Physically looks good so yeah will be interesting to see if he gets a game early on, more competion for places than anything else. But Burgess wouldn't sign him if he didn't think he could add something to the team.

So where did I question your sanity?
As far as I could be bothered I countered your argument by pointing out our 3rd place finish.
If you can show me where I questioned your sanity I will happily apologise.

Here’s some insanity for youz.
Up to you if you believe it or not.
It’s a rumour thread anyways.

Word on Fitzgibbon is crocked for our season and probably end of his career.
Hence the olive branch for Livett. Not signed but discussions as possible replacement. Robinson happy for Livett to go to get cap to spend, his contract is worth about 100k p/a.

I don’t know weather Wire could get cap dispensation from Fitzgibbon. If they can, Livett would drop on.
Hearing Sam has told Livett to fix any recreational vices he may or may not have (I’ll leave that there), and get himself into shape for being a back rower.

Vaughan wanted out or Wire, couldn’t get a club. Wire knew all about it and threatened to cancel his contract if he didn’t return for preseason.
Allegedly he’s already signed to the 2nd tier of the Aus league from 2025 2 year deal.

Burgess bro hates it at Hudds and had Vaughan gone awol, he’d have switched to Wire allowing Luke Robinson the cash to spend in other areas.
But seeing as Vaughan has now returned, Wire won’t have to cap to bring Burgess bro in.

Now that’s a rumour…depressing as hell, but definitely a rumour.

Eww I don't like negative rumours of malcontent.

Fitzgibbon would be a massive loss.

I'm a bit confused by this. If Vaughan wants out, why would Wire cancelling his contract be considered a 'threat'? Wouldn't it be exactly what he wanted?

Don't believe any of that at all.
Fitz is the same old rumour, and if it was true why bring in Livett when Holroyd has already shown his worth and that he can step straight in to 2nd row, so Livett would be a waste of money.
Vaughan is a weird rumour, he's here seems happy and is getting stuck in to pre-season.
If we wanted Burgess surely we'd have offered him more money, as we'd have to match what Huddersfield are paying him now anyway if he came here. Hudds wouldn't pay part of his wage to come here, just seems like fantasy.
I don't believe

Proper rumours that have to be viewed through the prism of Mystic Duck.

Let’s just wait till Abe tells us.

Also Tom Burgess has only been at Huddersfield for about a month. For him to have decided he was going to switch to Wire if Vaughan didn't come back, he would have had to have decided he hated Huddersfield within about an hour of having arrived. Which, if it is the case, points to him being a pretty fickle character who doesn't do his due diligence.

The least believable thing (of which there are many) is Huddersfield paying Livett £100k. I know Davy is getting on a bit but he’s not completely senile AFAIK.

'Am I being serious?' I wouldn't have posted it if I wasn't serious.

Is it not fair to say Burgess overachieved last year and got the best out of the squad? Did you expect to finish 3rd at the start of last season? Not a chance you did.

“are you being serious” is not questioning your sanity. I was questioning whether you were on a wind up. There is a huge difference.
I wasn’t expecting a 3rd place finish based on the season before under Powell, on the other hand I wasn’t expecting such a disastrous season under Powell given what I thought was a decent squad. I think labelling the majority of the squad as 6/10 was extremely harsh, compounded by your very damning view of Dufty which I personally think is unsustainable. But. that is my opinion.

Fitzgibbon was working hard back in training today, according to a report in the Warrington Guardian. Good of him to make the effort, given that he has apparently packed in!!

There is a video today from Warrington Wolves with Fitzgibbon lifting weights, surely if he was done he wouldn't be lifting any weights ???

Some people will never learn.

It’s got a ring to it.

I’m hoping it catches on!

Nice listen on the wire in Bondi podcast witb Musgrove, seems a really nice guy.
Nice to here that he loves Warrington, loves the club and fans, his family are settled and happy, and his heart is with us and he wants to stay here.
Refreshing change rather than the usual "i'm not sure, we'll see what happens" response you hear alot.
I'm looking forward to next year, a fully fit Fitz back in the team is a big bonus, get big Dan Russell firing and up to speed could be a good addition on the right. Despite what we saw for PNG i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he has 2-3 games under his belt for us.
I'm optimistic about our forward pack, we're not massive but we're not small pushovers either, Thomas and Okoro could still impress on top of who we already have, and Leon Hayes And Leyland fighting for a spot in the halves i think is good for us.

Agree with virtually all of this, but I think allowing someone only 2-3 games before judging is a bit tight. Matt King was an Aus international and I think if we judged him on his 1st seaso, let alone 3 games we would have binned him off.
Of course I may be a bit soft on these things…

Agree with virtually all of this, but I think allowing someone only 2-3 games before judging is a bit tight. Matt King was an Aus international and I think if we judged him on his 1st seaso, let alone 3 games we would have binned him off.
Of course I may be a bit soft on these things…

“(decided within) about an hour of having arrived” where have said that?

However, it’s said we make an opinion on someone or something within the first 6 seconds.
So perhaps this one hour you suggested makes GB more fickle than you imagined, and is far too long to take your post serious!?

Well Burgess joined Huddersfield a month ago, and Vaughan was pictured in training with us two weeks ago (at which point we can assume any doubt about whether he was coming back was put to bed).

So somewhere in the space of the 2-2.5 weeks before that Burgess will have needed to have decided he hated Huddersfield and start putting feelers out about other clubs, and for that rumour to spread.

After a Sydney to Huddersfield bump, I’d be surprised if the rumour he hates it wasn’t true.

To be fair to Huddersfield you could say that about any Superleague club location.