Would that have been Harlequins fault?

Shot down in flames I am afraid. Applied but didn't even get considered

. I wouldn't have minded so much, but given I get paid a lot more that was on offer, by companies that live in the real world, I found it particilarly annoying that I was dismissed without an interview. It may well have been that I didn't hold a marketing or business degree, or that I come from a sales background, or that I am ginger....ah well, at least I can continue to snipe from these boards


Every cloud and all that

I was sure there would be posters/leaflets advertising the Wigan game maybe something along the lines of 'Now you know where we are, why not come back!" or maybe something a little catchy! Was surprised when I saw nothing.

I thought the crowd and day was a great success and congratulations to all involved. However we had 6000k people yesterday of whom at least 4000 may have been newcomers, of whom we know nothing about and no way of contacting. Seems a lost opportunity.

Yes a degree opens lots of doors. Just look at the great brains running the banks and government, never mind Quins RL. Several years at Uni makes for a superior being. Of course hard work, learning the ropes from the bottom up etc. these days is looked down upon. The younger generation just expect to go straight in at the top because they have been brain washed to believe it is their right.

I am sure that if the Quins RL staff and to some degree players read these boards regularly they might wonder why they bother. To often they get little credit, but it has hard to make fine lace when you can only afford sack cloth. Still I enjoyed the day yesterday and my mate who came along really enjoyed how the "game flowed, unlike the Six Nations", he seemed won over to come again.

Yes. Their posession of a degree is the reason why they've failed so miserably.

That chip on your shoulder must really cause problems for your peripheral vision.

Suppose we'll see next Saturday - from what I read it sounded like the Aussie fans enjoyed themselves, and the bars! Perhaps if they could have been allowed buy a ticket for next week's game along with their drinks more of them would come back for the Wigan game. I'm not advocating taking avantage of the inebriated (no I probably am really!) but they might have been easier to persuade to part with their dosh while bevvied, and then with the ticket bought and paid for and stuffed in the back of the wallet, more likely to come back! If you've already paid then you'd surely be more likely to use it surely! The pie eaters usually bring a large support with them so it would have been a good opportunity to put the crowd figure up to the same level as for yesterday's friendly. If the game is good (with a good crowd, competive game , us winning!) those guys might keep on coming back. Hope its not a missed opportunity,even if only a few hundred came back it could be something to build on.

No, just had to deal with to many no it all's straight of the gravey train. It used to bother me, now i am older I just can't be ar$ed to get worked up by it. I have I suppose you might say I have eaten my chip!

mmhmm. God forbid we create a new generation of ambitious graduates. The world as we know it will completely go up the spout!

Well we (volunteers) were getting people to fill in a contact form to enter a draw to win a box for the last game of the season. There were a hell of a lot of forms and there were none left to fill in so hopefully we have a mweans of contacting some of them.

Nothing to do with ambition, good on them for that I say. It is when they start telling somebody after two minutes how to do a job when they clearly don't understand the job in the first place, bad mouth to a manager the person trying to show them the job (to score brown nose points) and then when it all comes out they end up with egg on the face because they were totally in the wrong.


Give a grad. enough rope and they eventually hang themselves with it. We have all been there - grad or non-grad. Part of lifes great colour scheme.

Just getting the brain and body back into order after a long weekend.

Had a great day out, and I am pretty sure two of the guys of the four guys will be back next weekend. Great to see the bar packed post game and the covers band playing some tunes, interesting selection of the 'kylie' girl.

Few things, there were a heap more Aussies/Kiwis at the game then the few I attended last season (my first here in London). Whether we like it or not, TW is a long way out of town for the typical antipodean who lives in central london. This will always go against the club while trying to attract this market, unfortunately there is nothing that can be done. Even though from Clapham Junction, the train ride is quicker and more plesant then crossing town on the tube there is the mentality that if you have to catch an overland train it is 'too far away'. I used to think the same thing when I first arrived here.

I was most dissapointed though though with the lack of information, advertisements and call to action in promoting future Harlequins games. This was compounded at full time with the ground announcer giving out the wrong date and club for next weeks game.

This was a massive opportunity by the club to convert the casual fan to return in the future. I was very suprised there wasnt an information booth/tent at least giving out information on membership/season tickets, fixture lists, how to purchase tickets (call to action). Even the program I am struggling to find out information regarding ticketing/season tickets. There is a half page write up about future games, but still no call to action. Knowing the travelling and social habbits of this market the club could have put together a multi game ticket (voucher) at a discounted rate to purchase on the day or in the days following the game. This getting a commitment to return to a few games without the big commitment of a season ticket. Very concerning the lack of action.

