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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"With Noble's reluctance to give Sam Tomkins a run in the side, Ainscough a bit part player and not a regular. Is it a possibility that another big Super League team comes in and gives IL an offer he can not turn down. I am sure that these players would move on to get first team rugby.'"
And when are wire going to give their youngsters a chance?
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| Ainscough isn't even a bit part player! He's only played one SL game, it's a joke! These young lads don't deserve how they're getting treated! They deserve to be given a shot. They're not gaining anything through sitting on the sidelines and playing in the reserves. How are they meant to develop?
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| Ainscough is now a test of Noble's ethos that they will stay in the side. Mossop & Sam need to be tried next.
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| RU will be the only place we lose these two player to
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| Quote ="Katrina"Ainscough isn't even a bit part player! He's only played one SL game, it's a joke! These young lads don't deserve how they're getting treated! They deserve to be given a shot. They're not gaining anything through sitting on the sidelines and playing in the reserves. How are they meant to develop?'"
He was still playing U18 academy last year. We've only played three games this season
He has plenty time, have some patience.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And when are wire going to give their youngsters a chance?'"
Thats nothing to do with us Brian, he has a fair point.
Based on last night, Ainscough should start every game from this point onwards. But i have no confidence in Noble that he will continue to pick him.
And how long until Tomkins gets fed up?
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| ainscough will be on the wing next week.
mossop may get a game the way our back rowers are falling
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He was still playing U18 academy last year. We've only played three games this season
He has plenty time, have some patience.'"
Agreed
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"And how long until Tomkins gets fed up?'"
You have to wonder don't you?! Perhaps Seeling was right and his is being used in a fight between Noble & IL. There has to be a reason he won't get a look in and our hooker is clearly injured.
Where did Charlie go anyway?!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And when are wire going to give their youngsters a chance?'"
In our defeat to Saints we had Penny,Riley, Blythe, Harrison that have come through our youth system. That is an improvement on recent years. However Rogues there is no point producing quality if you are not going to develop them and let them play, giving other clubs the chance to reap the benefits. You advocate the youth system but is the Wigan club utlising it to its effective best, probably not.
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"Thats nothing to do with us Brian, he has a fair point.
Based on last night, Ainscough should start every game from this point onwards. But i have no confidence in Noble that he will continue to pick him.
:2jj41udwAnd how long until Tomkins gets fed up?[/
He's fed up now, if he cant get a game at stand off in front of Smith then he's wasting his time here at Wigan.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"In our defeat to Saints we had Penny,Riley, Blythe, Harrison that have come through our youth system. That is an improvement on recent years. However Rogues there is no point producing quality if you are not going to develop them and let them play, giving other clubs the chance to reap the benefits. You advocate the youth system but is the Wigan club utlising it to its effective best, probably not.'"
And you've dropped Penny for this week.
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| Quote ="AJ"
Where did Charlie go anyway?!'"
Alex banned him for personal insults i think. (check my sig)
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"Alex banned him for personal insults i think. (check my sig)'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And you've dropped Penny for this week.'"
You are right, should have been King on performances - Lowes obviously does not rate him.However Warrington admit that their youth system needs developing but from reading your posts you have a passion for the youth team which is commendable. However to my original post I could see the likes of Warrington who need a replacement for Briers making a cheeky bid and who is to say that other clubs might fancy cherry picking some of your best youth. I can forsee these players getting dis heartened with Noble.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"You are right, should have been King on performances - Lowes obviously does not rate him.However Warrington admit that their youth system needs developing but from reading your posts you have a passion for the youth team which is commendable. However to my original post I could see the likes of Warrington who need a replacement for Briers making a cheeky bid and who is to say that other clubs might fancy cherry picking some of your best youth. I can forsee these players getting dis heartened with Noble.'"
Warrington have already tried to sign Sam (3 times)
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"And how long until Tomkins gets fed up?'"
The situation with Sam is playing right into Wigan's hands.
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| There is nobody more supportive of young Wigan academy players than I am.
However, I would NOT like to see a Wigan backline with Ainscough, Goulding and Tomkins in it so early in their careers unless we have desperate injury crisis. It would be suicide for them and the team. I would rather they be drip fed into the team.
Remember Aspinwall, Brown and Robinson and what happened to them.
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"
And how long until Tomkins gets fed up?'"
Been saying this for a long time and until I'm blue in the face.
It is now or never IMO.
Smith and Leuluai are both very good scrum halves but neither is a stand off.
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| Quote ="Bridger"Been saying this for a long time and until I'm blue in the face.
It is now or never IMO.
Smith and Leuluai are both very good scrum halves but neither is a stand off.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And when are wire going to give their youngsters a chance?'"
Like Riley, Blythe, Harrison, Penny?
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| Quote ="Ande"Like Riley, Blythe, Harrison, Penny?'"
4? wow!
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| Quote ="Ande"Like Riley, Blythe, Harrison, Penny?'" Wigan had 8 players last night that have come through the academy.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"With Noble's reluctance to give Sam Tomkins a run in the side, Ainscough a bit part player and not a regular. Is it a possibility that another big Super League team comes in and gives IL an offer he can not turn down. I am sure that these players would move on to get first team rugby.'"
My concern with Wigan is that Noble has somehow managed to turn them into a team of 2nd rate Aussies.............
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| Quote ="Wide Nose Viking"My concern with Wigan is that Noble has somehow managed to turn them into a team of 2nd rate Aussies.............'"
Correct, i said this last night.
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