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| Quote ="PopTart"We haven't got any quota places left though.'"
I thought Vagana had been off quota and we were rumoured to be chasing a forward from Aus?
Is that not the case? Or have we signed someone.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We haven't got any quota places left though.'"
If they want a player they’ll make a quota space available one way or another.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We haven't got any quota places left though.'"
Who are our confirmed on contract quota players next year?
Lino
Rodwell
Uelle
Atoni
Vagana
Walmsley?
Bain?
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| Vagana is federation trained same as Lachlan lam
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| So isn’t on quota
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| And when I was talking to rodwells agent he said we were definitely looking for another overseas back row
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Rumoured for Hudds but imo would be a good signing. Be very surprised if he’s still available.
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Rumoured for Hudds but imo would be a good signing. Be very surprised if he’s still available.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Vagana is federation trained same as Lachlan lam'"
On what basis is he Federation trained?
I appreciate he was probably born in the UK but he probably left when his dad retired when he would have been 7 or 8. Thought the rules were more robust than that.
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| Maybe. I liked King when with us last time and he can play all over the pack but I'm not sure he's starting.
He does the basics really well so maybe we need one of those.
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That's from last month mate, the point still stands though.
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That's from last month mate, the point still stands though.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That's from last month mate, the point still stands though.'"
I wonder if alegend included him in the average signings?
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| Quote ="jonh"On what basis is he Federation trained?
I appreciate he was probably born in the UK but he probably left when his dad retired when he would have been 7 or 8. Thought the rules were more robust than that.'"
Is the question your asking is on what basis is Lachlan lam fed trained - he played as an under 9 and under 11 over here , vagana played his initial rugby at Queensbury (I think ) lam received approval to be off quota and vagana is in an identical as he was born in 2000 whilst his dad was playing at Bradford so was an under 9 - I know it sounds ludicrous but it’s true
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| On a related topic think we are 5-6 players short of the size of squad we need to compete in the middle regions of super league. Hull who you’d like to think we could be competing with have a signed squad of 31 and there starting squad is packed with players proven at highest level - admittedly some are a bit long in the tooth and as a club they flatter to deceive - but it gives you an idea of the strength in depth you need
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"On a related topic think we are 5-6 players short of the size of squad we need to compete in the middle regions of super league. Hull who you’d like to think we could be competing with have a signed squad of 31 and there starting squad is packed with players proven at highest level - admittedly some are a bit long in the tooth and as a club they flatter to deceive - but it gives you an idea of the strength in depth you need'"
Exactly, I believe we have 25 now officially announced. Certainly should be looking at 30 players if your spending cap and marquee.
I’m expecting 2-3 new signings still with one of very high quality/ marquee and 3-4 re-signings.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Exactly, I believe we have 25 now officially announced. Certainly should be looking at 30 players if your spending cap and marquee.
I’m expecting 2-3 new signings still with one of very high quality/ marquee and 3-4 re-signings.'"
Announced is the key word here. It's not like the old days when we are signing someone a week before the season starts.
There are just some players yet to be announced as far as I know.
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| I'm told that the 3 remaining new players yet to be announced are Josh Rourke, Matty Russell and Seth Nikotemo
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| Quote ="FIL"I'm told that the 3 remaining new players yet to be announced are Josh Rourke, Matty Russell and Seth Nikotemo
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That’s the three strongest rumours so would make sense. I would be fine with these three.
I would imagine we may be promoting a couple of young players maybe and re-signing a couple too to finish off.
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| So if we're aiming for a 30-man squad, that would leave us with something like:
Jowitt
Johnstone
Hall
Pratt
Walmsley
Trueman
Russell
Atoni
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Rodwell
McMeeken
Storton
Pitts
Doyle
Uele
Vagana
Scott
Rourke
Delaney
Law
Booth
Russell
Lino
Lawford
Lingard
Smith
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Niketemo
Boothroyd
Bain
So it's very clear where we need troops. We could easily fill those spots with Hood, Cozza and Shaw - I'd be perfectly happy with that for next season at least.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Is the question your asking is on what basis is Lachlan lam fed trained - he played as an under 9 and under 11 over here , vagana played his initial rugby at Queensbury (I think ) lam received approval to be off quota and vagana is in an identical as he was born in 2000 whilst his dad was playing at Bradford so was an under 9 - I know it sounds ludicrous but it’s true'"
I’m fine with it to be honest, I just thought it would be close with Vagana as after a bit of digging you have to be registered with a member club for 3 years to be classed as Fed trained. I don’t think you register till you are under 7’s and assuming he left when he was 8 or 9 it will be very close for Vagana to meet that criteria.
