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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Players are motivated by; 1) Money and 2) Silverware
Wire can offer the same money as Koukash, they are a top 4 club, have fantastic facilities, and have a much better chance of silverware than Salford over the next few years.
You need to do a bit of joined up thinking.'"
Briers isn't otherwise he would have jumped ship years ago when u were near the bottom
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Briers isn't otherwise he would have jumped ship years ago when u were near the bottom'"
He would have been paid a high salary, as we didn't have a huge number of highly paid stars.
But anyway, ask yourself, what is the motivation for Ratchford ? No higher salary, much less chance of silverware, playing in front of small crowds in a stadium that is in the middle of nowhere, with a club that has few facilities.
It will take at least 8 yrs to rebuild Salford, and that assumes Koukash stays. The club will have to be completely rebuilt from the bottom up. Look how long it took Wire to get to the top, even with Moran's money. And we had the advantage of being able to buy in high quality Oz stars. That is no longer possible ; which is why he want's the salary cap to be raised of course. No, it will be a long hard slog for you.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"
Exactly this Ganson's.
The quicker we get this particular banana skin of a game out of the way with the Wire in the hat for the next round the better
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"He would have been paid a high salary, as we didn't have a huge number of highly paid stars.
But anyway, ask yourself, what is the motivation for Ratchford ? No higher salary, much less chance of silverware, playing in front of small crowds in a stadium that is in the middle of nowhere, with a club that has few facilities.
It will take at least 8 yrs to rebuild Salford, and that assumes Koukash stays. The club will have to be completely rebuilt from the bottom up. Look how long it took Wire to get to the top, even with Moran's money. And we had the advantage of being able to buy in high quality Oz stars. That is no longer possible ; which is why he want's the salary cap to be raised of course. No, it will be a long hard slog for you.'"
Watch and learn, I will be expecting your apology about Stef in my inbox come the end of the season
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Stef is back to Salford at the end of the year, done deal'"
How much is the fee? I'm sure he can't wait to return. I could possibly see Morley going there, hometown club etc, he's done all that can be done in the game. If he can get Salford to pay him silly money for a year or two then good luck to him.
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| Interesting that it is a done deal.
As Ratchford is under contract I presume this done deal has been done by Salford making an approach to Warrington and Warrington accepting and agreeing a fee.
If Salford are talking to Ratchford and agreeing terms without Warrington's consent then that's an illegal approach and Koukash needs showing he can't act like this in Super League.
Stanley30 do you have more evidence on this approach because it would be interesting to bring this to light.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Interesting that it is a done deal.
As Ratchford is under contract I presume this done deal has been done by Salford making an approach to Warrington and Warrington accepting and agreeing a fee.
If Salford are talking to Ratchford and agreeing terms without Warrington's consent then that's an illegal approach and Koukash needs showing he can't act like this in Super League.
Stanley30 do you have more evidence on this approach because it would be interesting to bring this to light.'"
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| Quote ="Stanley30"hahahahahahabanannahahahahaha'"
Presumably Ratcford will be popping over to see Dobson soon, as you also posted that he had been signed by Salford ?
And on the way back, they could call in at Castleford to see their new team mate Clarke, who you also posted was Salford bound.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Interesting that it is a done deal.
As Ratchford is under contract I presume this done deal has been done by Salford making an approach to Warrington and Warrington accepting and agreeing a fee.
If Salford are talking to Ratchford and agreeing terms without Warrington's consent then that's an illegal approach and Koukash needs showing he can't act like this in Super League.
Stanley30 do you have more evidence on this approach because it would be interesting to bring this to light.'"
Is this similar to Cooper, who is still in contract going to Australia?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Is this similar to Cooper, who is still in contract going to Australia?'"
Wire announced the deal, and I believe Cooper said Wire had waived the remainder of the contract.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Wire announced the deal, and I believe Cooper said Wire had waived the remainder of the contract.'"
Did Cooper approach St George Dragons or did St George Dragons approach Cooper?
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| Signing older players hasn't really done you any harm the past few years has it (I'm not taking the mick). If it brings you regular success then why change it?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Did Cooper approach St George Dragons or did St George Dragons approach Cooper?'"
Honestly don't know. I would guess Coops would have talked to the club and asked if he could look for an Oz contract ?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Did Cooper approach St George Dragons or did St George Dragons approach Cooper?'"
or did St George approach Warrington?
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| Quote ="Happy Red"Signing older players hasn't really done you any harm the past few years has it (I'm not taking the mick). If it brings you regular success then why change it?'"
Whereas it's done you a fair bit of harm in the fairly recent past.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Whereas it's done you a fair bit of harm in the fairly recent past.'"
Exactly, when it's done right and the right 30+ year old players are signed it can bring success. However when done wrong, like by ourselves and other lower SL clubs it can do harm. The only recent exception I can think of in our case when and old Aussie has turned out well is Luke Patten.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"Exactly, when it's done right and the right 30+ year old players are signed it can bring success. However when done wrong, like by ourselves and other lower SL clubs it can do harm. The only recent exception I can think of in our case when and old Aussie has turned out well is Luke Patten.'"
I can't help thinking that the presence of Steve Simms had a lot to do with things in that respect. How he managed to keep his head for so long whilst everyone around him was losing theirs is beyond me.
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| err thread drift, much?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"err thread drift, much?'"
Could I just say that Matt Bowen is a very good player, who I believe advised Mike cooper about playing in the NRL, and contrary to what Stanley may say, is not 'nailed on' for a move to Salford next year.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/8699237/harrison-set-for-swinton-bow'"
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Stef is back to Salford at the end of the year, done deal'"
Wonder how Ratchford feels about signing for Salford now. He's going to have a lot of pressure and work on his shoulders to get them to a level where they are competing with us. Still, you make your bed and all that...
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Wonder how Ratchford feels about signing for Salford now. He's going to have a lot of pressure and work on his shoulders to get them to a level where they are competing with us. Still, you make your bed and all that...'"
Serves him right for not making his mind up. First he want's to be a full back, then a half, next minute he has changed his mind and he want's to go back to FB. How can TS manage the team if Ratchford is going to mess him about like that every week ?
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| Could send him on loan to Widnes
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| Rumour at our end is that your signing Ben Jones BIshop for full back and we have signed Tom Briscoe ona five year deal. All rumours and RAchford has signed for SAlford
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