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| Quote ="jack in the box"I don't think a life at Belle Vue is sustainable for a Championship club. We may be able to get by for a season or two as a SL club pending Newmarket but thats it. Other than the pitch, Dewsbury is a superior stadium for a championship club. As far as location is concerned I would say its no further from our core base than Newmarket is.
If it is true its not such an outlandish idea and I could see why the club would consider moving'"
but not a merge or we have fallen into the RFL tat-tics
Dewsbury needs to keep its own identity and shouldn't be swallowed by bigger club
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| Quote ="snowie"but not a merge or we have fallen into the RFL tat-tics
Dewsbury needs to keep its own identity and shouldn't be swallowed by bigger club'"
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If its the championship for us we have been forced into the RL's tactics like it or not
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Snowie
If its the championship for us we have been forced into the RL's tactics like it or not'" true
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| big fan base? where
and better finance . hmmm wouldnt say that to be honest !
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| Quote ="snowie"no merger for me
come on take it on the chin if we're, we're down'"
I was joking Snowie?
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"I was joking Snowie?
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| Quote ="bren2k"As I posted some while ago - the owner (BoI) wants to sell it but has the inconvenience of a) a sitting tenant and b) a covenant stating the club must have an alternative venue prior to any sale, that would be expensive to contest or remove.
=#FF0000So - they put the rent up to an unaffordable level for next season, forcing the tenant to relocate of their own volition, thus clearing both obstacles to the sale in one move.'"
Can't do that, tenants have rights in Law and the Landlord can only charge a market rent. I understand we are paying £100,000 a year, its whether we could afford that and maintain Belle Vue on the vastly reduced gates we will get in the Championship. Dewsbury may be considerably cheaper.
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| But they can put it up a 'reasonable' amount which would more than likely put it out of a championship sides reach. Dewsbury would probably be half the cost.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"But they can put it up a 'reasonable' amount which would more than likely put it out of a championship sides reach. Dewsbury would probably be half the cost.'"
Yes its not only the rent, Belle Vue needs constant upkeep on an almost weekly basis. I would imagine Dewsbury would be a far more cost effective option for championship rugby.
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| Just a little fact to consider.
Belle Vue to Dewsbury Rams stadium - 6.2 miles.
Belle Vue to Xscape (Cas' mythical stadium) - 7.4 miles.
What's 1.2 miles between cousins!
P.S - I'm only playing devils advocate! I've always felt it would be better for wakey, and Cas, if they were to move in the opposite direction to NM.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Just a little fact to consider.
Belle Vue to Dewsbury Rams stadium - 6.2 miles.
Belle Vue to Xscape (Cas' mythical stadium) - 7.4 miles.
What's 1.2 miles between cousins!
P.S - I'm only playing devils advocate! I've always felt it would be better for wakey, and Cas, if they were to move in the opposite direction to NM.'"
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| There's also ongoing money being spent on BV as we speak. Why if we were leaving? If the BOI decide to bang the rents up in the present climate you take it to arbitration.Simple
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| Quote ="The Trip"There's also ongoing money being spent on BV as we speak. Why if we were leaving? If the BOI decide to bang the rents up in the present climate you take it to arbitration.Simple'"
If Glover has any sense (and he does), he'll be trying to buy the ground back at today's prices and convert it into housing at tomorrow's. As you say, he won't be investing in it by way of building amenities if he's planning on upping sticks to Dewsbury next season.
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| I meant to make a point about mergers and groundsharing and how some people were dead against Glasshoughton, but open to one at Dewsbury, but just seen that a bit of the text was missing; sorry!
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I meant to make a point about mergers and groundsharing and how some people were dead against Glasshoughton, but open to one at Dewsbury, but just seen that a bit of the text was missing; sorry!'"
Dewsburys ground is just about in Wakefield anyway plus it's only until Newmarket is ready
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"If Glover has any sense (and he does), he'll be trying to buy the ground back at today's prices and convert it into housing at tomorrow's. As you say, he won't be investing in it by way of building amenities if he's planning on upping sticks to Dewsbury next season.'"
If we can't buy back b v and the lease is too much Dewsbury is the next best until NM. I know Bol own the land but do they own the hospitality block because we could take that with us as it's a good money spinner and our cooperate sales are doing very well under AG
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"If we can't buy back b v and the lease is too much Dewsbury is the next best until NM. I know Bol own the land but do they own the hospitality block because we could take that with us as it's a good money spinner and our cooperate sales are doing very well under AG'"
The cost of moving the hospitality block v paying the rent at BV. Does anyone on here have any commercial sense?
The land at BV will not sell at present. Also if you look further into it the land is actually owned by the Irish Government who have sequestered all the property deals that the BOI completed. Also we now have the Irish economy being downgraded on it's credit rating, placing it virtually in default like Greece.Therefore just like Monopoly when you can't pay the debts you have to sell your assets at a reduced default value.
So BV could be on the market very soon at a fraction of the costs that the agents are touting it for.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Just a little fact to consider.
Belle Vue to Dewsbury Rams stadium - 6.2 miles.
Belle Vue to Xscape (Cas' mythical stadium) - 7.4 miles.
What's 1.2 miles between cousins!
P.S - I'm only playing devils advocate! I've always felt it would be better for wakey, and Cas, if they were to move in the opposite direction to NM.'"
Where is the stadium at Xscape ?
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| Can see quite a lot falling out with AG already if this were to happen.
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| Quote ="supercat"Can see quite a lot falling out with AG already if this were to happen.'"
If we get the chop from SL I can a large proportion of our fan base leaving for that reason alone.
The few that remain will be the really hardcore supporters and most will still probably watch the team whereever it plays.
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| Wrencat. I'm quite aware that there's no stadium at Xscape (if you take the time to read my post again you'll see that I put mythical stadium) the point I was trying to make, badly I'll admit! Is that many people were dead against a groundshare at Xscape due to it being in castleford and not in Wakey. Yet some feel that a groundshare with dewsbury is acceptable, presumabley as they feel that Wakey would have nothing to fear from dewsbury.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Wrencat. I'm quite aware that there's no stadium at Xscape (if you take the time to read my post again you'll see that I put mythical stadium) the point I was trying to make, badly I'll admit! Is that many people were dead against a groundshare at Xscape due to it being in castleford and not in Wakey. Yet some feel that a groundshare with dewsbury is acceptable, presumabley as they feel that Wakey would have nothing to fear from dewsbury.'"
I've got to agree your point was badly made.
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| Thanks, but that doesn't account for your not reading the post properly. We all have our faults and make mistakes.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Wrencat. I'm quite aware that there's no stadium at Xscape (if you take the time to read my post again you'll see that I put mythical stadium) the point I was trying to make, badly I'll admit! Is that many people were dead against a groundshare at Xscape due to it being in castleford and not in Wakey. Yet some feel that a groundshare with dewsbury is acceptable, presumabley as they feel that Wakey would have nothing to fear from dewsbury.'"
Because the idea of playing in Cas is unthinkable and the idea of playing in Dewsbury is slightly better than unthinkable.
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