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| That game was winnable even though Halifax played the better Rugby. Our discipline should have been better, our only plan was kick high to the right it worked once but that was the exception and repetitive kicks went to Halifax hands. Our right flank defence was woeful.
Hewer got a couple wrong but it would be churlish to blame him for the defeat.
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| Quote ="reffy"That game was winnable even though Halifax played the better Rugby. Our discipline should have been better, our only plan was kick high to the right it worked once but that was the exception and repetitive kicks went to Halifax hands. Our right flank defence was woeful.
Hewer got a couple wrong but it would be churlish to blame him for the defeat.'"
Reffing I don’t think we made one clear break all the game, not much between these two teams, I thought Fax slow the game down at every opportunity.
Pownhall had a mare of a game poor in defence and crazy to moan after his yellow card.I agree about our kicking game , Josh Woods should try running at the defensive line.Great support from the Leythers though not good with some chants.
I’m not to downbeat though,Douglas ,Riddy,Luke Adamson had good games, I think we can beat Fev next week, but let’s try giving our backs a chance to run.
The turning point for me was the Ref giving an obstruction to a Fax, when a Fax clearly knocked on early in the second half, Fax scored back to back tries from this.
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| I'd replace Josh Woods with Olly Russell next week....he will 'run at defences'.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I'd replace Josh Woods with Olly Russell next week....he will 'run at defences'.'"
I agree Budge, well said pal.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I'd replace Josh Woods with Olly Russell next week....he will 'run at defences'.'"
Won’t do any harm Budge, at least give it a try.
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| A disappointing result - yes. A disappointing performance - yes, although Fax deserve credit for pressurising us into mistakes. However, it's no disgrace coming within seven points (somewhat fortunately) of a team that is confident of top four.
Not that it influenced the final result, but how poor were Gareth Hewer and his t.j's today? (for both teams I must add) I'm not surprised at players getting frustrated!
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| perhaps we need a change or variation in tactics rather than personnel im sure when our stand off gets fit he too will "run at the line"
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| Riddy & Woods are too similar. Russell should give us other options than just relying on a kicking game.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Riddy & Woods are too similar. Russell should give us other options than just relying on a kicking game.'"
100% spot on.
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| Aye aye,lost a game have we
Those halves won us the game last week with there kicking game - now it’s doom and gloom, unreal some people
Anyone know a decent winger going spare - coz were going to need one for a few weeks
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| The 'kicking game' worked v Toulouse when we were winning narrowly and the team was playing well. When not doing so, you need a 'spark' like somebody making a break
So are you saying we shouldn't give Olly Russell a chance ?
I only suggested it because clubs don't have 'backs on the bench' so obviously it's start with him, or not at all.
As for a 'winger' Adam Swift will do nicely....
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"The 'kicking game' worked v Toulouse when we were winning narrowly and the team was playing well. When not doing so, you need a 'spark' like somebody making a break
So are you saying we shouldn't give Olly Russell a chance ?
I only suggested it because clubs don't have 'backs on the bench' so obviously it's start with him, or not at all.
As for a 'winger' Adam Swift will do nicely....
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Although i agree Budge ,you are only allowed 5 DR/Loanees in your 17,how/were could we fit swifty in?
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| It was a bit of a ' war of atrittion ' with both teams trying to wear each other out , in the end Fax had that bit more confidence in offloading and speed in getting the ball wide , they are after all a squad that has been together a couple of years now
and yes when chasing a game just keep putting up a kick wont cut it , the kick Woods put straight into touch should have been ' run ' with the centre or wing being the kicker behind the Fax line
Yes they scored out wide twice in the 2 nd half but both times that side was outnumbered , once because it was mcnally making the tackle in the centre to stop them scoring , just good play by a clever player like murrel
Overal not a bad display , and we will get better as the games go on , as long as we dont lose too many players , yes Johnny that applause will cost a couple of games , we cannot afford stuff like that anymore
It could quite easily be a few more weeks before we get any more points on the table , but we expected that anyway
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| Quote ="Cokey"Although i agree Budge ,you are only allowed 5 DR/Loanees in your 17,how/were could we fit swifty in?'"
Luke Douglas is only here for a month, so next week will be his final game for us (probably) Unless Saints send him back for another 1 month loan.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"
I think Luke has 2 more games with us,but like you say,he might come back for another month.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"The 'kicking game' worked v Toulouse when we were winning narrowly and the team was playing well. When not doing so, you need a 'spark' like somebody making a break
So are you saying we shouldn't give Olly Russell a chance ?
