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| Calls that Sheffield would have done better. what a Joke! just taunts from the Northern Parochials? Sheffield remember could not beat us! the likes of the teams who feel they are Super League quality Featherstone and Halifax would have been destroyed yesterday.
Wigan took it serious, willing to give St Helens two league points and rest players last Monday, yes many of us travelled in Hope, that first period was fairly good, but once the flood gates opened, heads went down by the minute, tackling was abysmal as we have seen over and over again this season, what are the coaching staff doing during the week? Some young players heads have been fed rubbish from their personal managers telling them they are much better currently than they are!
The game was a terrible advertisement for the game, 6,000? we took around 200-300, their must have been some Leigh people and also general rugby fans, so how many travelled 12 miles from Wigan? The match officials did not help, two terrible calls from the touch line, resulted in tries, when the referee had made the right call? The number of penalties, you are not telling me that Wigan did not commit more fouls at the play the ball, but got away with it. TV Viewers must have fell away even with 20 minutes to go!
What a bad day for us, but also for the sport! and they feel that splitting half way through the season to three leagues is the answer! Woods is killing the game, would you as a major sponsor be involved with rugby league, I know I would not currently advise any client to!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Calls that Sheffield would have done better. what a Joke! just taunts from the Northern Parochials? Sheffield remember could not beat us! the likes of the teams who feel they are Super League quality Featherstone and Halifax would have been destroyed yesterday.
Wigan took it serious, willing to give St Helens two league points and rest players last Monday, yes many of us travelled in Hope, that first period was fairly good, but once the flood gates opened, heads went down by the minute, tackling was abysmal as we have seen over and over again this season, what are the coaching staff doing during the week? Some young players heads have been fed rubbish from their personal managers telling them they are much better currently than they are!
The game was a terrible advertisement for the game, 6,000? we took around 200-300, their must have been some Leigh people and also general rugby fans, so how many travelled 12 miles from Wigan? The match officials did not help, two terrible calls from the touch line, resulted in tries, when the referee had made the right call? The number of penalties, you are not telling me that Wigan did not commit more fouls at the play the ball, but got away with it. TV Viewers must have fell away even with 20 minutes to go!
What a bad day for us, but also for the sport! and they feel that splitting half way through the season to three leagues is the answer! Woods is killing the game, would you as a major sponsor be involved with rugby league, I know I would not currently advise any client to!'"
I can assure you Sheffield would have given far more effort today. That is what was missing.
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| Maybe they should have given it a couple of weeks ago and they could have shown the nation how much effort they have.
They were picked off easily by the worst ever London team and look what the Pies did to them
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| what were the two calls from the touchies? did not spot those? Maybe the high shot on wonder kid, look at the TV the arm ended up around the neck technically its a high shot and against the laws of the game so that was not a bad call.
There was one stripped ball where I thought the wigan player just let go of it, otherwise there was very little we could complain about from the officials.
We were outclassed in every quarter! Why? inexperienced youth and lack of leadership on the pitch and off it.
We have some talent out there! it just does not play as a team, our defensive line is evidence of that, a team that does not communicate leave gaps.
Yes now and again technique is poor but usually that's because we are on the back foot and stepping the wrong way.
There is no passion in the club or the shirt, we are not going to win until that is sorted out
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| Ashamed and disgusted were the words that came to mind on our 5-6 hour return journey from Leigh last night. Can't believe we left at 9:30 am and came back at 12:30 am to watch a completely gutless performance. I'm ashamed at the players for even thinking that was acceptable as well as Rea for being a clueless buffoon, playing a player like J'OC at Stand off when he has failed at so called 'easier' positions on the wing, centre, full back and at second row(iirc).
I think the only reason I will be going to the Leeds game on Thursday is to boo the players as they come out onto the field, while watching the majority politely clap them on, like the deserve that much.
A lot of money was spent on tickets, food and petrol on the way up, and to come back that depressed was amazing. I was expecting a loss, but I was hopefully we'd show some backbone. I was wrong.
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| good job they chose to stage the game where they did then!!!! just think if they had moved it to hmmm lets say Doncaster like suggested, maybe we might have got an extra 50 there and the pies would have had maybe a 1000 less! Well done the RFL
Did anyone actually have any belief that we were going to win this game? My only hope, like it was at the start of the season, just compete in games, if we are losing that's not too bad if we are at least putting up a fight when we are losing and looking as tho we care! Sadly yesterday we competed for what might have been 10 minutes! at the most, then gave up. Dropping the ball in the first set I think set the scene for the whole game. would love to see the stats on how many sets we completed, we didn't have the ball very much so it cannot have been difficult to count.
