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| Sandown 7.45
Tazeez 7/1 E/W
Best form has come on good to firm which it gets today plus 3lbs from the front two in the market.
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| Drop the hammer.8.10.Newcastle 13/2
much improved form last run and fallon on top today, expected to take all the beating
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| Another one like yesterday that has seen money come for it. Cedar Falls, 6.50 Wetherby has gone in from as big as 125/1 to 12/1 in places. Probably do nothing but thought I'd let you chaps know. In the same race Laybach has gone from 33/1 to as little as 7/2.
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| Laybach was a proper through the floors type gamble EPG - it will drift on the shows, expect an SP of about 10-12/1 IMO. These sort of gambles always do as the bookmakers are keen to lay them on course.
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| Quote ="Carneys Pint"Laybach was a proper through the floors type gamble EPG - it will drift on the shows, expect an SP of about 10-12/1 IMO. These sort of gambles always do as the bookmakers are keen to lay them on course.'"
Both did nothing. I don't get the info you guys do these days, my dad had a mate in Stoute's yard, so I'm just trying to chip in where i can. If that's watching movers then so be it. I owe you big style for Makfi, got me out of a rut did that one!
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Both did nothing. I don't get the info you guys do these days, my dad had a mate in Stoute's yard, so I'm just trying to chip in where i can. If that's watching movers then so be it. I owe you big style for Makfi, got me out of a rut did that one!'"
Makfi was just old fashioned study - I'm lucky in that I have the time available for it. At the moment I'm formulating speed figures for Point-To-Point races (sad or what?).
Makfi was a good horse from abroad - they're often overlooked in the market and whilst he shouldn't have been favourite 8/1-10/1 would have been fair on what he'd done.
Watching the odds comparison sites and exchanges always helps with it - some horses are 25's, 20's, 14's and others are 25's straight in to 8's (these are generally better value as bets) but the bookies on course always want to get them in the book as it's the off-course boys who lay them in the morning and the course bookies always want a bit of the cake
Stoute is a very good trainer - there'll be far worse yards to get info from for sure, though his choice of apprentice jockey does worry me
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| Anybody else think that batley may be worth a small play @ 15/2??? Dodgy pitch & cats hardly pulling up trees at the mo,rather take the 15/2 about batley than 1/7 cats!!
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| After watching Sheffield last week, I've done Keighley +20 @ 10/11 this evening.
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| Quote ="EXILEDHULLADGATESHEAD"Anybody else think that batley may be worth a small play @ 15/2??? Dodgy pitch & cats hardly pulling up trees at the mo,rather take the 15/2 about batley than 1/7 cats!!'"
Yes!! I'll be having a small 80 mins bet on them and I had them getting 12 so nice to see that Skybet have gone up with a 20 point start.
Any idea of the weather for Saturday?
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| Tazeez was a sitting duck in the end but SP of 9/1 was crazy
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| Quote ="Carneys Pint"Yes!! I'll be having a small 80 mins bet on them and I had them getting 12 so nice to see that Skybet have gone up with a 20 point start.
=#0000BFAny idea of the weather for Saturday?'"
Rain according to bbc weather
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| Thanks Exiled - +20 looks good then. Would add that as I understand it Sherwin isn't cup tied (well at least he isn't according to the Catalans website).
It gets costly though Wire_85 - 30 Euro's for 3 months of French racing, the UK/Irish stuff is free and use my mates Irish Point-To-Point account for that stuff and then £70 a year for the UK Pointing stuff (and even then the video's are only 2 minutes long).
Grand-Steeplechase De Paris this weekend - hopefully have a few good bets on the undercard for all
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| Quote ="Carneys Pint"Thanks Exiled - +20 looks good then. Would add that as I understand it Sherwin isn't cup tied (well at least he isn't according to the Catalans website).
It gets costly though Wire_85 - 30 Euro's for 3 months of French racing, the UK/Irish stuff is free and use my mates Irish Point-To-Point account for that stuff and then £70 a year for the UK Pointing stuff (and even then the video's are only 2 minutes long).
Grand-Steeplechase De Paris this weekend - hopefully have a few good bets on the undercard for all
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I always buy the Racing Post for TS and RPR figures etc was thinking of becoming a member on the site its £20 a month I think though.
I use this site more then any other its my homepage
[urlhttp://thebettingsite.racingpost.co.uk/[/url
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| After many years of studying the form I've come to the conclusion that it's purely and simply down to your luck on the day...it really is that simple.
It's extremely satisfying when you spend ages reading a race and come up with a conclusion and a result like CP did with Makfi..
Over the years though I've spent hours and hours looking at races and thinking I've found real good things and had decent 3 figure bets and they've been beaten out of sight, and on the other hand there's been times where I've nipped in a bookies with a couple of quid in my pocket and without much thought or attention quickly picked three out and had a treble and won 3 figures!
The most frustrating game in the World at times, but also the best game in the world when things go right.
I'm Ponte bound tomorrow night and am just about to start my work now for the next few hours to see if I can find a winner or two. Our lass and the young un are both coming and will still probably have more joy than me.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"After watching Sheffield last week, I've done Keighley +20 @ 10/11 this evening.'"
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| The Racing Post is a good site - didn't become a member because can see everything I need to on the free video sites and reading the form for free on the site or on the ATR site.
There's plenty of good trainers for landing a touch and some who gamble everything and it gets stuffed out of site.
Personally don't like backing short-priced horses, would much rather back 33/1 and 25/1 shots each-way with a bit more on the win part than a 4/1 or 9/4 horse as the same things can go wrong but you get less for your stake
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| A cool 15/2 @ Ladbrokes for Batley to win. Tempted. I am.
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| off to pontefract tonight
done my studying and come up with these in each race!
6.30 very well red
7.00 sirgarfieldsobers
7.30 my son max
8.00 sweet child omine
8.30 madamlily
9.00 king of windsor
wont be playing big tonight as did my money lastnight on drop the hammer .. turned out fallon was ill and didnt ride it in the end
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| Kearney and Langley out for Bulls this weekend.
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| Quote ="brearley84"off to pontefract tonight
done my studying and come up with these in each race!
6.30 very well red
7.00 sirgarfieldsobers
7.30 my son max
8.00 sweet child omine
8.30 madamlily
9.00 king of windsor
wont be playing big tonight as did my money lastnight on drop the hammer .. turned out fallon was ill and didnt ride it in the end'"
Think I'm gunna take a trip to Ponte Carlo tonight. Not had time to take a proper look yet but got a spare hour or so when i get home to have a look.
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| Managed to keep my 100% record of missing the first race of every meeting I've attended this year. Had eton fable in the 2nd. Why it was 18s ill never know. Pretty good start minds you
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| Great stuff EPG - soft lead and kick on from there
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| Lumped on Reality Show in the 9.10 @ Haydock. Hmm could've ran a hell of alot better race.
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