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| Quote ="Asgardian13":2561m33oOnce legal contracts are involved it can take an age. Neither party is free to announce anything until both have signed. The issue is that fans hear unconfirmed rumours way in advance of this final stage and asssume a deal has been done. The time from actual signing to announcement is rarely more than seven days.'" Clark
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Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"That's a point actually, has anyone who has left widnes as part of their relegation (not out of contract) been announced as signing for anyone else yet?
I cant recall seeing any.'"
Weller Hauraki to Hull KR
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... st-2061084
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Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"That's a point actually, has anyone who has left widnes as part of their relegation (not out of contract) been announced as signing for anyone else yet?
I cant recall seeing any.'"
Weller Hauraki to Hull KR
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... st-2061084
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he was already going, that was agreed while he was still at salford earlier in the year.
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he was already going, that was agreed while he was still at salford earlier in the year.
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| A number 7, and a decent one is a must!! I think Price will know that now (see my comment on Kev Brown thread)!! Also, IMO, there is no point in having a winger like Charnley without a top class centre to go with him.....Id certainly be thinking about that (Currie to Centre if he fully recovers?). I dont think the pack is an issue. The amount of times weve been on top this year and not come away with the spoils has been down to inadequate link play between the forwards and the backs through the half backs, running out of ideas 20m out from the oppo's line.....which takes us back to a number 7 being priority for me.........
Interesting off season this one....weve let go more than weve recruited....i think there could be a couple of twists and turns before K.O 2019.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Once legal contracts are involved it can take an age. Neither party is free to announce anything until both have signed. The issue is that fans hear unconfirmed rumours way in advance of this final stage and asssume a deal has been done. The time from actual signing to announcement is rarely more than seven days.'"
I fully agree. There has been many a 'done deal' that has come unstuck at the 11th hour. Also worth remembering that even simple things such as a player going off on holiday or on tour as soon as the season is finished can delay the process. I have a faint recollection that this was the case with the Kev Brown deal 2 years ago.
It is also customary for the club from which the player is leaving to be given the opportunity to announce first.
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| The clubs announce these things when it is right for them. So widnes many not want to appear like there is a fire sale going on whilst people are still buying season tickets. We might not want an announcement yet as fans are still getting last saturdays dissapointment out of their heads. There is usually deals that are announced to keep season ticket sales moving.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"well i would say the obvious answer is, he hasn't actually signed yet, despite what every tom duckie and harry on here say.'"
No mate. He has 100% signed and the deal is done.
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| Only one i can think of that's definate is Gil Dudson to Salford, and that's only just been announced.
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| So, squad becoming a little clearer now:
Full Back: Ratch, Johnson, Mamo (Utility Back)
Wing: Lineham, Charnley
Centre: Goodwin, King, Atkins
Halfs: Austin, Brown, Patton, Smith?
Prop: Hill, Cooper, Philbin, Tasi, Sita, Westwood, Doro
Hooker: Clark, Walker
2nd Row: Currie, Hughes, BMM, Livett, Davis, Johnson, Robson
Loose: Clark
Out: Brown, Austin, Crosby, Thompson, King, Pomeroy, Prell
In: Mamo, Austin, Tasi, Clark, Davis, Walker, Doro (Youth), Robson (Youth)
Looking purely at numbers I think we still lack maybe a young winger that could come in and support the squad when needed, but its a fairly well balanced squad I think now (especially as Currie or Livett can jump in to the centres with Goodwin to wing). Last year I had concerns about going in to the season without a recognised second option at hooker, but we have that covered now.
Quality wise I'm not sure Brown is the answer at 7, and not a great partner for Austin, but we are where we are on that score - we should be moving heaven and earth to get a better 7 in for 2020. Prop is another area that I feel we are maybe one person down in terms of quality, we have enough numbers there I think, but would swap the cap space Sita & Tasi are taking up for a David Fifita every day of the week.
Hoping we have some space left on the cap for a mid season signing if an injury crisis hits, but compared to the 2018 squad, I'm fairly happy.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"So, squad becoming a little clearer now:
Full Back: Ratch, Johnson, Mamo (Utility Back)
Wing: Lineham, Charnley
Centre: Goodwin, King, Atkins
Halfs: Austin, Brown, Patton, Smith?
