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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree. The only place we need an addition is at prop for me. The rest is fine assuming we retain who we have.
I'm ok if PJ goes as his position would be under pressure with a new prop, and then James would be the 5th
After your 17 you name I would retain
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=#FF0000I'd have to question keeping John, but happy if he sees out his contract. I'd love to see him put the others under pressure. Can easily move Sykes to other positions if John picks up the challenge.
The new kid from Hull added would be a decent sized squad. Depends how much we loan to Championship to keep them fit.
One thing that is important is to keep both Aiton and Ellis for rotation. I'm not sure any other club would be as blessed as us in that area.'"
Agar may have a tough call on this one, is Isaac showing him enough to stick with him hoping that he will come good and repay the faith shown in him, or will it be time for a parting of the ways based on the coach wanting his quota players week in week out on the pitch?
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| Does Mellars stay off quota for the entirety of his contract or was it just for the first year after the Crusaders folded??
To have 3 quota players not guarenteed a spot seems a little crazy to me?
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| was Moto Tony on quota?
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"Does Mellars stay off quota for the entirety of his contract or was it just for the first year after the Crusaders folded??
To have 3 quota players not guarenteed a spot seems a little crazy to me?'"
Must be entirety of contract - no way we'd have given him 3 years if he was going to count on the quota for next year
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"was Moto Tony on quota?'"
Will he have been off the overseas quota due his time here but still on the non fed trained quota?
Or something like that!!!!
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| Im Suprised to see Sean O'Loughlins name still on this list of OOC players, I wonder whats happening with him?
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Borrowed from the Hull and Bulls forum -
=#FF0000Assuming it is correct, there are not a lot of good quality players available at the moment. I'd rather keep what we have and maybe get Fielden from the list below (maybe....)
OOC players by club;
Bradford Bulls
Chev Walker, Manase Manuokafoa, Shaun Ainscough, James Donaldson, Jarrod Sammut, Daniel Addy, Jason Crookes, Liam McAvoy, Karl Pryce, Phil Joseph. (Kopout?)
Catalan Dragons
Sebastien Raguin, Steve Menzies.
Huddersfield Giants
Adam Walker, Tommy Lee, Scott Moore.
Hull FC
Will Sharp, Mike Burnett, Liam Cunningham, Lewis Brown, Ryan McGoldrick.
Hull Kingston Rovers
Louis Sherrife, Nick Johnson, Chris Heil, Aaron Ollet, Dave Peterson
London Broncos
Ben Bolger.
Salford City Reds
Luke Adamson, Vinnie Anderson, Josh Veivers.
St Helens
Andrew Dixon, Scott Hale
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Paul Johnson.
Warrington Wolves
Rhys Williams, Lee Mitchell
Widnes Vikings
John Kite, Kurt Haggerty.
Wigan Warriors
Stuart Fielden, Stefan Marsh, Joe Mellor, Chris Tuson, Sean O'Loughlin
Also, NRL OOC list can be found here:
www.zerotackle.com.au/rugby-leag ... tion-2012/
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Borrowed from the Hull and Bulls forum -
=#FF0000Assuming it is correct, there are not a lot of good quality players available at the moment. I'd rather keep what we have and maybe get Fielden from the list below (maybe....)
OOC players by club;
Bradford Bulls
Chev Walker, Manase Manuokafoa, Shaun Ainscough, James Donaldson, Jarrod Sammut, Daniel Addy, Jason Crookes, Liam McAvoy, Karl Pryce, Phil Joseph. (Kopout?)
Catalan Dragons
Sebastien Raguin, Steve Menzies.
Huddersfield Giants
Adam Walker, Tommy Lee, Scott Moore.
Hull FC
Will Sharp, Mike Burnett, Liam Cunningham, Lewis Brown, Ryan McGoldrick.
Hull Kingston Rovers
Louis Sherrife, Nick Johnson, Chris Heil, Aaron Ollet, Dave Peterson
London Broncos
Ben Bolger.
Salford City Reds
Luke Adamson, Vinnie Anderson, Josh Veivers.
St Helens
Andrew Dixon, Scott Hale
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Paul Johnson.
Warrington Wolves
Rhys Williams, Lee Mitchell
Widnes Vikings
John Kite, Kurt Haggerty.
Wigan Warriors
Stuart Fielden, Stefan Marsh, Joe Mellor, Chris Tuson, Sean O'Loughlin
Also, NRL OOC list can be found here:
www.zerotackle.com.au/rugby-leag ... tion-2012/
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| Can't say i'd be that arrised about many of that lot
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| Quote ="Schunter"Can't say i'd be that arrised about many of that lot'"
There is probably a reaosn they are out of contract
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| Menzies has signed a new deal and i would imagine O'Loughlin is sorted so only person i like the look of is Tuson, but mainly cos he is young and is handy with his fists.
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| Wouldn't have minded Manase Manuokafoa but I believe he's staying at the bulls.
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| The Kite at Widnes on that list? If so an absolute mountain but not been great for them. If you mean Brent Kite at Manly, i will pick him up from the airport myself. Free of charge!
Stefan Marsh is a good, young British outside back who everytime i have seen him for Widnes this year has looked decent. A bit suspect defensively (as are most young british backs it would appear) but very handy with ball in hand. I was hoping we would try and get him on loan at the start of the season prior to him going to Widnes. I would presume they will have first dibs should Wigan choose not to retain him but if not, i would be happy with him.
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| Quote ="El Rey"anybody know anything about Kite ?'"
the widnes kite? Yer hes crap
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| Quote ="LG83"the widnes kite? Yer hes crap'"
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| I can't see much on that list that would be an improvement on what we already have.
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| Hopefully we'll keep what we've got but also Manase Manuakafoa would be a good addition as would Brent Kite who is 31 out of contract at Manly, an ex-Aussie international, both are big and powerful runners.
Think only a marque signing such as a very big powerful NRL prop/pack leader along with some real pace on wing/centre would really improve a quality squad that Agar has already built.
May need still to lose some that haven't really performed this season such as John & Southern to ensure a balanced player rosta.
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| Would be tempted to enquire about Moi Moi. Eels finished bottom this year but he's still stood out. He would give us the grunt up front and frighten opposition.
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| Manuakafoa would be one of the robust forwards we are looking for, could ideally do with two to beef up the pack which has performed admirably this year.
I like the look of Ainscough from Bradford.
As for the speedy back, fox and cockayne have been pretty good and shared 30 trys this season so would be happy for that to remain.
Collis is showing quality in flashes and hopefully we will see more next year. Lee Smith I like but can't help think he would go well at Full back.
I thought Lynne had officially signed, guess he's a project and direct replacement for Hyde/Tony.
All that said I trust in Agar to get the best out of whoever signs.
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| Quote ="Captain Library"Me and my brother just persuaded Eorl Crabtree to come via Twitter.'"
Would love him, he's awesome!!
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| Maybe smith will be FB next season because I have not heard a squeak about us trying to retain Mathers. Anyone got any info on Southern, John and Mathers?
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| Agar has said in loads of interviews that we are wanting to retain Mathers, the sticking point is what he is asking for.
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| get ya season tickets chaps if aint already got one, 2013 year of the Wildcats
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Agar has said in loads of interviews that we are wanting to retain Mathers, the sticking point is what he is asking for.'"
Cas can always pay him then or perhaps another deal for Cas to contribute to his salary
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