In my opinion Price's comment about a player being a 'mongrel' was made in all innocence. What he said was lost in translation and isn't offensive in Australia. If he'd have known how the word is perceived in this country he wouldn't have said it. McGuire doesn't have that defence. DM me if you want details.

nah, that didn't wash with me then and it doesn't now, if he called him a mongrel, thats one thing, thats a specific type of tenacity, character wiry.

the abbreviated version which he used, comes purely from the(casually used) discriminatory term which has a few different prefixes,

Try googling the thing price said,, maybe include australia in the search and see how long you've got to go down before you can find search that matches the two terms. i couldn't find any.

Can't find one, but yeah, you're right. The word Price used shouldn't have been used in any context. Probably not the best wording in my post.

You could tell before the sending off that McGuire was providing some real leadership to our forwards. My concern is that although we gave some decent props, we don’t have another obvious leader in the forwards. He is the only forward in the leadership group which says a lot. If he cops a significant ban I think it will really challenge us as a playing group. Who’s going to step up? I can’t really see a candidate.

Price said this ". He reminds me a bit of John Bateman with his mong strength."

I honestly think Price has inadvertantly shortened the word mongrel to mong. He's used the word 'mong' as part of a compliment to Ellis Longstaff in describing him as our best player in a performance. If he used the word mong in a negative context, then absolutely he should have been castigated.

People can make innocent verbal mistakes quite easily and where it is evident within the context of a sentence/paragraph that it's obvious that no offence was intended, then I believe people should be given the benefit of the doubt.

This doesn't sound good at all.......only "saving grace" is that it's at the start of the season and not the end I suppose.

Whatever ban he gets, he will deserve, and hopefully learn from.

Race, religion, sexuality it would be direct abuse/discrimination and he’d have the book thrown at him. What I believe he said is wrong but not targeted abuse - very clumsy though. Talk of 8 game bans are silly IMO. McGuire qualifies for PDRL and has been down to help out so a stupid comment in the heat of the moment should be taken as such.

Being at the start of the season might even work against him. It depends what the panel is in 'early season crackdown' mode about this year.

Nope, he didn't, that's not a thing, that abbreviation doesn't exist and it feels grotesque even reading that back again.

One word for McGuire
Brainless

Yes, Steve Price`s comment was complimentary to Ellis Longstaff and certainly no insult was inferred or taken by Longstaff.

I heard that the other Wire players then started calling him Mongstaff to continue the banter.

Banter, eh? One of lads, eh? Ask Azeem Rafiq at Yorkshire CC what he thinks about banter.

Azeem rafiq loves banter where Jewish people are involved.
There, that should get this thread locked

How long was the RFL CEO banned for when he made those comments at the World Cup?

Leading by example and all that.

Why would he use a negative/insulting 'shortened' adjective as a compliment? Mong is a very unpleasant word, but I honestly don't think he meant it that way and clumsily shortened the word mongrel.

Price may have been a poor coach etc etc, but I'd never have him down as someone who would use this word intentionally to insult someone, especially as that word was used as part of a highly complimentary sentence about Longstaff.

I've just had a look on the Internet myself and you're right here that mong strength isn't short for mongrel strength and there doesn't seem to be anything on mongrel strength. There is something on mong strength which isn't the nicest.

I don't think Price has intended any insult, but perhaps mixed up his metaphors whichever they may be. I thought I'd heard the term mongrel strength before , but as you say, there is nothing on the Internet about it.

"“The term is wholly unacceptable and its usage has no place in the sport or society."
Warrington Wolves.

Glad the club took it seriously.

So what did McGuire say then? No reason to hide it.

Apparently the disciplinary panel don’t recess ahead of the NW Crusaders friendly, so any bans will be attributed to Leeds and beyond.

No idea about what was said and in what context, but personally I'm stuggling to remember how many different gender we are up to....


When I was born it was oh so simple - and that's before we get into the alphabetty spaghetti of LBGT+ stuff.



I get so confused with it all.
Now I wonder how many people/groups/posters I've upset?

It's even affected the trains. Take the old Liverpool to York line, it's now called Trans-Pennine.

Probably none. In my experience it's not genuine people of different genders / sexualities / preferences who get upset, it's social media virtue-signallers who want attention for conforming to the latest twitter trends.

Can I get cancelled for bagging virtue-signallers? Is that an officially recognised disability yet?

No, it's normally the right who get offended that the so-called virtue signallers are upset and trying to silence them. If only...

Can anyone enlighten us as to what he allegedly said?

No, although it'll all become clearer in next day or so