Prop: Hill, Cooper, Philbin, Tasi, Sita, Westwood, Doro
Hooker: Clark, Walker
2nd Row: Currie, Hughes, BMM, Livett, Davis, Johnson, Robson
Loose: Clark
Out: Brown, Austin, Crosby, Thompson, King, Pomeroy, Prell
In: Mamo, Austin, Tasi, Clark, Davis, Walker, Doro (Youth), Robson (Youth)
Looking purely at numbers I think we still lack maybe a young winger that could come in and support the squad when needed, but its a fairly well balanced squad I think now (especially as Currie or Livett can jump in to the centres with Goodwin to wing). Last year I had concerns about going in to the season without a recognised second option at hooker, but we have that covered now.
Quality wise I'm not sure Brown is the answer at 7, and not a great partner for Austin, but we are where we are on that score - we should be moving heaven and earth to get a better 7 in for 2020. Prop is another area that I feel we are maybe one person down in terms of quality, we have enough numbers there I think, but would swap the cap space Sita & Tasi are taking up for a David Fifita every day of the week.
Hoping we have some space left on the cap for a mid season signing if an injury crisis hits, but compared to the 2018 squad, I'm fairly happy.'"
It's much stronger than last year.
Is Moran still with us? Johnson has played wing as well as FB.
(You've also seem to have got rid of Austin a bit quick ... bit harsh I think!!)
We have done very well to stay within the salary cap with that squad.
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| We've signed a player with potential to improve and also increase competition for places.. no bad thing.
Put simply Mitch Brown > Jake Mamo.... is a step upwards
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"It's much stronger than last year.
Is Moran still with us? Johnson has played wing as well as FB.
(You've also seem to have got rid of Austin a bit quick ... bit harsh I think!!)'"
If Moran is still with us is he likely to play a game? Struggled to find a place in the squad for a while now, just feel if he was going to make it we would have seen something by now - happy to be proven wrong though.
Not sure where I've suggested we get rid of Austin?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"So, squad becoming a little clearer now:
Full Back: Ratch, Johnson, Mamo (Utility Back)
Wing: Lineham, Charnley
Centre: Goodwin, King, Atkins
Halfs: Austin, Brown, Patton, Smith?
Prop: Hill, Cooper, Philbin, Tasi, Sita, Westwood, Doro
Hooker: Clark, Walker
2nd Row: Currie, Hughes, BMM, Livett, Davis, Johnson, Robson
Loose: Clark
Out: Brown, Austin, Crosby, Thompson, King, Pomeroy, Prell
In: Mamo, Austin, Tasi, Clark, Davis, Walker, Doro (Youth), Robson (Youth)
Looking purely at numbers I think we still lack maybe a young winger that could come in and support the squad when needed, but its a fairly well balanced squad I think now (especially as Currie or Livett can jump in to the centres with Goodwin to wing). Last year I had concerns about going in to the season without a recognised second option at hooker, but we have that covered now.
Quality wise I'm not sure Brown is the answer at 7, and not a great partner for Austin, but we are where we are on that score - we should be moving heaven and earth to get a better 7 in for 2020. Prop is another area that I feel we are maybe one person down in terms of quality, we have enough numbers there I think, but would swap the cap space Sita & Tasi are taking up for a David Fifita every day of the week.
Hoping we have some space left on the cap for a mid season signing if an injury crisis hits, but compared to the 2018 squad, I'm fairly happy.'"
I think he refers to that in bold in the quote?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Not sure where I've suggested we get rid of Austin?'"
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Out: Brown, [uAustin[/u, Crosby, Thompson, King, Pomeroy, Prell
In: Mamo, Austin, Tasi, Clark, Davis, Walker, Doro (Youth), Robson (Youth)'"
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| Austin a big fan of the Hokey Cokey.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"Austin a big fan of the Hokey Cokey.'"
As is most of our current team. As long as they perform on the pitch who cares.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"I think he refers to that in bold in the quote?'"
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| Quote ="moving on..."As is most of our current team. As long as they perform on the pitch who cares.'"
I think that it was a reference to the dance rather than ewt else ha ha
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I think that it was a reference to the dance rather than ewt else ha ha'"
Neat sidestep of potential danger there UR!
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Neat sidestep of potential danger there UR!'"
Well.....that's what it's all about?
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