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| Quote ="TheRealisticOne"Haha. Carter the saviour. More like carter the narcissist. If people (knowlegable people) within the club dont say yes mr carter, no mr carter and nod their head in approval then they are out. He is destroying this club and people need to realise it. The man is so full of bull poop he should have a slurry tank in the car park. Smith, Hudson Flatman to name but a few that couldn't work with him. He doesn't know what he is doing and the sonner he admits that the better. And for the record I have joined this forum to express an opinion, nothing else.'"
So TRO, when I look at your other posts, you refer to your post on the Hull KR forum as "WE".
Makes me think you are trolling rather than joining the forum to express opinion.
This is your warning.
You are way beyond AUP in your posts. I suggest you read the AUP again before your next post.
You'll be taking a rest if not.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So TRO, when I look at your other posts, you refer to your post on the Hull KR forum as "WE".
Makes me think you are trolling rather than joining the forum to express opinion.
This is your warning.
You are way beyond AUP in your posts. I suggest you read the AUP again before your next post.
You'll be taking a rest if not.'"
My mistake. You talk about "US" as Wakefield on the Salford forum when you say you'd rather have Koucash.
You really are spreading the Carter word around.
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| Opinion is fine TRO. You can opinionate to your hearts content. That's what the forum is for.
Quite happy for you to disagree with whoever you like too. Me included. Just be careful of writing an actual accusation about someone please.
That goes for everyone else too. We've been pretty good over the SmithCaterGate. Let's keep it under control.
There are clearly two sides wanting to back their man. It's unlikely we'll know the real facts and conversations and even those that do probably only know one side. Let's not fall out over this.......any more than normal.
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| What's the new catchphrase? #UNITYPRIDEPASSION ?
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Not seeing any accusations of irregularities there, just a lot of criticism and a pop about him wanting his money back. To be honest if i was MC i would flog everything and everyone i could, pay off as much of the loans as possible and bugger off into the sunset, save myself the hassle. Can't say i overly like the bloke but i wouldn't blame him if he did, he must think is it all worthwhile on a regular basis.'"
I'm not a fan of Mr Carter myself but having said that I'm not one of his critics either, he is what he is, the chairman of the club I've supported for a couple of years or so, the problem he has is one of he can't win, for every dozen fans he pleases he upsets a dozen also, so on the basis that I haven't a clue what's going on at the club unlike others what's in a similar position to me If I've nothing good to say about him I say nothing as against some what work on the principle if there's no news I'll invent some.
As you say your no fan of Mr Carter you made that plainly obvious by defending somebody whose post was clearly made to try an embarrass the club, just my opinion of course.
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| Quote ="TheRealisticOne"hahaha, sorry i dont agree with the running of the club, maybe I should just bow down to the MC regime and tell them what a great job they are doing.'"
I've not agreed with how the club has been run for a while now so like you decided to start posting , I've also been accused of being someone else posting under a new name by columbo sorry I mean chisset lol . One thing is for sure I bet anyone on here that MC announces in the next week that he has purchased the ground back . A nice little smoke screen to take people's minds off what is happening oh and then we will ditch the Wildcats name and revert to Trinity . Oh the man is so great they should give him the key to the city
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| Quote ="housecat"I've not agreed with how the club has been run for a while now so like you decided to start posting , I've also been accused of being someone else posting under a new name by columbo sorry I mean chisset lol . One thing is for sure I bet anyone on here that MC announces in the next week that he has purchased the ground back . A nice little smoke screen to take people's minds off what is happening oh and then we will ditch the Wildcats name and revert to Trinity . Oh the man is so great they should give him the key to the city'"
I'm no Carter lover but if he actually did those two things, wouldn't you be happy? I would.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I'm not a fan of Mr Carter myself but having said that I'm not one of his critics either, he is what he is, the chairman of the club I've supported for a couple of years or so, the problem he has is one of he can't win, for every dozen fans he pleases he upsets a dozen also, so on the basis that I haven't a clue what's going on at the club unlike others what's in a similar position to me If I've nothing good to say about him I say nothing as against some what work on the principle if there's no news I'll invent some.
As you say your no fan of Mr Carter you made that plainly obvious by defending somebody whose post was clearly made to try an embarrass the club, just my opinion of course.'"