I knew Lam left when he was 11/12 so more understandable that he meets the criteria.
Still not sure who our quota players are for 2025.
Everyone keeps saying our quota space is full….but is that actually the case?
If it is I’d be comfortable trying to come to an agreement with Lino and/or Walmsely if we could bring a quality 9 and secondrow from overseas.
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| Quote ="Butcher"So if we're aiming for a 30-man squad, that would leave us with something like:
Jowitt
Johnstone
Hall
Pratt
Walmsley
Trueman
Russell
Atoni
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Rodwell
McMeeken
Storton
Pitts
Doyle
Uele
Vagana
Scott
Rourke
Delaney
Law
Booth
Russell
Lino
Lawford
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Smith
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Niketemo
Boothroyd
Bain
So it's very clear where we need troops. We could easily fill those spots with Hood, Cozza and Shaw - I'd be perfectly happy with that for next season at least.'"
There's young Lindgard as well
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| Quote ="Butcher"So if we're aiming for a 30-man squad, that would leave us with something like:
Jowitt
Johnstone
Hall
Pratt
Walmsley
Trueman
Russell
Atoni
?
Rodwell
McMeeken
Storton
Pitts
Doyle
Uele
Vagana
Scott
Rourke
Delaney
Law
Booth
Russell
Lino
Lawford
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Smith
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Niketemo
Boothroyd
Bain
So it's very clear where we need troops. We could easily fill those spots with Hood, Cozza and Shaw - I'd be perfectly happy with that for next season at least.'"
Isn't Cozza already signed for 2025 ? I may be wrong but I thought he signed for 2 years.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Isn't Cozza already signed for 2025 ? I may be wrong but I thought he signed for 2 years.'"
You're quite right, good spot. Would be perfectly happy to see him as cover in the middle or off the bench at 13.
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| As poplar and shifty cat have pointed out, we actually have more depth in the forwards than I'd realised. We also have Kay for another year. So in a nutshell, if we re-sign Hood, and M Russell, Rourke and Niketemo come to fruition, then we have a 31-man squad. A real strong 17 (with a few question marks), a mixed but solid 13 in reserve, and Kay who can cover for all 30 of them.
Jowitt
Johnstone
Hall
Pratt
Walmsley
Trueman
O Russell
Atoni
Hood
Rodwell
McMeeken
Storton
Pitts
Doyle
Uele
Vagana
Scott
Kay
Rourke
Delaney
Law
Booth
M Russell
Lino
Lawford
Lingard
Smith
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Boothroyd
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| Quote ="Butcher"As poplar and shifty cat have pointed out, we actually have more depth in the forwards than I'd realised. We also have Kay for another year. So in a nutshell, if we re-sign Hood, and M Russell, Rourke and Niketemo come to fruition, then we have a 31-man squad. A real strong 17 (with a few question marks), a mixed but solid 13 in reserve, and Kay who can cover for all 30 of them.
Jowitt
Johnstone
Hall
Pratt
Walmsley
Trueman
O Russell
Atoni
Hood
Rodwell
McMeeken
Storton
Pitts
Doyle
Uele
Vagana
Scott
Kay
Rourke
Delaney
Law
Booth
M Russell
Lino
Lawford
Lingard
Smith
Cozza
Niketemo
Boothroyd
Bain'"
There’s a lot of guesswork in some of these lists as you say. We actually have 24 signed up announced.
This as far as I’m aware is the announced and known to public list.
Jowitt
Johnstone
Pratt
Hall
Walmsley
Truman
Russell
Mckmeeken (one for you PT )
Doyle
Atoni
Scott
Storton
Pitts
Smith
Uele
Rodwell
Vagana
Bain
Cozza
Lino
Kay
Lawford
Booth
Lingard
There are questions over :
Joe Law
Tom Delaney
Will Brough (showing on first team website)
TBC:
Hood
Roarke
Russell
Niketemo
You also have Boothroyd in who isn’t signed and if we sign another quota won’t be.
So we still need a couple of young lads confirming (can’t find contract length on the net) or some rumours or retentions totalling around 6 x to announce.
Anyone know about Law/Delaney/Brough??
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