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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, I’m saying all opinions aren’t equal, Whatever value you want to give mine, yours or anyone else’s is really up to you, and frankly not particularly of interest to me. What I was drawing attention to was a repeated mistake vastpants makes, which is to confuse the right to express an opinion being universally the same and the validity of said opinion being the same, which is clearly nonsense'"
He never said all opinions are equal though, just your two opinions. The validity of the two said opinions is more or less the same (unless you are saying your opinion is more valid than his?)
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"He never said all opinions are equal though, just your two opinions. The validity of the two said opinions is more or less the same (unless you are saying your opinion is more valid than his?)'"
And as I said it was a common mistake vastpants makes, it is odd to give two opposing opinions the same validity, in this example it is absurd as only one could possibly be correct.
Do I give my opinion more validity than his? Certainly, otherwise it wouldn’t be my opinion would it, you wouldn’t hold an opinion you knew or thought to be incorrect would you? It is my opinion that his opinion is idiotic (frankly I would be mildly surprised if that is actually his opinion) because I believe him to be an idiot. I believe my opinion to be correct, this is why I hold it, if I didn’t believe it to be correct it wouldn’t be my opinion
Does that mean you have to believe my opinion has more validity than anyone else’s? No, you can value whichever opinion you want at whatever value you wish, that is your right in a free society
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| opinions are like f@rts, we all express them occasionally.......we don't mind our own..but we generally find other people's distasteful
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And as I said it was a common mistake vastpants makes, it is odd to give two opposing opinions the same validity, in this example it is absurd as only one could possibly be correct.
Do I give my opinion more validity than his? Certainly, otherwise it wouldn’t be my opinion would it, you wouldn’t hold an opinion you knew or thought to be incorrect would you? It is my opinion that his opinion is idiotic (frankly I would be mildly surprised if that is actually his opinion) because I believe him to be an idiot. I believe my opinion to be correct, this is why I hold it, if I didn’t believe it to be correct it wouldn’t be my opinion
Does that mean you have to believe my opinion has more validity than anyone else’s? No, you can value whichever opinion you want at whatever value you wish, that is your right in a free society'"
I make no mistakes where you're concerned - I know exactly what you are.
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| Quote ="vastman"I make no mistakes where you're concerned - I know exactly what you are.'"
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| Any other Fc or Rovers fans cringing at this thread?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Serious question.
Had Rovers lost the last derby at Craven Park on the final day of the season I believe they would have dropped to a 10th place finish (3rd bottom). I assume this would not then be classed as a successful season?
Did one result make that much difference in the end?'"
Where a team finishes is determined by 27 fixtures and not just the final one.
Although giving us 2 valuable league points it meant no more and no less than the 2 other occasions that we beat you last season.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Where a team finishes is determined by 27 fixtures and not just the final one.
Although giving us 2 valuable league points it meant no more and no less than the 2 other occasions that we beat you last season.'"
So are you saying Rovers over or under achieved?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"So are you saying Rovers over or under achieved?
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That wasnt the question you asked......
I think we finished in a fair position last season. Over the course of the season the sides who finished above us were better than us and the teams who finished below us were not as good.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"That wasnt the question you asked......
I think we finished in a fair position last season. Over the course of the season the sides who finished above us were better than us and the teams who finished below us were not as good.'"
My initial post was in reply to an over/under achieving post if you read back.
My point is that one win can make a big difference between a successful league campaign and not, upto 4 places in the league for example.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Any other Fc or Rovers fans cringing at this thread?'"
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| Rovers did beat Quins last season Wellsy
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Rovers did beat Quins last season Wellsy'"
My mistake. Must have looked at 2007 by accident for that one.
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| Quote ="Mars"Are you on crack? Swain has been replaced, Carvell has spent most of the last two seasons injured. Domic and Briscoe were surplus to requirements.
Poor attempt. It [iis[/i possible to fluke a CC final but it [iisn't[/i possible to fluke three major finals in four seasons (winning one). This is something you won't have to worry about in your life time.
I would say elevating Hull KR to mediocrity in SL is a bigger achievement than most of these players could have previously claimed. Some I will give you, but you are taking the p*ss with others.
Hull = probable top 6 / possible top 4 contenders.
Hull KR = probable bottom 6 / possible bottom 4 cannon fodder
I thought I was the deluded one...
And as for Rovers improving into the play-offs with the stellar addition of Fozzard and, er, .... , best of luck! Back in the real world you have next to no chance.'"
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| You that desperate for attention that you've got to bring up a two-month old thread to have a pop at one poster?!
General Sad sounds more appropriate.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"You that desperate for attention that you've got to bring up a two-month old thread to have a pop at one poster?!
General Sad sounds more appropriate.'"
What's the matter mate? you seem upset!
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| Quote ="General Zod."What's the matter mate? you seem upset!
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| Quote ="General Zod."What's the matter mate? you seem upset!
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Seriously, is this the best you can do?
Hull FC lose 6 on the bounce, and your best trolling effort is to bring up a 2 month old thread about an overseas signing?
C'mon. At least try and be original, otherwise you just come across as a bitter and obsessed troll with no life
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Seriously, is this the best you can do?
Hull FC lose 6 on the bounce, and your best trolling effort is to bring up a 2 month old thread about an overseas signing?
C'mon. At least try and be original, otherwise you just come across as a bitter and obsessed troll with no life
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Just wondered if Mars was about but it appears he's still on living on Mars
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| Quote ="Mars"The comment was intended to highlight the fact that Hull KR probably overachieved last season. It wasn't meant to be taken literally. But I am happy to agree that it may have been [islightly[/i off the mark if it will keep you from hyperventilating any further.
In reality there are probably 9 from 25 or so that have played at least a reasonable part in teams that have had a better season than Hull KR did last. That does not, however, detract from the point that Hull will likely improve past Hull KR this season other things being equal.
Happy?'"
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| Has there ever been a RL player with a more unintentionally ironic name?
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Has there ever been a RL player with a more unintentionally ironic name?'"
Not since Oz Tralia
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Not since Oz Tralia'"
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