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| Quote ="PopTart"Where are we with injuries?
Anderson, Kirmond, possibly Ali could all be fir to play?
Was Washbrook injured I can't remember
Hall and Owen as well.'"
Apparently Anderson is still suffering from the effects of concussion.
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| think this double header could be a turning point for both sides.
for us, it would give us a winning feeling and the confidence going into the super 8's, where as for wakey, again the winning feeling confidence and mindset secure their s.l status in the middle 8's
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| In response to Pop Tart am finding it hard to understand how anyone who has watched Anakin play could select Ryan, Kirke, Washbrook, Anderson, Kavangh and Molly ahead of him, Not only is Anakin not in Pop Tarts squad he has also selected Walker ahead of him. Please could his other Mods moderate him as surely opinions such as these have no place on this forum.
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| Johnstone & Riley left out, Dan Smith, Kirmond, Ashurst & Lauitiiti still injured. 19 man Squad....
Chris Annakin
Joe Arundel
Pita Godinet
Ben Kavanagh
Ian Kirke
Kevin Locke
Reece Lyne
Paul McShane
Jacob Miller
Jon Molloy
Richard Owen
Matt Ryan
Nick Scruton
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Jordan Tansey
Anthony Walker
Danny Washbrook
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Johnstone & Riley left out, Dan Smith, Kirmond, Ashurst & Lauitiiti still injured. 19 man Squad....
Chris Annakin
Joe Arundel
Pita Godinet
Ben Kavanagh
Ian Kirke
Kevin Locke
Reece Lyne
Paul McShane
Jacob Miller
Jon Molloy
Richard Owen
Matt Ryan
Nick Scruton
Mickael Simon
Michael Sio
Tim Smith
Jordan Tansey
Anthony Walker
Danny Washbrook'"
Howarth and Hall injured or not selected? With him leaving Johnstone and Riley out, I could be wrong but I can't find an out and out winger in that 19, I really haven't got a clue as to who he will pick from no. 1 to 5.....
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"Howarth and Hall injured or not selected? With him leaving Johnstone and Riley out, I could be wrong but I can't find an out and out winger in that 19, I really haven't got a clue as to who he will pick from no. 1 to 5.....
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Howarth hurt his arm v Salford don't know the extent of the injury though. Hall I have been told as gone to Dewsbury,
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| think he will go with Locke at 1, Owen and Lynne on the wings, Tansey and Arundel in the . He will start with MacShane at 9 Godinet at 6 with Sio on the bench.
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| Bizarre selection if you ask me. Our injury list in the forwards is still quite big. I'm guessing he's resting Johnstone. I'm struggling to see any flair in the backs tbh.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Bizarre selection if you ask me. Our injury list in the forwards is still quite big. I'm guessing he's resting Johnstone. I'm struggling to see any flair in the backs tbh.'"
Could be 0-0 then, we haven't got much flair either, I think we will try and bully your forwards and look for mistakes and score trys from inside the 20.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Could be 0-0 then, we haven't got much flair either, I think we will try and bully your forwards and look for mistakes and score trys from inside the 20.'"
something tells me it will be a low quality game (both) maybe 8-10 points in each.
my prediction will be 1-1 in the mini fc v wakey series
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| Got 4 pals coming over from Hull and we all think 1-1 in the mini series, although I hope we win both but I think it may be on Sunday the wagon start to roll for us.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Bizarre selection if you ask me. Our injury list in the forwards is still quite big. I'm guessing he's resting Johnstone. I'm struggling to see any flair in the backs tbh.'"
Are we watching the same game here Adam?
Locke and Tansey offer more flair than any of the rest of our backline surely
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| Best way to view it is this IMHO.
Widnes, a team we may have to play showed a level of intensity against Saints that we have never come close to in the last 18 month. One has to assume that Hull despite being out of form have played with a similar intensity this season let alone the last 18 month.
So forlorn as they may be at the moment they will IMHO rise to the occasion and probably win simply because they know roughly how to and as yet we don’t.
This is what Smith means IMO by small improvements - there will come a tipping point hopefully but with so many new faces including Smith it may be a little early.
Truth is in playing terms we don’t need to win these games just learn from them. However the benefit in terms of winning fans back would be massive. So fingers crossed that I’m wrong and the miracle has begun.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"In response to Pop Tart am finding it hard to understand how anyone who has watched Anakin play could select Ryan, Kirke, Washbrook, Anderson, Kavangh and Molly ahead of him, Not only is Anakin not in Pop Tarts squad he has also selected Walker ahead of him. Please could his other Mods moderate him as surely opinions such as these have no place on this forum.'"
Well, in self moderation, I posted that list before the squad was announced and simply forgot him.
I'm a big fan of Annakin but I've also noticed him being the one letting a player through the gap a couple of times recently. He needs to still pick up fitness.
