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| Exactly m62. Whoever gets the job gets a clean slate and my support. That includes agar goulding whoever. I might not particularly like the appointment but as I say I'll give the new man my support
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Exactly m62. Whoever gets the =#FF0000Jon gets a clean slate and my support. That includes agar goulding whoever. I might not particularly like the appointment but as I say I'll give the new man my support'" american slang for toilet are you even happy they clean our bogs
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| Hull looked good tonight, maybe Agar is the man for us
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| Hull looked very well coached tonight
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| It was was as much cas being shocking as hull being good. Still no to Agar from me.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"All though not my preferred choice as coach if it was agar then id support him and give him a chance. Goulding would just make us a laughing stock. What about agar with cummins as assistant? Who ever it is I'll still support the mighty trin but hopefully AG will take the best option available to move our great club forward'"
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| Clean slate if it's agar or whoever
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| cummins will be appointed very soon so forget agar
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when will it be anounced im fed up we need a coach to bring new ideas not any tom dick or harry or bobby i think ag as more oil in his lamp just to set just anybody onposting.php? ... &t=506787#
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when will it be anounced im fed up we need a coach to bring new ideas not any tom dick or harry or bobby i think ag as more oil in his lamp just to set just anybody onposting.php? ... &t=506787#
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Hull looked very well coached tonight'"
Do you mean they arrived on good time prior to game via coach.?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Like I said, he isn't good enough to get us from lower parts of the play-offs to genuine challengers. That's what we need, you just need to go from basement dwellers to pushing the top 8.'"
I was cheering for Hull tonight but after reading that tripe I now wish you'd lost.
Why should we be just happy with pushing the top 8 ?
You have no more right to be challenging than us, so you can take your ill formed opinion and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"
Wakefield, for me, are one of the worst teams in the league. I think Agar can take you from basement dwellers to play-off makers with the right backing. Further than that, I don't think so.'"
To think I was cheering for you tonight againsy Cas. Won't be doing in play-offs. Wakey have gone through a lot of adversity over the past 4 or 5 years, we are now on the up and not happy with just making the top 8.
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| I'll still support hull in play offs don't mind them at all. Why let one knob spoil their reputation? Like both hull clubs they're very passionate and always create a good atmosphere
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"The trust membership stands at just over 200, out of 5000 regular attendances i'd say thats pretty poor'"
I think if all 5000 want to be members of the Supporters Trust, you're right, it's poor. But the're fans who, like me, have no interest at all in joing the Trust. I personally never want to have any input into how the club is run. I go and watch Trinity because they are my team, and I love watching Rugby League. Andrew Glover has bought the club, and it's his call how he runs it, just as it was Teds in my opinion. There are I times I may not agree with what the club do, but I believe by becoming involved in the Trust I would be taking the enjoyment out of what I am actually there for in the first place, which is to watch Wakefield Trinity play Rugby League.
PS Even if Agar is coach next season (or even Goulding or Schofield) I will still go and watch. They may not be my choice, but I won't be watching what they do as I will be too busy focusing on what's happening on the pitch.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I think if all 5000 want to be members of the Supporters Trust, you're right, it's poor. But the're fans who, like me, have no interest at all in joing the Trust. I personally never want to have any input into how the club is run. I go and watch Trinity because they are my team, and I love watching Rugby League. Andrew Glover has bought the club, and it's his call how he runs it, just as it was Teds in my opinion. There are I times I may not agree with what the club do, but I believe by becoming involved in the Trust I would be taking the enjoyment out of what I am actually there for in the first place, which is to watch Wakefield Trinity play Rugby League.
PS Even if Agar is coach next season (or even Goulding or Schofield) I will still go and watch. They may not be my choice, but I won't be watching what they do as I will be too busy focusing on what's happening on the pitch.'"
Some very good points there especially the last bit.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I was cheering for Hull tonight but after reading that tripe I now wish you'd lost.
Why should we be just happy with pushing the top 8 ?
You have no more right to be challenging than us, so you can take your ill formed opinion and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.'"
The fact we spend nearly twice as much on our playing staff as you do pretty much means what he said
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| Quote ="Fordy"I was cheering for Hull tonight but after reading that tripe I now wish you'd lost.
Why should we be just happy with pushing the top 8 ?
You have no more right to be challenging than us, so you can take your ill formed opinion and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.'"
Don't be wet. I don't think you should be 'happy pushing the top 8' in the long term, but in the short-term I think you would be right? You've got possibly the worst team in the league on paper and I'm not sure if you've got player's signed up for next year or even if you'll use the full cap? Are you saying you wouldn't be happy pushing the top 8 next year?
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| Old_Faithful_IAKW I'd change that DP because it ain't ever gunna happen mate.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Old_Faithful_IAKW I'd change that DP because it ain't ever gunna happen mate.'"
