Draw 1000 season ticket holders out a hat. Well, the modern equivalent. If they turn it down draw another etc etc until all 1000 are gone.

Because they'd give us 500 wouldn't they

I thought they may get 50 or so but you can see why they’d get none. They’ve had their advantages in spades playing games at their home ground.

Here's my suggestion:

All season ticket holders who didn't request a refund (and who want to go to games) are asked to form groups with whoever they would like to attend games with (groups are 1-6 people). I'm sure it would be possible to do this on the ticketing site. So you'd end up with somewhere between 3-5,000 groups I'd guess.

Groups are drawn at random one by one and everyone in that group gets a ticket to the game. Keep going until 1,000 tickets have been allocated.

Next game where fans are allowed in same process again with those groups that went to the Saints game being excluded. Keep going until everyone had been to a game them start again with all groups back in.

Fairest way I can think of.

I don't want to be pessimistic believe me but I'd be really surprised if this went ahead. Wigan has just been added to the Covid red alert list and the situation nationally looks worrying at present.

Yea it’s not looking good is it?

Good luck with that one, I don't think there's been a year yet where we have made a final and the system hasn't broke the day tickets come out.

It won't happen but the club's greatest financial interest would be served by selecting all the fans who have asked for a refund (probably around not more than 1,000 given the %s stated by clubs). The refunds will be based on games they can't attend, so the more games they get them into, the more of their ticket money they can keep.

I agree it makes sense to get that group into any league games that limited numbers of fans can attend.

Valid point

Very true but like you say I doubt they’ll do it as it would be a PR disaster. They also won’t charge people to attend who’ve already said they can keep any refund but I would gladly let them keep all the money laid out for my season ticket and then pay £25 for a ticket for this game to help the clubs coffers. Again though they won’t do that as it’ll cause mayhem. Having just a thousand people in will probably cost money in the end.

It would be a shame if the process of allowing spectators back in was delayed, as our game needs supporters even more than they need the game.

Watching the news this morning there’s a strong suggestion that the crowd pilots will be suspended indefinitely for all sports. I think we have to resign ourselves to no fans until next season.

Yeah, extremely doubtful we’ll see any crowds this year. Watching the big games on TV will be weird but what needs to be done needs to be done I suppose.

Plenty of clubs will be terrified after hearing this news.

Have to agree with you they do seem,if the press is to be believed at 6 month timeframe for restrictions to be in place for sad but there you go

The game is dying a slow death

Gone but entirely predictable IMO. We’re going to see some more Toronto’s, I just wonder if those calling for them to go will say the same about other SL sides in the same predicament....

I went to a few that year, the opener at Cardiff, one at Leigh, one at Wire, the semi at Wembley and then my favourite Ireland v Australia in Limerick, what a good weekend that was.
Let's face it you've got twelve months to save/plan. Save your after 10 beer money and support the game, although I have a feeling the tournament may get pushed back twelve months.

The present situation of clubs not playing home games at their own grounds and at different grounds has made the our game a farce, especially when you see all the football clubs are playing their home games at their own grounds, even the Latics who are in administration are playing at the DW Stadium.

And why play the Challenge Cup Final at a massive Wembley Stadium with no crowd when it might as well be played in the North Of England at a Stadium with a smaller capacity. In 1932, the final could not be held at Wembley and was played at Swinton, but at least there was a crowd.

I don’t understand why I’ll be able to go to the pub and watch the game in a small cramped room but I won’t be able to go to a game in a large open air stadium distant from others. It’s utterly ludicrous and signs the death warrants for many sporting clubs up and down the country

A predictably ill informed rant.
Firstly consolidating league games means Sky are able to show most or all of the games as the incremental costs of deploying teams of crew to all grounds would not be feasible - in turn clubs would struggle to offer any sort of quality coverage for season ticket holders. Likewise most clubs still have a lot of staff furloughed so reopening their stadia will cost a fair amount of money, added to which are the costs of making those stadia covid safe.

The RFL has a contract with Wembley and agreed to play the game there when fans were expected to be present. Ripping that up would no doubt cost a lot more than going ahead with it.

It all comes down to what is the most cost effective way of of completing the season and meeting the requirements of the tv contracts which will enable our clubs the best chance of surviving this. Comparing to football is really pretty pointless.

I think the big issue is when everyone is leaving. At a pub people generally leave at a staggered time (even with the 22:00 curfew, not everyone will leave at that time) whereas at the rugby, pretty much all 12,000 or so will leave at the same time. Think what the steps, concourse, just outside the stadium and the bridge over the canal are like at full time. Likewise the toilets and beer queues at half time. That's a lot worse than any pub (particularly with table service in place).

And everyone arriving around the same time. All needs to be staggered.

Yeah i think some staggering naturally happens when people arrive, I can see how that could be managed with advance warnings that it will take longer than usual for people to go in, stewards ensuring people distance whilst queueing to get in, and don't hang around on the concourse once they are in (might have to close the kiosks to help this) and outside you have unlimited space to queue in.

It's leaving where I think the issue would be, you have a lot less space and a lot more people wanting to be in the same place at the same time. You have to let them access the toilets on the concourse so you either let them leave as normal, resulting in crowds on the stairs and concourse, or you limit the amount that leave at a time, which would probably mean people are crowding on the concourse and steps inside the stadium for longer. Plus you'll get people who will just not do as they're told when leaving, the threat of being kicked out isn't a big deal if you want to leave anyway and have a train/bus to catch or whatever. A lot of our stewards don't exactly put the fear of God into you either.

Our usual crowds would be at 50% or so of the ground capacity and that would clearly be too much in the current climate but I don’t see why grounds couldn’t run at 10/20% of capacity for example. If they’re saying people can go to pubs, restaurants etc. were you’re sat inside and now with colder weather coming any decent ventilation is unlikely, you can go on an aeroplane in a confined space with 200-500 other people etc then it seems strange to say you can’t go and sit in the open air, metres away from other people to watch live sport. Yes you may need to stagger exits from stadium by block or similar, you may need one way systems to go to the toilet, you may need to get apps in place to order food/drink, local pubs may need to do bookings only on match days to limit numbers, you may have to encourage people to use their own transport where possible but it seems very doable in comparison.

I’m not saying it should be done now or moaning about it, people’s health comes first but you can understand sports clubs owners/chief Execs being confused that pubs, restaurants and airlines are being given leeway when their circumstances are probably even harder to make secure and police.