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| I think he will be a great captain because all the players respect him and hes the same with them IMO, but hes never been a great "people person" has he so even if we win the Ryder cup by 10 points hes in for a rough time from the press because hes never got along with them. They cant really do much now because of the injunction he got against them, but it wouldnt suprise me if they dig some story up to upset him!
They should just leave him be until after the tournament, but we all know they wont
Like has been said he cant be as bad as Faldo or even Hal Sutton was for them he was just a joke
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| Monty picks Eduardo Molinari, Padraig Harrington and Luke Donald for the Ryder Cup team. Casey and Rose not in the team.
I would have personally have left out Harrington and picked Justin Rose, Harrington is living on past reputation/victories IMO whereas Justin Rose is in form and has won twice recently!
Casey must be gutted too but I have no sympathy for someone who chooses to play in the US instead of qualify by rights, at least Donald had the balls to come over and play and it payed of big time with his win and it could have been more!
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Monty picks Eduardo Molinari, Padraig Harrington and Luke Donald for the Ryder Cup team. Casey and Rose not in the team.
I would have personally have left out Harrington and picked Justin Rose, Harrington is living on past reputation/victories IMO whereas Justin Rose is in form and has won twice recently!
Casey must be gutted too but I have no sympathy for someone who chooses to play in the US instead of qualify by rights, at least Donald had the balls to come over and play and it payed of big time with his 2 wins!'"
Bingo. Agree with everything you've posted. I'll also add that it seemed a strange time to release the picks. How much a prat would Monty feel if one of the guys he has left out hit's a 62 today and goes top of the Fedex Cup rankings. Should have waited till the morning IMO.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Bingo. Agree with everything you've posted. I'll also add that it seemed a strange time to release the picks. How much a prat would Monty feel if one of the guys he has left out hit's a 62 today and goes top of the Fedex Cup rankings. Should have waited till the morning IMO.'"
Its just the way its always been done, at least as long as I can remeber it has anyway.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Its just the way its always been done, at least as long as I can remeber it has anyway.'"
Just seems odd. Casey is playing well again and yet has been left out. Rose is one of the form players in golf but we have left him out as well. Why can't players score points on the US tour? It's a better tour than the European
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| Also Harringtons having a stinker again.
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| I've no sympathy for Rose or Casey after they chased the money instead of playing in Scotland this week.Even if they didn't make the team by right it would have shown how willing they were to try.Look at what Jimenez did,he missed his Nephews wedding to make sure he made the team.
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| Quote ="DAR130"I've no sympathy for Rose or Casey after they chased the money instead of playing in Scotland this week.Even if they didn't make the team by right it would have shown how willing they were to try.Look at what Jimenez did,he missed his Nephews wedding to make sure he made the team.'"
Agree 100% with that and playing well in the summer in the States is a completely different kettle of fish to playing in October in Wales.
Add in the fact that Casey isn't particularly well liked by his peers too and it's not too much of a surprise.
I think he's planning on using Harrington as the "big name" and hoping that he'll rise to being the team's number 1. It's a gamble considering he hasn't won a Ryder Cup match since 2004 but it's one I think most people would take.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Agree 100% with that and playing well in the summer in the States is a completely different kettle of fish to playing in October in Wales.
Add in the fact that Casey isn't particularly well liked by his peers too and it's not too much of a surprise.
I think he's planning on using Harrington as the "big name" and hoping that he'll rise to being the team's number 1. It's a gamble considering he hasn't won a Ryder Cup match since 2004 but it's one I think most people would take.'"
He's not won a Ryder Cup match since 2004 AND his form stinks. To leave in form players out like Rose and Casey for somebody so clearly out of form seems a bit daft to me.
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| Cant wait for the Ryder cup to start now
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Cant wait for the Ryder cup to start now
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Same. Have booked the full weekend off
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8954599.stmLuke Donald agrees with me[/url.
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| I'm surprised and I must say a little disappointed with Monty's choices to be honest.
Luke Donald is the biggest one, he would have never been in front of Casey for me. How Casey isn't in I'll never know, top ten player in the world, 8th to be exact - third in the Open and an excellent player. I thought Rose deserved his place following his two wins on the PGA Tour this year also.
I'm not surprised Harrington was in, he was a cert from the start regardless of how he performed lately. He's game has slipped backwards this year for me and I'm not sure he warrants a place ahead of two players who are really playing well this year (Casey and Rose!).
I'm really pleased he's put Molinari in, both look superb players and have long successful careers ahead.
Who would everyone have picked had they been in Monty's position?
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Molinari
Rose
Casey
I thinks it's barmy to over look them three.
But having said that, I can't wait for it to get going now!!
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| I'd have picked the same 3 as you. I know Padraig is a multiple major winner but that was a couple of years ago now. His major record for 2009 and 2010 is crap. He just seems bang out of form. Big risk for Monty and I think we will know if it's paid off on the first morning.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"I'd have picked the same 3 as you. I know Padraig is a multiple major winner but that was a couple of years ago now. His major record for 2009 and 2010 is crap. He just seems bang out of form. Big risk for Monty and I think we will know if it's paid off on the first morning.'"
Spot on, exactly what I was thinking. I feel let down by Monty because I believe he's picked him on name only not on his form. I'm amazed he's left Casey out. Big mistake for me.
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| Will Pavin pick Woods?? Course he will (as would everyone and anyone else) despite his form being shocking and not having the greatest Ryder Cup record.
