I hate to mention it after such a great win last night but why bother offering him a big contract when our owner doesn't hold the player to the contract once the pound signs are flashed in front of his nose? We are losing 2 of our players this year that still had time left to run on their contracts which shows contracts are worthless to us as fans. Might as well just be glad weve got him for the time being and hope no Aussie clubs notice him for a few years.

I agree he has been fantastic and his leg drive is one of the best in the game. always gets over the advantage line.

If you don't get them signed you lose them anyway and get noting for them. Get them on a contract, at least you command a fee for them.

He has been quality this season and will only get better as he gets older

My player of the season too, fantastic player and its an absolute crime that he didnt get the lance todd trophy

Taylor and Flower are the most improved and will be the backbone of this pack for years to come, I think this time next year we will be saying the same about Dom Crosby, it's all coming together nicely.
Or is that a bit too positive for here ?

We've also got a gem in Sam Hopkins coming in next year, I cant wait to see him in Super League. All our pack is missing is experience, I'd love us to sign an experienced NRL prop.

I've not seen much of Hopkins, what's are the best parts of his game?

Hope he gets noticed by Steve Mac, he genuinely deserves it, a true honest bloke, absolutely colossal this year.

What a great signing this lad has turned out to be. In addition he plays the game with a smile on his face. Sign him up long term.

Has played well, especially back end of the season - has the potential for me to be the best prop at Wigan for a long time - not there yet but developing nicely. Also I think he has been used wisely - not over used.

Him and flower as 8 & 10 next year for me

now the doubters know why IL and the coaching staff paid a transfer fee for him, also think the club need to start talking next year about increasing the option of the 1 year for 2015 to a 3-5 yr contract (no doubt they already are). As a prop/second row he will only get better as he matures.

Hope Hopkins turns out just as good.

I agree, however Wane seems to prefer bringing Taylor on off the Bench, so Dudson may start more next season.

What are we going to do with any more fees? We already have a top training facility, employ people like Bitcon and so on. There is only so much back room/off field stuff you can do. I don't see any kudos in tying a player to longer contract in order to extract a fee. It just hits the bottom line but a team of our standing, support and success should not need the money.

I hear they need a new humidor in the boardroom!!!!

"what are we going to do with more fees?"

Really?

Are you trying to say that we have no requirement for income except for procuring players?

Besides the obvious costs involved in running a successful sport club there are many hundreds of things that will be assisted with extra cash in the bank.

What do you mean by "kudos?"

Has it escaped your attention that we bought Scott Taylor using cash in the first place?

Great player and a lot of improvement in him yet! Already a big lad but should put a lot of size on in the next few years. Should be ahead of Mossop (who imo is overrated) in selection for England.

Ah good business sense. Say we hit another recession, attendances plummet, sponsorship money goes down the pan with companies not spending on sponsorship deals for less popular sports. It last a good few years. Is it not good for a club to have rainy day money, for many reasons, or shall we just let players move on free because you spat your dummy over a player wanting to do what most normal people would do, double their income, become the best they can be whilst living in a much nicer place?

You really do need to let it go now. It's bordering on an obsession.

I'd said on a post some time ago started by jonh when comparing the 2012 with the 2013 squad, that Scott Taylor will become a fans favourite after a talk I'd had with a Hull KR physio at Christmas time. It appears he was right! He's been outstanding this year and I can only see him progress to get even better, I'm looking forward to see what Hopkins brings to the team next year as I think potentially he'll be quite similar in becoming another fans favourite.

So would you rather we only sign players to contracts that they are 100% going to keep? Genuine question. Do you think we should have signed Sam on a 2 year deal and then let him go for free now? Surely you can see that the whole reason that these long deals are being signed by our better youngsters is as a buffer to ensure that if we do lose them we actually get something in return.

All RL clubs need extra money. Saying "we are Wigan we shouldn't need the money" is complete nonsense.

Great player this season for you guys and looks like he will get better and better . I was hoping he got homesick

Knew he would be as he was last season.
Still gutted he refused to talk about a contract extension with us.

The amount of meters Taylor makes after collision is just awesome, one of the best leg pumps in the game, same goes for Flower. They've both consistently outperformed Mossop for me this season (although I haven't seen the stats). Crosby has been right up there as well. Dudson a bit behind, but work on his discipline

and some work in the weight room can sort that out.

Taylor
Flower
Crosby
Dudson

That's a very good young pack that is only going to get better, and if this lad from Leigh, Sam Hopkins is as good as I'm hearing, the future is bright for the Wigan front row.

Challenge Cup winner and grand finalist are 2 good reasons he didnt

And he's named in the England Knights squad - well deserved.