I only suggested it because clubs don't have 'backs on the bench' so obviously it's start with him, or not at all.
As for a 'winger' Adam Swift will do nicely....
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I’m saying there is no need for knee jerk reactions - I’m sure Russell will get his chance be it full back or halves at some point. I wouldn’t change the halves at this point, they need time to work together
And Swift was the first name I thought of in all honesty, with one of the other DR from Saints dropping out - possibly give O Donnell a run. Will be a test as to how this DR agreement is going to pan out
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| Had ben kaye passed his head test then Moore would not have had to play the full game at hooker.. I think fax would of won by more if he had played. Fax are still missing key players but good luck for the rest of your season always enjoy the fax v leigh games.
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| Quote ="ColD"Aye aye,lost a game have we
- now it’s doom and gloom'"
It isn’t doom and gloom, it is knowing the difference between a good performance and less good one, as I said in the title, “disappointing”.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"It was a bit of a ' war of atrittion ' with both teams trying to wear each other out , in the end Fax had that bit more confidence in offloading and speed in getting the ball wide , they are after all a squad that has been together a couple of years now
and yes when chasing a game just keep putting up a kick wont cut it , the kick Woods put straight into touch should have been ' run ' with the centre or wing being the kicker behind the Fax line
Yes they scored out wide twice in the 2 nd half but both times that side was outnumbered , once because it was mcnally making the tackle in the centre to stop them scoring , just good play by a clever player like murrel
Overal not a bad display , and we will get better as the games go on , as long as we dont lose too many players , yes Johnny that applause will cost a couple of games , we cannot afford stuff like that anymore
It could quite easily be a few more weeks before we get any more points on the table , but we expected that anyway'"
It looks like you have put together a decent team and certainly your backs look decent at this level but as ive mentioned before you have at least 3 players in the Adamson's and Brooks who would struggle to be starters for mid table championship teams and that is always going to hurt. Add a bit more beef to your pack and those backs are going to score a lot of tries.
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| Can’t believe nobody has mentioned the huge up and under that did work at the start of the 2nd half that was not only knocked on by the winger, but then one of our players was held back as he tried to touch down. That would have been at least 18-18, but somehow Hewer gives a 20 meters tap, and then goes on to give every 50/50 decision to Fax resulting in 3 tries conceded in 15 minutes. Then as soon as the game is gone at 32-14, suddenly we are the recipient of those decisions.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"Can’t believe nobody has mentioned the huge up and under that did work at the start of the 2nd half that was not only knocked on by the winger, but then one of our players was held back as he tried to touch down. That would have been at least 18-18, but somehow Hewer gives a 20 meters tap, and then goes on to give every 50/50 decision to Fax resulting in 3 tries conceded in 15 minutes. Then as soon as the game is gone at 32-14, suddenly we are the recipient of those decisions.'"
CL I think you will find I mention this kick in my last sentence of my first post on this subject, as I felt it had a big bearing on the game , soon after Fax scored back to back tries which put the game beyond us.
All in all Fax still deserved to win,but I wasn’t to downhearted ,Fax and ourselves are evenly matched and along with Fev will fight out the 5th spot in the League.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"
All in all Fax still deserved to win,but I wasn’t to downhearted ,Fax and ourselves are evenly matched and along with Fev will fight out the 5th spot in the League.'"
You keep telling yourself that Charlie. I think come the end of the season leigh would have had a really good year if they are within 6 points on the league table of either Fax or Fev.
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| I thought it was a great match for the neutral fan. Fax just about deserved the win which bodes well for us considering the amount of first choice lads we had out. Leigh looked very good for the first 20 minutes but after that you could sence the tide turning. Both clubs have a good season to look forward to. It was good to see Mr Caroli and his friends although sad not to have Frank with us, we did however raise a glass to him in't Three Pigs after the match. All in all though a good day out yesterday and I hope we both get wins next week. Up The Fax!
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| Leigh’s goal for this season is to simply stay in the division. Our ability to do anything beyond that lies with how well the DR arrangement goes.
Given that, we can’t be surprised to lose away to a team that will be expected to be in the play offs
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"It looks like you have put together a decent team and certainly your backs look decent at this level but as ive mentioned before you have at least 3 players in the Adamson's and Brooks who would struggle to be starters for mid table championship teams and that is always going to hurt. Add a bit more beef to your pack and those backs are going to score a lot of tries.'"
Brooks played regularly for the team that finished 5th last year.
That aside, I do agree with your general point. We’ve done a lot of shopping at Rochdale and swinton this close season. Personally I expect us to finish around 10th.
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