We all know, the club needs a culture change! If you are going to spend to the salary cap, spend wisely. The season has gone, another win before the end would be nice, I doubt we will get it. Next year IF we are still up and running is important, a decision has to be made at the club if they want to be TOP FLIGHT promotion and demotion will at least give the players and coach something to aim at!
Have I seen much live rugby this season at the stoop? NOPE, but its not just because of the way they are playing, will I be turning up when I can next year! of course I will I love rugby league as a sport so I will support my local team, and yes I do go to Skolars as well now and again.
All of you that are ripping up your season tickets, hope you continue to watch RL somewhere its too good a sport to give it up
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| Quote ="The Threepennies"I can assure you Sheffield would have given far more effort today. That is what was missing.'"
Oh surprise, East Yorkshire, poster?? I have not visited the Wigan forum today or ever?
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| I am still wondering where they are, Where were all the other 10, 000 so called Pie fans, was the bus delayed out of depot, the game is in Wigan really and those so called fans did not bother....shame on them only £3.80 on t'bus..... though they will all come out the woodwork now.
Lost all respect for Wigan now, big club..........not, Leigh......Proper place, they, with passion, hate anyone from Wigan
Lenigan better send out a search party, though David Attenborough, should be called in to do a one hour special on the rarely seen lesser spotted Pie eater, in a filed just outside Thatto Heath...................Would make fascinating TV
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| Quote ="Orientwestsider"I am still wondering where they are, Where were all the other 10, 000 so called Pie fans, was the bus delayed out of depot, the game is in Wigan really and those so called fans did not bother....shame on them only £3.80 on t'bus..... though they will all come out the woodwork now.
Lost all respect for Wigan now, big club..........not, Leigh......Proper place, they, with passion, hate anyone from Wigan
Lenigan better send out a search party, though David Attenborough, should be called in to do a one hour special on the rarely seen lesser spotted Pie eater, in a filed just outside Thatto Heath...................Would make fascinating TV'"
Yes, that's what you should be concerning yourself with, the attendance, don't let the performance of your team bother you at all, priorities and all that...........
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| Do people actually think we played that badly? Genuine question.
My overriding impression from the game was that, although we are rubbish, Wigan were red-hot. They are just far, far too good for a team such as ours. They didn't give us any chances, and when we did have the ball, we haven't a clue what to do with it. They've got strike players, leaders, relentless forwards, a well drilled defence. We don't have any of those. Are you in some way surprised we got tubbed?
My overriding emotion is not anger, it is depression. Depression that after 33 years, London rugby league does not appear to be able to compete. At all.
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| We should have just taken the two...................
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| Surprising to note that we have had More Visitors all Non Bronco Fan visitors than ever before today!
The Penguin, we started off doing what I asked for on twitter, to just play it simply and that is when we held Wigan, our line of defence was not bad and some of the tackling was superb! But when an opposition has 75% of the ball, what can we really expect, any team would have buckled at some stage, yes even the Eagles.
Yesterday was more like going back to the day before the limited tackles rule. The match officials did nothing to help, in football, the three of them would be dropped next weekend, especially the referee, when he takes advice on two occasions from the side, and both were long, and immediately lead to further tries!
In all The RFL have a lot to answer for yesterday, it has done even more damage to the opinion of the game to TV viewers, more and more people I know once RL fans are saying they enjoy the union more on TV?
Well the two points would have stopped the nil!
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| On answer to the Broncos team YES I think we were shameful, weak, clueless and the team were disloyal to every fan that travelled by putting in no effort at all. Friends who watched the game couldnt believe LB were such a non competitive team. In answer to your question about Wigan - again yes they were technically brilliant but more importantly they played with pride and passion. Strange we have fans who will support and clap the team no matter what dross they serve up and Wigan have fans who cant t be bothered to pay a local bus fare to get to the game but I bet they will all be excellent journeymen when it comes to Wembley they will have so many fans on that day. The pride and passion Wigan team play with deserve better from it's fans.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Apart from the game, it was quite a nice day out - good weather, Wigan fans picnicing on the grass and around 'The Whistling Wren', nice ground with friendly and helpful staff (don't eat the pies, though!)'"
Could have fooled me - Listy and Leeboy had two each!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Surprising to note that we have had More Visitors all Non Bronco Fan visitors than ever before today!