I posted a team on my mobile but didn't realise it didn't post. Annakin was on the bench in that team. I see him more in back row. (Just posted it on the squad thread).
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| Quote ="vastman"Are we watching the same game here Adam?
Locke and Tansey offer more flair than any of the rest of our backline surely
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Ii wasn't counting Locke in that tbf. I wouldn't class Tansey as much of a flair player but am happy to be proven wrong.
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| Quote ="vastman"Best way to view it is this IMHO.
Widnes, a team we may have to play showed a level of intensity against Saints that we have never come close to in the last 18 month. One has to assume that Hull despite being out of form have played with a similar intensity this season let alone the last 18 month.
So forlorn as they may be at the moment they will IMHO rise to the occasion and probably win simply because they know roughly how to and as yet we don’t.
This is what Smith means IMO by small improvements - there will come a tipping point hopefully but with so many new faces including Smith it may be a little early.
Truth is in playing terms we don’t need to win these games just learn from them. However the benefit in terms of winning fans back would be massive. So fingers crossed that I’m wrong and the miracle has begun.'"
Agree.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I wouldn't class Tansey as much of a flair player but am happy to be proven wrong.'"
I haven't seen a tremendous amount of Tansey, but when I have seen him, he does seem to have the ability to back himself and do something unexpected; I've also seen him switch off and dip out of a game for periods of time, which isn't so good.
I heard John Kear talking about 'heads-up rugby league' during his commentary of a CC game this weekend - basically, players having the freedom and skills to just look up and play what's in front of them at that moment - it's a fair way off, but I'd love to see us playing like that; in that kind of entertaining, exciting style of play, mistakes are much more easily forgiven and fans at least feel like they've watched a team that has given it a good go. I guess the difficulty for a coach is teaching players when to play like that, and when to revert to a safer, percentage style of play.
I can't help thinking that with a couple more additions and some time to work with the players, Brian Smith will instil some of that in his team; retaining our SL place is the key of course, so if we win in the 8's, I don't really care how we do it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I haven't seen a tremendous amount of Tansey, but when I have seen him, he does seem to have the ability to back himself and do something unexpected; I've also seen him switch off and dip out of a game for periods of time, which isn't so good.
I heard John Kear talking about 'heads-up rugby league' during his commentary of a CC game this weekend - basically, players having the freedom and skills to just look up and play what's in front of them at that moment - it's a fair way off, but I'd love to see us playing like that; in that kind of entertaining, exciting style of play, mistakes are much more easily forgiven and fans at least feel like they've watched a team that has given it a good go. I guess the difficulty for a coach is teaching players when to play like that, and when to revert to a safer, percentage style of play.
I can't help thinking that with a couple more additions and some time to work with the players, Brian Smith will instil some of that in his team; retaining our SL place is the key of course, so if we win in the 8's, I don't really care how we do it.'"
Bran Smith is a percentage Coach and I suspect a simplified and rigid game plan is the order of the day - whether that works I don't know but I suspect it will in an ugly kind of way.
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| It's the transition from one to another that we lack and Locke and Tansey will help with that. They are both great going forward and will add to Godinet's enthusiasm for the break. We have had a season of half breaks that die because there is no "next pass". Even with a rigid team structure, those two players will help us add some flair in those kind of half break situations.
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| Spot on Pop Tart. The back line must benefit from Locke and Tansey and I would expect our second pass options have increase greatly. Tim Smith will also be presented with options .
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| We are not allowed to post links to video sites or even give instructions of how to do it, so please don't follow this up with anything like that, but I have seen some tribute compilations of Locke's previous performances and I am really excited to see him in a Wakefield shirt.
Clearly Hull will be targeting him but a lot of the magic that he does is all on his own, whether kick returns or stepping through a crowd.
We have a good one there is no doubt, we just need to unlock the magic.
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| The prospect of seeing Locke in the red white and blue should excite all Wakey fans. I only wish I could see it live myself. On his day the best F B in S L without doubt.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"In response to Pop Tart am finding it hard to understand how anyone who has watched Anakin play could select Ryan, Kirke, Washbrook, Anderson, Kavangh and Molly ahead of him, Not only is Anakin not in Pop Tarts squad he has also selected Walker ahead of him. Please could his other Mods moderate him as surely opinions such as these have no place on this forum.'"
I would select Washbrook and Molloy ahead of him on recent form. I think as ever you’re being way OTT regarding this player. He’s been found out a few times when he’s played, sorry mate but he isn’t the superstar you think he is - not yet anyway.
He’s got time on his side but don’t over egg it.
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| Hull resting 4 players . Should be interesting. We will need to be on top form in the pack me thinks.
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| Vastman, ` found out ` how exactly ? Washbrook & Molloy are not fit to lace his boots.
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