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| Everybody is frustrated about the lack of progress. God knows I must be up there in the top 50 myself but hard though it is to prevent myself venting my feelings, I would not for one minute want to jeopardise all the endless work put in by everyone who is directly involved in trying to move the mountain and get the stadium.
In the meantime I am perfectly happy to go to our spiritual home next season, I have many happy memories there and I for one (though I know it's unlikely) wish we could stay there.
Put the stadium to the back of your minds and look forward to summer rugby in February!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"The frustration of the whole episode just rolls on and on the one thing that drives everybody crazy is the lack of updates I can't remember the last update we have had,some information would great'"
No what you're after is not updates what you seem to want is someone to manufacture you some good news regardless of whether it's true or not.
There have been plenty of updates but most are not positive - tough - that's how it is. Truth is we can't afford to build our own stadium and thus want someone else to do it - that was never going to be easy and still isn't.
The bargaining chips we have on our side are limited thus we have to tread very carefully which in the real world usually means very slowly.
So sad though it is that you can't contain your frustration or your sense of entitlement I'm happy to let those involved get on with us and let us know what we need to know when we need to know it.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"No sorry its time now to give news yes or no b4 the new year!!'"
I think if you read IAs reply post it tells you everything you need to know. And while I think the reply from the council will tell the trust little. They will know where they stand, and will be able to move forward from that....
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"As a mere distant but interested observer the 'it's nothing to do with us squire' stance of the WMDC does my head in. I don't know how those directly involved keep their sanity (what's that? they don't? Oh OK.)
As Jackie Brown suggested, I think we need to up the ante somehow. I'm sure someone from WMDC keeps tabs on this very forum (and other fans' outlets).
What I'd suggest is that if we are even considering the possibility of a judicial review we should be raising the funds now, so that if/when the time comes we're ready to go. I'm sure WMDC's current plan is just to do nothing in the hope that we'll eventually just go away. If we have the funds in an ESCROW? account or something, we can call their bluff and say to the LPA 'we're ready to take this further, are you?' It will also give some focus for the common fans and increase publicity for the issue. We may even get wider support if the council suggest they want to fight the case using council taxpayers' money.
Should action not be required, or the case is won and we're awarded costs, the funds could be returned.'"
I agree with that coco.. 50Gs is a lot of money to find if the trust decides to go down that route.... And that's if we come out the other side on top! Double it if we loose
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| As a Cas fan and believe it or not a wildcats fan (except for 2 or more games a year) I think the stadium issues are ridiculous and a awful lot of debate and even falling out between supporters has taken place.
I still read the posts and see the same conversations.
For what it is worth the people who have worked from the start with great resolve are still their and deserve credit and all the others who ok are frustrated seem only to be council bashers which really does not help.
It would be helpful if those who are attending meetings were left to focus on the job in hand and report back every now and then.
Just saying, but good look for the future.
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| I've not really paid much attention to the new stadium proposal but having just read all of the responses to this thread I'd love to know if there is any way us simple fans can help out? Do you need help with fundraising or support for publicity?
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| Quote ="bentleberry"I've not really paid much attention to the new stadium proposal but having just read all of the responses to this thread I'd love to know if there is any way us simple fans can help out? Do you need help with fundraising or support for publicity?'"
My hunch and that's all it is, is that there'll be some sort of call to arms in the next twelve months, you'll then notice all the doom mongers blend into the shadows.
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| Quote ="JINJER"My hunch and that's all it is, is that there'll be some sort of call to arms in the next twelve months, you'll then notice all the doom mongers blend into the shadows.'"
I can't see the point in people being negative about it, the guys at the trust are fighting an uphill battle against a big corporation and a seemingly corrupt local government. They deserve the highest praise and I'd love to be able to support them. I hope you're right that we will be called up on soon
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| Good man, glad to hear it.
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| Thank you for the offer of assistance. We are hoping to enter a new phase in this process, one which could be pivotal.
Wishing us luck will do for now!
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| Good luck ....happy now ????
