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| Quote ="normycat"It won’t take them long to make the top division a closed shop. If and we probably will go down I think the chance of getting promoted would be very slim'"
Exactly this and right now, Trinity would never gain promotion with the state of our facilities and any lingering chance of getting the ground improved would disappear, as there would be even less cash swilling around than now.
Many fans of those clubs that are "relegated" would walk away and the game shrinks further and faster.
How long would it be before the 10 clubs went to 8 ,6, 4, 2 and then none.
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| Wouldn’t it be funny in 23 if this crazy proposal goes through if Wigan Warrington or Leeds had an injury hit season and finished bottom 4! The rules would be very quickly reversed
How about less funding with clubs not wasting money on overseas dross like many have done since 1996 and instead develop young British talent
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| Quote ="normycat"It won’t take them long to make the top division a closed shop. If and we probably will go down I think the chance of getting promoted would be very slim'"
Strictly-speaking, a 1 in 10 chance, although I suspect we would be one of the bigger clubs in a lower league.
The reality is that whether we are in it is in our hands, no one else's. Are we saying it wouldn't be fair because we will finish eleventh? I can't wait for that season. It sounds super-exciting.
Provided they maintain promotion and relegation, someone has to come up. One year, it will be us. The real issue will arise when one of the favourite teams goes down. In fact, the yo-yo teams will be us, Salford, Leigh, Huddersfield, Cas and Toulouse.
As it stands, with our performances over the last three seasons, our "success" (if you can call it that) has depended on a weak side coming up. That doesn't exactly puts bums on seats either.
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| We have a SL squad of players experienced at playing regularly at this level. The two teams promoted for the majority of their squads will not therefore we must take this opportunity to strengthen the current squad even if it pushes our financial resources. We get one season to get this right because if we fail and are relegated we all know that the team will fracture and we will be back to square one.
I wonder if we would return to part time like MC suggested before the Bradford game. It is time to speculate to accumulate, you never know this might generate additional revenue with increased interest and support. It is not the time for prudence because we cannot fail and it is still in our hands which makes a change from previous threats of relegation.
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| Leave it out scarlet speculate to accumulate and invest not on the agenda. Hi
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| Story in tomorrow’s RLExpress
Can they really want a 10 team SL?
Sky Sports is the driving force behind the proposal by the RFL to reorganise Super League from next season, League Express understands. The broadcaster, IN[/fimg
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| Well we have a great Academy set up time to blood them and get some experience in the first team and build the strength in depth.
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| Good advert on SKY for a 10 team SL .tonight
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| 10 team super league will be rubber stamped and will come into effect from 2023 .
we have 1 more year left in super league
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| Quote ="BOJ042"10 team super league will be rubber stamped and will come into effect from 2023 .
we have 1 more year left in super league'"
Effectively, I'm looking forward to see the resultant cannibalism as the 10 start to push for 8 and so on. To think dropping two teams is really going to make much of a difference to the quality of games.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Effectively, I'm looking forward to see the resultant cannibalism as the 10 start to push for 8 and so on. To think dropping two teams is really going to make much of a difference to the quality of games.'"
Ive seen and heard media reports that at the meeting last Friday, some club representatives put forward their own proposals for the restructuring. I would be interested to know if MC made a proposal, and what it was. Apparently, the next meeting is tomorrow Wednesday 4th, but these are not face to face, but on the zoom type thing.
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| 10 team there is more in my darts league lol. Absolute joke. . playing teams 3 times is boring and as for developing the game it will go backwards the good stuff been ruined
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Effectively, I'm looking forward to see the resultant cannibalism as the 10 start to push for 8 and so on. To think dropping two teams is really going to make much of a difference to the quality of games.'"
How will any club sell season tickets at a profitable cost for a nine home game season. I know there is talk of extra games such as a nines comp, but let’s face it, it’s just glitter wrapping paper on a cheap gift.
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| Will it have to be a vote from the Superleague teams and the championship and if so what percentage would it need? Some owners will be thinking it’s like Turkeys voting for Christmas.
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| Not sure if this has been mentioned but the first job is to get shut of dick and liddy baz and terry bloody rubbish
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| The whole restructure becomes neccessary because Sky think that RL is worth so little.
If dropping to 10 clubs in SL doesnt create a huge uplift in advertising revenues, what then ?
The whole problem with the game is lack of cash and investment.
Does a reduced top flight really encourage more investment into the sport and if so, why has this not happened with the cut from 16 clubs (in the old first division, down to 14 in SL and then when the game dropped to 12 - can anyone else spot the pattern ?
This is all about the bigger clubs protecting their own income and not developing and improving the sport.
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| The appeal for the championship clubs will be that they will get more money.
The appeal for the top clubs is that they will get games that will attract more fans.
The appeal for Sky is that the games may be better.
The appeal for the yo-yo clubs (and I include us in that group, as we will become one) is that the drop won't be as disastrous.