The Penguin, we started off doing what I asked for on twitter, to just play it simply and that is when we held Wigan, our line of defence was not bad and some of the tackling was superb! But when an opposition has 75% of the ball, what can we really expect, any team would have buckled at some stage, yes even the Eagles.
Yesterday was more like going back to the day before the limited tackles rule. The match officials did nothing to help, in football, the three of them would be dropped next weekend, especially the referee, when he takes advice on two occasions from the side, and both were long, and immediately lead to further tries!
In all The RFL have a lot to answer for yesterday, it has done even more damage to the opinion of the game to TV viewers, more and more people I know once RL fans are saying they enjoy the union more on TV?
Well the two points would have stopped the nil!'"
Ridiculous post. Yesterday's drubbing was just one of a series of diabolical efforts this season and to blame the RFL and the officials is simply to stick ones head where the sun doesn't shine.
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| still waiting for someone to come up with why the officials were so rubbish? What is wrong with the ref asking the touchies what he saw errrr that is what they are there for
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| Even in the club's bleakest moments playing in the murk at Chiswick, unsure if they were going to get paid the players generally performed with more pride, courage and passion than that shower did yesterday.
This is one of the few RL showpiece games shown on the BBC and we let the game down.
Something has been going wrong with the club since we entered SL, now it doesn't feel like a club anymore, more like just a bunch of overpaid mercenaries, a kit bag and a small odd group of never say die, hairshirt wearing fans.
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| Quote ="scimitars"Even in the club's bleakest moments playing in the murk at Chiswick, unsure if they were going to get paid the players generally performed with more pride, courage and passion than that shower did yesterday.
This is one of the few RL showpiece games shown on the BBC and we let the game down.
Something has been going wrong with the club since we entered SL, now it doesn't feel like a club anymore, more like just a bunch of overpaid mercenaries, a kit bag and a small odd group of never say die, hairshirt wearing fans.'"
The problems are more recent than that. As much as David Hughes money has saved the Broncos his decisions on how to run the club are killing it.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"The problems are more recent than that. As much as David Hughes money has saved the Broncos his decisions on how to run the club are killing it.'"
This..........and pretty much only this!
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| Quote ="jbuzza"The problems are more recent than that. As much as David Hughes money has saved the Broncos his decisions on how to run the club are killing it.'"
I find it hard to have sympathy for him anymore- pumping money into a losing cause might be noble, but pumping money into a losing cause without taking steps to turn it into a winning one is idiocy.
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| Quote ="stayinlondon"On answer to the Broncos team YES I think we were shameful, weak, clueless and the team were disloyal to every fan that travelled by putting in no effort at all. Friends who watched the game couldnt believe LB were such a non competitive team. In answer to your question about Wigan - again yes they were technically brilliant but more importantly they played with pride and passion. Strange we have fans who will support and clap the team no matter what dross they serve up and Wigan have fans who cant t be bothered to pay a local bus fare to get to the game but I bet they will all be excellent journeymen when it comes to Wembley they will have so many fans on that day. The pride and passion Wigan team play with deserve better from it's fans.'"
When it looked like Wigan might be relegated their crowds actually increased. Wigan fans are very loyal, even if they don't turn out to watch dross like the Broncos
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| The club has never been very well run, there was a false dawn when Lenegan took over before retreating into his comfort zone and dropping DH in it. An earlier post mentioned getting someone like Branson involved but we have all been there too.
There is just something about the club now where players don't play to their potential and we end up playing a dreary boring brand of RL to the point where committed fans like myself can no longer be bothered to turn up.
We wrecked a showpiece semi final yesterday. thankfully the 2 teams on display today did a bit to restore the games credibility.
London needs a successful SL club it doesn't need another makeweight, there are enough of them around the M62!
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| Not long back after making a weekend of it. My thoughts on the weekend
Good points:
Leigh East v Elland
Leigh East's clubhouse
Chicken Balti pies
New York Brass Band
Beers and comradery with Broncos fans
Generosity of Leigh's board with the hotel rooms
Park Inn's breakfast
Oldham's clubhouse and the friendly Roughyed and Crusaders fans
Oldham v Crusaders
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Cheerleaders had changed their outfits from the ones worn at the National Rail finals
Everything between 5 and 7 yesterday
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| Bentham was dreadful but so were London.
Wigan did the basics well - no more than that.
It is nearly August now, 10 May was the last time we kept a Super League side to below 30, since then: 64, 46, 30, 82, 46, 44, 34, 38, 70.
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| No he wasn't.....maybe one mistake with the high shot on Tompkins other than that we tried to slow the play down and he penalised us
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