Who is going to be the new coach then?
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| Why would a Hull fan who seems to think Agar is okay have a picture of Agar in a Wakey top as his profile picture? Sounds to me like he is trying to drum up support for him in Wakey.
Don't want to burst your covert bubble, but I don't think spies during the Cold War wore huge badges on their macs that said "I am a secret agent". You need to rethink your strategy. Harry Palmer you are not.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Why would a Hull fan who seems to think Agar is okay have a picture of Agar in a Wakey top as his profile picture? Sounds to me like he is trying to drum up support for him in Wakey.
Don't want to burst your covert bubble, but I don't think spies during the Cold War wore huge badges on their macs that said "I am a secret agent". You need to rethink your strategy. Harry Palmer you are not.'"
Maybe I'm a double agent .
In all seriousness, I hope Agar comes to you - I also hope Sam Obst comes to you. That's not to say I don't rate either of them at all, I just don't rate their ability to lead a team into the top 4 - which we are realistically aiming to do. I didn't mean to sound as condescending towards Wakefield as I probably came across. The fact is though, you're on an awful run with a pretty poor team and I think even the most optimistic of you would be happy pushing for the play-offs next season.
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Maybe I'm a double agent
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In all seriousness, I hope Agar comes to you - I also hope Sam Obst comes to you. That's not to say I don't rate either of them at all, I just don't rate their ability to lead a team into the top 4 - which we are realistically aiming to do. I didn't mean to sound as condescending towards Wakefield as I probably came across. The fact is though, you're on an awful run with a pretty poor team and I think even the most optimistic of you would be happy pushing for the play-offs next season.'"
I'd settle for 8th next year. Our squad isn't going to be drastically different, and so 8th would be a big improvement, and a building block.
I think the difference with us now for the future is that before Glover came, every year was just another struggle, with just the hope of a new ground making a difference. Now, with some financial clout and a vision, with hopefully a new ground, 8th won't be acceptable in six years.
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| OF you've got it wrong again. We were awfully run and yes this term we've got the worst team in the league. However we're now run much more professionally and have a great marketing and commercial team, wev've made some useful signings for next season with more to come and we'll be spending much closer to the cap at 1.3 million this coming season so hopefully we'll be nuch closer to the likes of FC KR Leeds etc but still a little short of Wigan Saints Wire but hopefully we'll be competing in every game.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"OF you've got it wrong again. We were awfully run and yes this term we've got the worst team in the league. However we're now run much more professionally and have a great marketing and commercial team, wev've made some useful signings for next season with more to come and we'll be spending much closer to the cap at 1.3 million this coming season so hopefully we'll be nuch closer to the likes of FC KR Leeds etc but still a little short of Wigan Saints Wire but hopefully we'll be competing in every game.'"
I hope you do, It's only good for the game to have more teams spending close to the cap (aslong as they can do it sustainably).
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| Quote ="vastman"I agree. Don't you think everyone who has ever got involved thought like that. You won't accept my word for it I know but it's just not that simple.
If running Leeds were a game it would be chess - so long as you don't make a wrong move you can't lose.
Trinity is like snakes and ladders it so random, I don't think I really need to explain any further.
I'm sure you think you could fix it with a plan and a spreadsheet but you couldn't....you really couldn't.
I now prepare myself for the standard allegations of being a Ted poodle,pessimist and anti AG and all his family.'"
I like the analogy of snakes and ladders it sums up Wakefield Trinity perfectly.
Like all dice games, they are totally a game of chance, where as games such as chess are games of strategy.
Spreadsheets and plans are pointless in a game of chance but they can be useful in games of strategy, but they are without question important in running a business.
This is where the old Wakefield and the Wakefield we have currently differ.
We have the beginings of a good plan, for the plan to develop further and ultimately propel us where we want to be, we need a little catalyst to go with the plan and the spreadsheets.
That catalyst could be the appointment of some stand out players, a quality coach, good news on Newmarket or all three.
Get them right and we will generate the king of interest and cash needed to put the plans into action.
AG has a plan, he also has pledged money for ground improvements and squad development, we need to get the catalyst bit right to fire the imagination of a previously apathetic/disenfranchised public involved.
The drive for STs will provide valuable cash up front for the club, which will hopefully drive the plan.
The difference is stark, to the dark days of the last few years in particular, as we never had a plan, only to fire fight.
The club must continue to get things right in term of creating a optimistic future for the supporters of this club, continue to develop income streams, but the fans must buy into it, and frankly if 2500 supporters aren't prepared to pay £7.63 a game to watch top flight rugby, AG is wasting his time and his money.
At the moment I'd say it's definitely more like a game of chess than snakes and ladders, accepting that we may be starting without a few key pieces, but more than we have had in previous years.
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