The crucial matter will be the voting rights. Ensure a three-quarter majority is required to vote in any change in voting rights and a two-thirds majority is required for any change in structure, and the top flight can only make it a closed shop by breaking away completely.
My suspicion is that any proposed restructure is to prevent them from doing so, because they feel they are being held back by the dinosaurs at the RFL, Rimmer and the like.
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| 10 league have no more supporter, it will just be the same fans who will go ,The Standed will not improve ,Sky are putting the best S L teams on now and the standed is poor .It will still be down witch club chairman is willing to lose the most cash to get the best team, And watching the same teams week in week out ,will mean a fall in viewing figures ,as is happening now
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| Quote ="alegend"10 league have no more supporter, it will just be the same fans who will go ,The Standed will not improve ,Sky are putting the best S L teams on now and the standed is poor .It will still be down witch club chairman is willing to lose the most cash to get the best team, And watching the same teams week in week out ,will mean a fall in viewing figures ,as is happening now'"
Fair point there bud.
Sky theoretically cherry pick the games that they want to show. Therefore, if the quality is poop, they should perhaps show some other clubs / games.
You would think that more clubs = more diversity of fixtures and a better choice for the broadcaster.
With just 10 clubs and say 3 live games every week, it will be the same clubs for 2 out of every 3 weeks
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| I see another meeting this week regarding the restructure. It is not surprising that self interest remains the stumbling block. It is as per usual all down to money with some clubs not wanting to dilute their share amongst 14 clubs. We now have a situation where I would guess some clubs want to go straight to a 10 team SL and others who prefer the original plan.
What it will boil down to is what Sky want which is two divisions of 10 clubs and for SL teams to decide the time scale. The latter will split along the lines of those who feel secure to be in the 10 and those that don’t. I don’t know if it needs to be a unanimous vote or a percentage of clubs, the latter would depend how many of the so called bigger clubs can convince fringe teams that they will be in the 10.
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| So it seems that SL club's have come to an agreement on this today, for now:
Super League clubs have voted in favour of retaining a 12-team competition next season, meaning promotion and relegation will go ahead as planned.
Clubs met again today to discuss the way forward for Super League with several proposals on the table, including expanding to 14 teams for the 2022 campaign.
However, Rugby League Live understands an agreement has been reached that will see the competition stay as it is, for next season at least.
There remains a strong appetite for two top divisions of 10 in 2023, although how that would be decided remains up in the air.
The immediate impact is on the bottom of Super League and the top of the Championship.
As planned, the Championship will run a top six play-off system that will conclude with the Million Pound Game to determine which club will replace the bottom side in Super League in 2022.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"So it seems that SL club's have come to an agreement on this today, for now:
Super League clubs have voted in favour of retaining a 12-team competition next season, meaning promotion and relegation will go ahead as planned.
Clubs met again today to discuss the way forward for Super League with several proposals on the table, including expanding to 14 teams for the 2022 campaign.
However, Rugby League Live understands an agreement has been reached that will see the competition stay as it is, for next season at least.
There remains a strong appetite for two top divisions of 10 in 2023, although how that would be decided remains up in the air.
The immediate impact is on the bottom of Super League and the top of the Championship.
As planned, the Championship will run a top six play-off system that will conclude with the Million Pound Game to determine which club will replace the bottom side in Super League in 2022.'"
When they do decide whatever restructuring plan to use, I really do hope it works for the game as a whole. The state of the game at the moment is at the lowest I’ve ever seen. We, as a sport are in the last chance saloon. Just make option anyway.
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| So after several meetings they’ve voted for the system that they previously thought wasn’t good enough (which is why they had the meetings in the first place) and the same one that Sky thinks isn’t producing enough good games. How very Rugby League.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"When they do decide whatever restructuring plan to use, I really do hope it works for the game as a whole. The state of the game at the moment is at the lowest I’ve ever seen. We, as a sport are in the last chance saloon. Just make option anyway.'"
Sorry, the just make option, should read just my opinion,
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| Quote ="homme vaste"So it seems that SL club's have come to an agreement on this today, for now:
Super League clubs have voted in favour of retaining a 12-team competition next season, meaning promotion and relegation will go ahead as planned.
Clubs met again today to discuss the way forward for Super League with several proposals on the table, including expanding to 14 teams for the 2022 campaign.
However, Rugby League Live understands an agreement has been reached that will see the competition stay as it is, for next season at least.
There remains a strong appetite for two top divisions of 10 in 2023, although how that would be decided remains up in the air.
The immediate impact is on the bottom of Super League and the top of the Championship.
As planned, the Championship will run a top six play-off system that will conclude with the Million Pound Game to determine which club will replace the bottom side in Super League in 2022.'"
Utter crap then, basically more of the same next season till they can work a why of how to get out of the next thing and then I really pray that Sky pull the plug because they have already said what is out there now is garbage, all the clubs currently in Superleague are doing is trying to keep as much of the money for themselves, hence how Leigh got shafted when they came up to replace Toronto. The greed of the top clubs will eventually kill the sport sending it back to part time.
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