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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Rumours of a falling out between Burgess and Vaughan. Madame Boyd has tweeted it.'"
Spotted something was wrong in his 1st game back and without facts ofc it was strange he did not start against HKR.
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| Some commented on him shaking his head at Burgess when he was subbed v Saints - I didn't see it. He likely got benched for that show of petulance and it's gone from there. Possible not happy with Musgrove being dropped either. Only one winner though and that's, rightfully, Burgess.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Some commented on him shaking his head at Burgess when he was subbed v Saints - I didn't see it. He likely got benched for that show of petulance and it's gone from there. Possible not happy with Musgrove being dropped either. Only one winner though and that's, rightfully, Burgess.'"
We were sat behind the dugout for the Saints match and he was visibly disappointed and was shaking his head when he got took off in the second half.
Still find his rather brief cameo against Hull KR rather odd though regardless of his head shaking and disappointment.
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| Wasn’t the reason SB left Souths because he disagreed with the head coach giving preferential treatment to a star player? This would certainly resonate with what’s happened with Vaughan and Musgrove.
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| Quote ="karetaker"https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/articles/c5y9k09knplo'"
That is not a rumour! D- must do better!
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| Wasn't Vaughan still banned for the Saints game.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Wasn't Vaughan still banned for the Saints game.'"
No, first game back. Musgrove and Yates started with Vaughan, Harrison and Philbin on the bench.
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| Is Daniel Okoro still with us. I know he spent a bit of time back at Bradford on loan but just wondering if he will be back in the squad next year.
Similar with Lucas Green. From memory he was at widnes on loan
Looking forward to seeing a bit more of Luke Thomas next year. Hopefully by the start of next year he will be fully recovered.
We have Wood and Whitehead. If we can find
2 or 3 diamonds in that group of 5 it would be fantastic.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"That is not a rumour! D- must do better!'"
But it is Recruitment so B+
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"But it is Recruitment so B+'"
recruitment rumour, no finished articles in here
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Player ratings for Wire players at Wembley were not great but can't remember Bullock being worse than others. "Stunk the place out" seems harsh. Not seen since Yates arrived & relatively few injuries in the forwards. Difficult to imagine him returning to Wire after his time with Salford but he's got a contract.'"
2 knock ons in crucial areas of the field, one leading to a try. Penalty for a high shot. He was hooked off after that iirc. We discussed it at length on here.
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| I was looking at a couple of independent reviews of players performances and his were no worse than others. I think I can remember a few mistakes. If he "stunk the place out" he was not alone. Still think the term "stunk the place out" is harsh ... but it is a forum & we all have different views & standards.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Wasn’t the reason SB left Souths because he disagreed with the head coach giving preferential treatment to a star player? This would certainly resonate with what’s happened with Vaughan and Musgrove.
2 further points on this
a) I’m stretching the definition of “star player” to include Musgrove
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b) I have no idea what has happened just adding 2+2 in a WWWE wrestler mathematical manner and comining up with an answer (which is of course Tuesday).'"
Yes, but tomorrow is Wednesday.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Wasn’t the reason SB left Souths because he disagreed with the head coach giving preferential treatment to a star player? This would certainly resonate with what’s happened with Vaughan and Musgrove.
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a) I’m stretching the definition of “star player” to include Musgrove
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b) I have no idea what has happened just adding 2+2 in a WWWE wrestler mathematical manner and comining up with an answer (which is of course Tuesday).'"
Yes, but tomorrow is Wednesday.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I was looking at a couple of independent reviews of players performances and his were no worse than others. I think I can remember a few mistakes. If he "stunk the place out" he was not alone. Still think the term "stunk the place out" is harsh ... but it is a forum & we all have different views & standards.'"
Ha ha. Yes my standards are low but then I am a "fan". If the term offends you, or his parents, or any other delicate souls, feel free to replace with "sub par performance".
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"But it is Recruitment so B+'"
I should point out there is no comma between “recruitment” and “rumours”
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| Madame Boyd is about as believable as Santa Claus.. and that podcast is like a group of sixth form media studies students doing an A-level project.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"Madame Boyd is about as believable as Santa Claus.. and that podcast is like a group of sixth form media studies students doing an A-level project.'"
I believe it is true. He kicked off after not starting the Saints game hence why he never started against HKR. He’s in Aus now on holiday.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I believe it is true. He kicked off after not starting the Saints game hence why he never started against HKR. He’s in Aus now on holiday.'"
Perfectly sensible starting him on the bench given he’d had 3 weeks off, if it’s true, he needs to reign it in, regardless of whether he’s our best prop (Yates has probably held that mantle since he got here anyway imo).
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| From what I hear it’s going to take a lot to bury that hatchet. Duckie might get his wish in seeing the back of Vaughan.
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| No one player is bigger than the club. If his Ego makes him believe he is an automatic starter and then throws his toys out the pram when it does not go his way then I wish him well for his future.
We have been here done that with players trying to run the club look how that turned out, we only need players that get behind the club and what the club is trying to achieve. They may not always get it right but it’s about the team and not an individual.
All this assumes the stories are true of course and if so I for one will be disappointed if he goes but at the cost of disharmony no thanks.
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| It's Autumn, and were entering bad apple season.
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| I really hope this isn't true. When he is on the pitch he is arguably our best prop forward.
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