I'm not sure those are the same.

You often hear fans saying "they'll be a different team to the one we played earlier in the year" etc. Within that traditional reasoning, everyone knows that teams certainly get lucky and can play against a side with injuries, a lame duck coach, out of form etc.

The big difference here however is - We haven't played Leeds or Hull once. We're not 5 or 6 games into the season either, we're pretty much half way through.

This also ain't a "the world's against Wigan" type of thing either. We probably won the LLS shield last year based off two big wins Vs Wakey at the start of the season.

Doesn't make it right however and kinda makes a mockery of a fair comp too.

It is daft I'll give you that. We haven't played Warrington in the league yet but have played Leeds 3 times (inc CC)

I noticed that they'd said Leeds had reviewed the game and then stood people down. That certainly seems very different to all the other clubs and you'd have to feel is linked to the Stevie Ward case as you say. It sends shudders down the spine in many ways if that is a look in to the future. The on field decisions and the disciplinary get plenty of heat currently but if teams start having to review games and stand multiple players down, you're going to be left with such a poor product. Nobody wants to watch second string teams playing each other. The end result of something like this would means young kids, who are likely not ready for it, having to play first team rugby and also injured players being rushed back or pushed through games.

I'm not concerned at all with when we played the likes of Cas, Leeds and Hull and the form they were in at the time or may be in come a couple of months time but I am concerned with how the ridiculous fixture list has been allowed to happen. We've played Cas 3 times and not played Leeds or Hull yet and all I hear on Rugby League podcasts is that loop fixtures are to blame. Loop fixtures aren't to blame for us playing one side 3 times already and no games against a couple of sides. If we take Cas as our example of a team we have a loop fixture against, we should've played them early in the season, in the middle of the season and then one towards the end. We don't have a loop fixture against Leeds, so we should've played on of our fixtures against them in the first half of the season and one in the second half. It all seems quite straightforward but it's been an absolute mess.

We don’t help the fixture format by saying don’t give us any home fixtures in April/May as we are having our pitch relayed!

It’s mid May to mid June, so while that point stands, it doesn’t explain why we’ve had so few home games from Feb to Mid May and why we’ve had to play teams multiple times. It’s not just Wigan either, teams across the league haven’t played each other yet.

Maybe its because there are quite a few teams ground share. Huddersfield, Hull, London must be a nightmare to integrate all the fixtures, pitch relaid not just us.Add Leigh and St Helens to that list.

Maybe its because there are quite a few teams ground share. Huddersfield, Hull, London must be a nightmare to integrate all the fixtures, pitch relaid not just us.Add Leigh and St Helens to that list.

Farrimond 6 year deal according to Peet on sky coverage

Leeming been pictured in a boot and wheelchair. Might be awhile out till we see him

Talk on redvee about Briers coming home as his wife is homesick

Oh no!!!! Please don't let him replace Wellens or go to Wire.

It'd be good for SL to have Briers back here, for sure. He's done great work in Brisbane, under-estimated by Aussie fans and pundits, I think.

Fantastico

Can't find this anywhere. Have you got a link pal?