, he reminds me of a more skillful and brainier gareth hock, could be the answer to our problems at loose forward.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Danny Cowling form the academy should be our number 1 centre target, OK it may be for future years but he is one of many we should be looking at tieing up to a long term full time contract. Him and Annekin are awesome prospects, I don't think Annekin is far off being ready for a shot at first team already, a loose forward with pace, power, vision and a great rugby brain, he reminds me of a more skillful and brainier gareth hock, could be the answer to our problems at loose forward.'"
Danny is a cracking player and a cracking lad, he won't be too long, he's been learning the game for a while now and has a older head on those young shoulders.
Annekin is very very good, just a bit small.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Danny Cowling form the academy should be our number 1 centre target, OK it may be for future years but he is one of many we should be looking at tieing up to a long term full time contract. Him and Annekin are awesome prospects, I don't think Annekin is far off being ready for a shot at first team already, a loose forward with pace, power, vision and a great rugby brain, he reminds me of a more skillful and brainier gareth hock, could be the answer to our problems at loose forward.'" its not got unnoticed by the club looks like they have a problem with the amount coming through
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Danny is a cracking player and a cracking lad, he won't be too long, he's been learning the game for a while now and has a older head on those young shoulders.
:30pj9ssjAnnekin is very very good, just a bit small.[/
Wouldn't say he's small but even if he is the way he reads the game and the angles he runs more than make up for that, hes a solid defender too, looks to have the makings of a quality player to me.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Quote ="BIGAL1"Danny is a cracking player and a cracking lad, he won't be too long, he's been learning the game for a while now and has a older head on those young shoulders.
Annekin is very very good, just a bit small.[/quote
Wouldn't say he's small but even if he is the way he reads the game and the angles he runs more than make up for that, hes a solid defender too, looks to have the makings of a quality player to me.'" '"
No pace and can't read the game, defence is shaky but he may improve.
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| After watching the 18's for the first time on Saturday Annekin was one of the few that made me come away thinking our future was fairly bright if we can hold onto them.
Southernwood was head and shoulders above anything else on the field but thought Gibson (how quick??!!), Trout, Colleran, Wildie and Annekin were not that far behind.
In Southernwood & Annekin i think we definately have 2 who should be pushing in the near future with the rest not that far behind (development permitting)
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| Quote ="Ray Price Is God"After watching the 18's for the first time on Saturday Annekin was one of the few that made me come away thinking our future was fairly bright if we can hold onto them.
Southernwood was head and shoulders above anything else on the field but thought Gibson (how quick??!!), Trout, Colleran, Wildie and Annekin were not that far behind.
In Southernwood & Annekin i think we definately have 2 who should be pushing in the near future with the rest not that far behind (development permitting)'"
Got to agree, the other winger Dale Morton is a strong player too, hopefully we can keep hold of these lads , if we do the future looks very bright.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Could a season long loan be out of the question?? Any 'kid' with a future will learn so much more actually playing in a 1st team.'"
With the new rules on "dual registration" it could be a possibility although with smithy leaving Ben-jones-bishop is the heir apparent to webbs shirt so i'd be surrised if he went on loan.
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No pace and can't read the game, defence is shaky but he may improve.'" '"
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| Quote ="Westgate6"
Serious......Cant read the game, chris reads it very well and will definatley be pushing for a first team not exactly a slouchhhhhh either Great player Great lad'"
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"So, Whats getting talked about on the forums, in the stands and in the meida...and at the moment....ive picked up on the following thus far....
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Pitts - Leeds
Martin - Cas
Drew - Cas
Brough - Hudds
Blanch - Union
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Broughton - Leeds
Newton - Bradford
[u[iSeemingly out of favor/possibly on the way out[/i[/u
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Bibb - Hull Kingston
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Jeffries - rumours of serious financial trouble at bradford and him wanting to come back
Tickle - he's been mentioned.
Obst - it has been mentioned on here that a long serving overseas man will depart
so, potentially, 8 men departing, 5 incoming and seen as we promote youth at our club, maybe 3 to graduate to full time contracts...8 ins, 8 outs...
thoughts anyone?'"
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