I thought we got away with two points that we shouldn't have had. Still, I'd rather be second best and win, than outplay your opposition and get beat.

I must be easily pleased but I'm pretty optimistic from what I've seen so far. Some new faces e.g. Holroyd look good to me. New signing Fitzgibbon is a plus. Looks like we are on a par with Cats/HKR/Leeds but Wigan & Saints are, of course, the Challenge. I was very worried how game was going with high tackles after the first two games but that seems to have settled down too. I like Sam Burgess, honest, very high profile but good bloke and glad he's with Wire.

Yes rubber ... but he's not bad is he? Gets stuck in like hell for a young 'un.

I thought we were quite bad. Our defense was woeful so not sure where the praise for that is coming from. They continually marched up field with relative ease and it was only their own errors, or lack of detail when it came to finishing chances that gave us a look in at limping past them. Burgess talked beforehand about suring up our defense and then we go leak a load of points. We're not going to challenge anything of significance this season.

It’s probably going to seem a very long season to you.

Less so when we scrape the play offs and go out first round again though. If people want to celebrate mediocrity then alright. I guess I'm just unwilling to be impressed by us beating an off the boil KR by 2 points. Such is our level now.

I guess people see what they want to see. I see progress, I don’t suppose anyone has seen perfection.

It is correct of course about getting marched downfield & it has been a problem for several seasons. The last ditch defence does seem to respond better than defence in general play which results in us getting the ball back in the wrong parts of the pitch.

Part way through the game on Thursday night I had flashbacks to the game against Hull FC at Magic weekend last year.
In that game we scored 2 early tries but the wheels started to fall off.
The difference is that last year FC scored a number of tries without anybody laying a finger on them and just after they scored our defenders were looking at each other wondering who should have been responsible for making the challenge.
We have been fragile and flakey for a number of years and once we go behind in a game we start to panic and the heads drop.
Thursdays game was different. From memory we went behind twice but we didn't start to panic with things like crazy offloads or give the ball away through rushed incorrect play the balls.
In previous years we would see an inevitable drop off when our starting front row had a rest (Hill / Cooper, previously Hill / Sims) but I don't see the same level of drop off when our starting props are off the pitch.

It is early days and it is baby steps but I have seen enough difference in the first 4 games to be encouraged that we have a different mentality and will be competitive.
Hull KR are no mugs either. If we finish higher than them then we will be looking at a home game in the first round of the play offs.

Just a little point. We didn’t get marched downfield too often on Thursday, there were only around 5 penalties between the 2 sides. The discipline in the last 2 games has been excellent.

Hi Teesside I might be wrong but think or certainly the way I read it was we were failing to stem the oppositions momentum when teams inevitably get on a roll rather than being repeatedly pinged for daft penalties

This is Wire we’re taking about, not Wigan.
If you can’t be happy with an away win at KR, 3 from 4 wins and a narrow away defeat to a 2023 GF team, I think it’s best you pack it in.

To rub salt in it, Holroyd’s daft soft penalty was about 3 tackles in around the halfway line.
It gave KR a huge advantage from there.
I believe if we hadn’t turned over such territory, we’d had forced them to kick and the momentum would have stayed with us.
I’m confident had gone in at least nil-10 up going off the previous 30 mins.
Wire went from in the commentary as dominating the half to suddenly being second best. Memories like a goldfish!
We were far better than the score gave us at half time.
Hull KR didn’t force us to make the error, we gifted them that 12 points.

Both Wilkin and Cooke played for Hull KR and were very partisan as commentators for our game.

Does anyone have a verifiable attendance for our game at KR (not their prediction comp guess ha ha)?

I've looked in all the usual places but seem to recall similar difficulties last season on the Robins' crowd reporting.

Suspect that their crowds are still lower than Hull FC`s.

If they start getting bigger home attendances than their City rivals, then they will start to publish them.

For reasons best known to themselves, Hull KR are not reporting attendances for individual games, but instead giving an average attendance figure at the end of the season. I think that as far as our prediction competition goes, it will probably just have to be declared null and void.

Quite possibly, but the non reporting still strikes me as a bit odd as I think FC used to have/always had the higher average.

If they are lower than anticipated (and I get the impression that KR are a club on the up) then I would have been publishing and asking for more backing a la Delia Smith.

Bet Hull KR wish they could get an attendance on their ground that you have allocated, in Yed`s prediction quiz.

Does anyone know why they always sing bloody Erasure? It's cringe.

Got played randomly after they got to Wembley in 2015(can't remember who they beat) and its become an anthem for them

Think they played a gig there and got adopted.

Which tune? I hadn’t noticed. Don’t most clubs play some sort of 80s throwback tune? Ours used to be Two Tribes but I’m not sure if we still use it. I can only attend the odd game and I’m always in the drink queue at kick off!

https://www.erasureinfo.com/hull-kingst ... r-charity/

https://www.erasureinfo.com/hull-kingst ... r-charity/

Jesus how far back are you going there? I can't recall that and I've been going since 1995.

Are you sure we didn't just use it in the 80s?