Harrington is still world ranked in the top 20 so it's not as if he's picking a complete randomer...and in his last 6 tournaments he's had a 9th, a 2nd and a 5th place finish with 13 other top 10 finishes in the last 12 months - cant be that badly off form can he?? Casey has had 1 top ten finish in his last 12 events too.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Will Pavin pick Woods?? Course he will (as would everyone and anyone else) despite his form being shocking and not having the greatest Ryder Cup record.
Harrington is still world ranked in the top 20 so it's not as if he's picking a complete randomer...and in his last 6 tournaments he's had a 9th, a 2nd and a 5th place finish with 13 other top 10 finishes in the last 12 months - cant be that badly off form can he?? Casey has had 1 top ten finish in his last 12 events too.'"
Anyone would pick Woods, of course they would. You'd be stupid not too, comparing Woods and Harrington? deary me.
I just feel Harrington's form now and this season has been very poor it doesn't warrant a place on the Ryder Cup team and I think it will show again in October. It's just my opinion but I think Casey is a better golfer at this time and thats what matters. He's been picked on name only, very dangerous.
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| Well results/finishing places alone show that he's been in better form than Casey over the past 12 tournaments whether he's played the better golf or not is another matter.
And I wasn't comparing Harrington to Woods per se, I was just saying Harrington is, arguably, our biggest name and as such will get more leeway, as will Woods on the American side of things.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Well results/finishing places alone show that he's been in better form than Casey over the past 12 tournaments whether he's played the better golf or not is another matter.
And I wasn't comparing Harrington to Woods per se, I was just saying Harrington is, arguably, our biggest name and as such will get more leeway, as will Woods on the American side of things.'"
Woods is still and has been world number one for years, it goes without saying he will get a place. If Europe has the world number one and he needed a wildcard I'd fully expect it.
The fact that Casey is 8th in the world and Harrington is 19th tells me who has been playing the better golf during this year and should've told Monty. I still don't believe Harrington warrants a place just because he's Harrington. Not only that during 2010 Casey has picked up 163.87 points in the world rankings whereas Harrington has 104.04 points. Don't get me wrong I've always loved watching Harrington but imo Casey would've been the better choice.
Who would your picks have been?
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| The right choices were made I feel, Rose and Casey are unlucky but knew what they had to do before it all started.
Harrington is a huge player for Europe and had to be picked, Molinari played superb yesterday and deserved his place and I would have gone for Donald ahead of Rose/Casey.
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| I would have definitely gone with Harrington and Molinari, the other one I had open would have been Rose/Casey/Donald. With Donald having finished 3rd at the Welsh Open earlier this year I think that may have swung it his way for me.
At least it shows the strength in depth we've got when we've left out players of the talents of Casey, Rose, Garcia, Stenson, Karlsson.
The players who decide to chase the US dollar know beforehand that it's harder for them to get into the Ryder Cup team so it's no use them moaning about it afterwards.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The right choices were made I feel, Rose and Casey are unlucky but knew what they had to do before it all started.
Harrington is a huge player for Europe and had to be picked, Molinari played superb yesterday and deserved his place and I would have gone for Donald ahead of Rose/Casey.'"
Why did Harrington have to be picked? I don't get this he must be picked attitude, why? he has been a huge player for Europe but it won't last forever. He's slipped down the rankings this year and he hasn't exactly played that well this year.
I've never been a fan of Donald, I don't like him and personally I'd rather have had Karlsson or Stenson in there ahead of him and I'd have had Rose and Casey ahead of them. Molinari had to be in the team, he's an excellent prospect.
Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"I would have definitely gone with Harrington and Molinari, the other one I had open would have been Rose/Casey/Donald. With Donald having finished 3rd at the Welsh Open earlier this year I think that may have swung it his way for me.
At least it shows the strength in depth we've got when we've left out players of the talents of Casey, Rose, Garcia, Stenson, Karlsson.
The players who decide to chase the US dollar know beforehand that it's harder for them to get into the Ryder Cup team so it's no use them moaning about it afterwards.'"
I don't think they're moaning about it, if anything it's Donald who has made the point of changing the way things are done. You're right, isn't it nice that we've got this debate going about who should and shouldn't be in the team, it does show the quality of players.
I'm delighted Garcia didn't get a sniff of playing, he completely messed up two years ago and hasn't performed at all since. Although I think he's a vice captain now.
That could be Monty's thinking behind Donald but I'd rather players be picked on their form and current ability and I don't think Monty he has done that with Harrington and it's the same attitude that Paul has that is so frustrating.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Harrington is a huge player for Europe and had to be picked'"
Is he really though? His record in the Ryder Cup is pretty poor as is his form. I'm with Dan_FC on this. Just because he was very good 2 years ago, incidentally when Tiger Woods had to take a year out of the game due to injury. Harrington has been picked on name alone which is just plain wrong in my eyes. Casey is a superb matchplay player. Just look at his record. It would have taken balls to put Casey in ahead of Harrington but it would have been the correct decision.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Is he really though? His record in the Ryder Cup is pretty poor as is his form. I'm with Dan_FC on this. Just because he was very good 2 years ago, incidentally when Tiger Woods had to take a year out of the game due to injury. Harrington has been picked on name alone which is just plain wrong in my eyes. Casey is a superb matchplay player. Just look at his record. It would have taken balls to put Casey in ahead of Harrington but it would have been the correct decision.'"
And as I feared Monty didn't have the balls to do it, I'm shocked he's over looked both Casey and Rose - the two wins on the PGA this year I thought would swing him a place. But I really can't understand leaving out the world number 8 and not that long ago world number three runner-up at the last 2 Accenture World Matchplays. Harrington hasn't won a Ryder Cup match since 2006! For me he's just not playing well enough and hasn't been for a while to be picked. I think the Donald and Harrington selections will come back to haunt Monty.
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