Another thing I found disturbing was the lack of young kids at the games I have atttended. I know yesterdays game was marketed at the antipodeans, but I seriously think there should be a big push at attracting the young ones to the stoop. Is there season ticket that is given out to junior players in london? Why arent the grommets playing on the field at half time? Every kid that comes through the gate drags along dad and or mum, and possibly siblings and friends. We need to get the kids while they are young and convert them for life. If anyone thinks we are crazy for targeting kids you only need to look at the success the gold coast titans have had in attracting young families to their games. This is a club that once struggled to get 5000 through their gates and now average over 20,000. I have also been involved in a sport who saw a significant increase on their gates and merchandise sales through similar promotions.

The ground announcer said that the delay was due to "Transport difficulties" and I saw some of the Manly team arrive in a small coach. They were pretty late, getting into the ground at about 2.15 p.m.

Welcome aboard the HMS QuinsRL......it's like the titanic, but without the captain or ANY lifeboats


Let's not take the gloss of what was a great day. YES things could have been done better, but all in all, it was a 100% complete success.
Next up, the goons. I can't make the game as I am off to the west country, but I am sure we will get 6k for the game...and more importantly 2 points!!

Good work, just the trick.

I can't believe Aussies of all people are chelping about the distance. Granted they wouldn't have got the best impression what with the engineering works mucking up the trains but, from West London where the majority of aussies live, it is an easy journey. I live in Southampton FFS, they have no right to complain!

Gutterfax... Not trying to take the gloss off a great day at all. I must say I am aware that it sounds like the clubs front office is quite under-resourced in terms of staff and budgets so I wont be too critical as I can relate to this scenario. I am sure that the guys/girls in the front office probably work their asses off and go above and beyond what is required of them.

However, yesterday I am sure was about raising the profile of RL in London, opening Quins RL up to a new market and putting more £'s into the club. It looks like this was acheived, however we cannot sit back and wait for them to return as without the clubs help they wont be back. An aspiring club like Quins needs to make it as simple as possible for a fan to get a ticket and I feel yesterday there wasnt enough done to promote this to the fans.

........and I understand that Alison may well be data entering these records this week.....just a shame the club have to rely on people like her and the rest of the volunteers to get things done.
The club do need to sort this out. There are a hard core of people who have given far too much to the club for very little appreciation or credit, yet they keep on coming back. These people are in some cases, the reason we even have a club, yet what they do (and they do not look for this) is totally overlooked.
For example, google data entry jobs and you will see that it's a £7 to £9 an hour job.......but we rely on volunteers

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If Alison and the volunteers don't get something other than a fleece for their efforts this year, I will be disgusted


Mini-Rant over

Double or Quits mate

GF thanks for your support, you are right I am in the office this week for a meeting with the office management and entering the data from the sheets. Hundreds of them. I will then follow the data entry up with phone calls to try and get people interested, I will hit as many as possible before the weekend. The volunteers did a great job yesterday with the data entry and the collections. A number of the volunteers who came along to sell season tickets and push sales were upset at the low profile of the Wigan information and season ticket sales, this upset includes me and I will take this up with the club. I will discuss fans feelings about this.

I don't mind helping the club out and won't be looking for a fleece or anything but I will be expecting them to listento me.

You never know chuck, they may offer you a poster off the wall at the end of the season, if yer lucky



ps great work as ever well done all.

Naff orf, we don't want your type dahn 'ere

never underestimate the power of the fleece



Seriously though, it has taken a lot of nagging to get to this stage and the first "event" would appear at first glance to have been a success....the trick is, to keep it going.
If you have Mobile telephone numbers, I would imagine the best way to connect with these people would be by SMS. I am more than happy to donate my mobile phone BILL to the cause if you want to connect that way.
Happy typing

100's of records eh. I think I'd manage about 1 every 5 minutes

Of course not. The sensible course of action for the Quinze management was to sit there with their feet up having been handed an excellent opportunity to boost the appeal of the club in the capital.

Deary me

The question was genuine, was the fault with Quins, the coach company or Manly? Just who was responsible for the transport arrangements?

Sounds like a coach company blunder to me...