That is almost signature material.



Because he is not [ithat[/i good and we have better at the club.

No he's not, but I'd rather he played FB and Sam played his natural position, than Deacon play and Sam move to FB.

Possibly had he been fit we might have done that with Amos Roberts out.

Although, I am very excited to see how Sam gets on at fullback. He was devastating against Widnes (although Harlequins will provide a much sterner test!).

Are you joking? World class? He was good but world class?

Are you Stevo in disguse?

Apparently Bails is carrying a knock, so he may not play. TBH I'd have dropped him to the U20's anyway, even if fit, and played Tuson. He was no better than Feca & Pryce, who have both been "demoted".

Agreed.

People talk of Bailey's defensive prowess, but when it actually boils down to it he's our weak link in defense.

And don't even get me started on his offensive capabilities, he has none.

Bails is a passenger in this team, and one of the few players in the squad who hasn't improved under Madge.

Agreed,

I got murdered for saying less on here last week, maybe a few people have now changed their minds about him. Once Hansen is fit he shouldnt play another game barring further injuries

I agree with much of the above and it certainly won’t sit well with those who build him up to be something he’s not on here.

The only thing Bailey has going for him is the kids in the u20’s respect him.

He played a massive part in our loss last week.

I respect the hard work he put in when he first signed and guys like him have played a massive part in all the good things we see today BUT his time is up and once HH is back he shouldn’t be seeing any game time.

Probably the most glib use of "great" in history. Could have been worse though, you could have said he was "world class" like another on this thread.



I sincerely hope not.

Agreed, he's a decent player, and would probably do well in quite a few squads in the league, but he's nowhere near the kind of player to be described as great.

True, but there again, the same could be said for Phelps - I agree that it would be a fair swap...

Just noticed. 12 Wiganers in that squad and thats without Lockers and Goulding who might normally be in.

Nice to see, but Goulding is in the 19 isnt he??

Was just testing.

I count 10?

Joel
Sam
Goulding
Tuson
Marsh
Davies
Gleeson
Deacon
Prescott
Farrell

McIllorums from the academy.
Mossops from the academy.

Not Wiganers though.

I'd go with

Marsh
Goulding
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Fielden
McIlorum
Coley
Mossop
Joel
Farrell

Piggy
Davies
Prescott
Tuson


Leave Sam & Tommy in the halves and give Marsh a run at FB.

That team certainly has a lot more balance to it, but where is that "final pass" going to come from in attack? Stefan Marsh or Liam Farrell?

The advantage of having Tomkins at fullback is he can find that killer pass at pass. His pass for Pryce's try against Saints was (dare I say it) world class.

Another reason why we miss O'Loughlin so much.

I agree, he has set up so many of our tries this season with his passes out wide and is a true Loose Forward in that sense i.e a link between the forwards and the backs. I dont think any of our other players have this ability when they play at Loose Forward and they just play like another Second Row.

With lockers missing, its a shame we don't have Phelps fit - or even Roberts. Both offer that attacking option.

Richards to some degree but lacks the HB skill.

Be interesting to give Goulding a run at FB?

Regarding Sam at FB I can see this becoming his permanent/main position in the future. I have said it before and given the attributes that a modern day FB requires, Sam has them all and in abundance. Imagine him coming into the attacking line, the defending team wont know whether he will step/pass/kick and it will hopefully give us some room to bring in a half back with an excellent long kicking game which is what we have lacked this season. For me there is no reason why Sam wouldnt be a success at FB, ok he has played at SO for England but for me Sam would work better for the team at FB.

Its a bit like the Lockyer situation in reverse. Sam would then end his career playing at SO when he loses a bit of his pace and can settle in the halves.

I Pryce's dandruff clears up. How he managed a full half with that is incredible. Poor lamb.