How do you know how Matty Ryan is playing or even Walshaw for that matter?

I think there's more than one missing Vastman's point!
For what it's worth I completely agree, I have never known us have such strength in depth. We have an NRL schoolboy international, of not that long ago and we haven't even seen him yet!

Think your wrong IMO - many Leeds youngsters have not made the grade - nor do good young players always make the step up as shown by our all conquering Academy team of a few years back. I personally don't blame just the coaching staff for that. People moan about Wildie and Wallshaw not getting a fair crack of the whip but they have in fact played far more SL games than some of Leeds more fancied youngsters.

However that's not the point.

The point is not that the 2nd string is a great team - its to point out that even at the bare bones we could compete against most other SL teams who are also down to the bare bones - including Leeds - all things are relative.

This means as far as my RL logic takes me that during the AVERAGE ups and downs of a season we now hopefully have enough quality to plug the gaps as and when they appear - which may be the difference between safety or relegation to 8th or 9th spot.

The last time we had a similar amount of cover was 2008/2009 when we manage a CCup semi and a top 8.

We have some good strength in depth now when you look at the whole squad and number of positions some players can cover.

Full back - Mathers,Sammut,Sykes

Wing - Fox,Riley,Lyne,Briscoe

Centre - Collis,Lyne,Sykes,Keinhorst,Walshaw,Ryan

Stand off - Sammut,Sykes,Godinet,Seijka

Scrum half - Godinet,Sammut,Seijka,Wildie

Props - Anderson,Raleigh,Smith,Tautai,Moore

Hooker - McShane,Wildie,Godinet

Second row - Lauititi,Kirmond,Ryan,Tautai,Molloy,Annakin,Trout,Walshaw,

Loose forward - Washbrook,Tautai,Molloy,Annakin,Kirmond

That's without youngsters Jowitt,Crowther,Shulver who can be brought on steady away.

have a look at Salford's team 2

....you'll feel a lot better about yours if you do.

Then maybe look at London/Bradford's team 2 where I feature in the second row.

In a team 2 league you'd be in the same position as the team 1 league - between 7th-9th

Yep, looks pretty good to me Les, and you missed out Scruton.

Just to add , what’s happening with the U19s . more investment than ever , but not very good , I base my opinions on what I see (admittedly not London) and if I was M/C I would want to know why with the resources at their disposal the coaching staff aren’t doing better.

Going by the result you didn't miss much at London either.

I agree we do have good strength this year. Credit to Agar and Mr Carter. Briscoe is way short of standard though after witnessing the Fev friendly and the Wigan game. He looks a liability.

seriously why do u feel the need to single a player out whose probably got more ability in his little finger than you ever will and make a judgement after seeing him twice?? you really are a joke of a fan

He just does, not happy without a whipping boy.

In all fairness I think Briscoe has been brought in too early in his career and he is not yet ready for SL rugby.
The fact that Agar has had to bring Riley in tends to suggest Agar possibly now feels the same.

I have said it before, it was suggested we had the pick of Leeds reserves as loan players. I can't understand
why Briscoe was chosen over Duckworth who would have been a better prospect for our situation.

For all we know Leeds could of gave us a list of players they are happy to loan to us and Duckworth wasn't one of them.

For me he was one off the only players that showed interest in the Fev freindly - Thought his attack looked promising, And his defence looked solid.

Your opinion of him been a "Liability" Comes from watching a freindly and 1 league game in a unsettled squad that had played a couple of games together.

The fact that he is loan at London suggests he probably was available

London could of had a deal before we enquired?

That wasn't the point of my reply, the question was more why single out one player with an overwhelmingly damming comment - no need for it with young players ?(and i've done it myself and regretted it in the past) but NGB4C has form, why be fair - he isn't.

Just quoted your reply for ease of comment



You're right about NGB4C he certainly knows how to bag a player. Then again when he likes
one he certainly lets us know. Way Frankie is going over at Cas I'm surprised he's not banging
on about what a massive mistake the club have made

He forgot about his Ex. Don't remind him.

I can't wait till easter if big Frankie scores

Who's come through the Leeds academy? You've got Minns, Duckworth, Briscoe, Sutcliffe all playing their trade at other super league clubs. You've got Watkins, Hardaker and Ben Jones-Bishop who are arguably world class. Who have we produced in the last 5 seasons anywhere near being akin to that? I can't think of any. Our back-up is alright but it's not because of the youngsters we produce. The fact we have young players that have played more Super League games, in my opinion, shows how short we have been previously because they wouldn't get many gigs anywhere else in the league.

I feel the need because you posted about 2 teams and he wouldn't be in that!

Hardaker is a Fev product as every body seems to forget.

OK, fine if it makes you happy but does it really matter in regard to the basic point

I was only taking issue with the point about Leeds. The overall sentiment, I agreed with