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| Lets all be realistic, this is never going to happen. Lets all stop pipe dreaming and move on. We need a solution and NM certainly isn't it. I don't think BV is long term either, I don't personally know the answer, all I know is that NM will not happen, how long has this dragged on now, wake up and smell the coffee
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| Quote ="TheRealist"Lets all be realistic, this is never going to happen. Lets all stop pipe dreaming and move on. We need a solution and NM certainly isn't it. I don't think BV is long term either, I don't personally know the answer, all I know is that NM will not happen, how long has this dragged on now, wake up and smell the coffee'"
That's what we need, someone like you to hit it with a sledge hammer
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| Quote ="TheRealist"Lets all be realistic, this is never going to happen. Lets all stop pipe dreaming and move on. We need a solution and NM certainly isn't it. I don't think BV is long term either, I don't personally know the answer, all I know is that NM will not happen, how long has this dragged on now, wake up and smell the coffee'"
I'm inclined to agree about Newmarket, but I do think it could lead to some kind of compromise which would hopefully see Belle Vue redeveloped.
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| No point in beating round the bush. I admire the fighters but eventually they will tire of 'flogging a dead horse' and move on. Lets get a realistic solution sorted instead of dreaming about what could of been....
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| Quote ="TheRealist"No point in beating round the bush. I admire the fighters but eventually they will tire of 'flogging a dead horse' and move on. Lets get a realistic solution sorted instead of dreaming about what could of been....'"
How many times do the "fighters" need to explain to you that without this fight there will not be any solution - unless you're going to donate several million pounds to the cause.
This fight is the only thing that has a chance of us getting any kind of financial input from outside (albeit that getting anything at the minute is quite hard work). There sure as hell isn't anyone else associated with the cub that has any chance of even part funding us a new or redeveloped stadium.
It is frustrating and has been dragging on a long time but it is a fight that must continue or we definitely end up with nothing.
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| Quote ="TheRealist"No point in beating round the bush. I admire the fighters but eventually they will tire of 'flogging a dead horse' and move on. Lets get a realistic solution sorted instead of dreaming about what could of been....'"
And what would your realistic solution be eh? Show me it and where you would get the money from and I might, just might, listen to what you have to say. In the meantime a big GOOD LUCK lads and for nearly all of us on here you are heroes.
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| I don't have a realistic solution but then again, I am not paid or employed to do that, but if I was on the BoD i for sure would be doing something to ensure the longevity of the club and not just living in dream land. If NM is up and running within 10 years I will donate £2000 to a charity of your choice!!!
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| Quote ="TheRealist"I don't have a realistic solution but then again, I am not paid or employed to do that, but if I was on the BoD i for sure would be doing something to ensure the longevity of the club and not just living in dream land. If NM is up and running within 10 years I will donate £2000 to a charity of your choice!!!'"
A pattern is emerging... someone with an agenda against MC/CB.
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| No Agenda, nor would I state any opinions on MC/CB, this is pre their regime and we are still dreaming. I do have views on the future of the club but wouldn't think expressing them on here would be of any great benefit..... to anyone!!!
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| Don't you just love it when a newly joined member comes posting and it's all negative, there does seem to be a lot of it about
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| Its not all negative, just saying this stadium plan goes on and on and nothing ever happens. I actually believe that they are some positives for the upcoming season, something that I couldn't find last year, I am not publicly slating anyone, if I was to slate, I would take it up with whomever I felt needed slating personally not on a public bulletin board. As I say I actually see positives for next year, unfortunatley the stadia or lack of isn't one of them. And just because I am new to this doesn't strip me of my right to state an opinion.....
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| Quote ="TheRealist"I do have views on the future of the club but wouldn't think expressing them on here would be of any great benefit..... to anyone!!!'"
Why would your views about the future of the club be of no benefit to anyone on here, or anywhere else for that matter assuming they were realistic and achievable.
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| Like others have said. If it weren't for the unpaid volunteers pushing for NM, we would be left with zilch. Give up on NM and you give up on any chance, no matter a slim, of some sort of resolution. Whether that be a a new stadium at NM, an improved main stand at BV or something else. That's the real situation.
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| No retreat no surrender
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