If defending him is pointing out that he actually didn't do what you accused him if then yes i guess i did. Did i agree with all his post, no i didn't. But he didn't accused MC of irregularities either.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"If defending him is pointing out that he actually didn't do what you accused him if then yes i guess i did. Did i agree with all his post, no i didn't. But he didn't accused MC of irregularities either.'"
Quote ="chissitt"Nothing wrong with opinions, but yours above is not an opinion but an insinuation that maybe the chairman might be involved in some financial irregularities regarding monies owed to him by the club, as it's his club it's his business'"
Subtle difference there squire, but don't let that stop you
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| Quote ="chissitt"Subtle difference there squire, but don't let that stop you
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He didn't insinuate it either but hey, you carry on believing it, i couldn't care less to be honest.
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| What's irregular about making directors loans that appear on the books, and are due for repayment? That's perfectly normal.
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Unfortunately some of our so called fans aren't "perfectly normal!"
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| Quote ="housecat"I've not agreed with how the club has been run for a while now so like you decided to start posting , I've also been accused of being someone else posting under a new name by columbo sorry I mean chisset lol . One thing is for sure I bet anyone on here that MC announces in the next week that he has purchased the ground back . A nice little smoke screen to take people's minds off what is happening oh and then we will ditch the Wildcats name and revert to Trinity . Oh the man is so great they should give him the key to the city'"
Just for ref are you saying MC is buying it or that it is going to be owned by the Community Trust??
If he does both of those things, i will be more than happy. The ground especially, is something that neither of the previous regimes have managed. Imagine owning the ground you play in. There's a novelty.
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| So we get back our ground meaning we can't be evicted, and stay at our home, then we return to being Trinity? I'll have more smoke screens like that please.
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| I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
That's even more cynical than I can manage, since the potential to buy BV has been talked about for months - pre-dating BS' decision to take his bat home by quite some margin.
If MC has an opportunity to buy BV and the Superbowl, propped up by hush money from YCP, then power to his elbow; it makes all of his hard work and investment worthwhile - he can either oversee the redevelopment of the site and improve our long term prospects, or flog it with something to actually flog and recoup his investment, both of which seem reasonable. If I was in that position, I certainly wouldn't be well-disposed towards a hostile take-over by some Johnny Come Lately Aussie with no stake in the club either - it's the worst possible time to consider selling, given that the value of the asset could be about to increase exponentially.
Despite what some people might think, MC is not Bruce Wayne.
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| I believe Carter has stated that the trust will be the owners of the ground, if all goes to plan.
He alone certainly has not suddenly' pulled a rabbit out of a hat'. Swag, the trust and the club etc have been working on this to try and resurrect something from the Newmarket (to put it mildly) let down. It seems to me that people who have their own agendas will never be satisfied and actually revel in the more negative side of things.
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| Hahaha so your telling me that Carter tells everyone everything as soon as it happens . Get real he announces things when it suits him believe me . Just like last year . We were never going to leave our home he just had people believing it so that when it was announced we were staying he became a hero .
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
Regarding your points," the timing couldn't have been much more perfect for MC", A lot of work has gone into the new ground/Newmarket project, this isn't a rabbit out of the hat moment, it's just a complete coincidence, he must shake his head when he sees the cynicism over possible good news as being a way of getting people "back onside".
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| Quote ="housecat"Hahaha so your telling me that Carter tells everyone everything as soon as it happens . Get real he announces things when it suits him believe me . Just like last year . We were never going to leave our home he just had people believing it so that when it was announced we were staying he became a hero .'"
Jeez, he worked a blinder, he called the BOI bluff and got the club a reduction in rent. And yes, of course he doesn't tell everyone as soon as it happens, what business does?
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| Quote ="JINJER"So we get back our ground meaning we can't be evicted, and stay at our home, then we return to being Trinity? I'll have more smoke screens like that please.'"
And another rent reduction?
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
So you think buying back the ground and possibly Super Bowl has become a possibility overnight.
As for the reduced rent we achieved by threatening to leave, I'm totally astounded, actually no I'm not, that you see that as a negative.
I'm glad there are some sensible fans out there, voicing their support and expressing a sensible opinion otherwise I wouldn't fault Carter and Co if they said stuff it and walked away.
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