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| Quote: bren2k " The conclusion to draw here is that Catalans Dragons care more about their ability to win a game, than they do about the values, feelings and inclusiveness of the RFL, SLE and the sponsors, supporters and fans of the game of RL. Some people are ok with that - perhaps because they've never been oppressed due to their sexuality - but most aren't - which is encouraging.'"
Or maybe they have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not sure who is being excluded or oppressed as a result of this signing.
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| Quote: wire-flyer "Or maybe they have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not sure who is being excluded or oppressed as a result of this signing.'"
It's so simple.
You cant welcome people who are from minority groups and then welcome people who are openly hostile towards those groups.
Where do you go if Falou repeats his views on the pitch.
Catalan would have employed him, already well aware of his views, SL have allowed Catalan to employ him (knowing his views).
They could be sued to death.
The bottom line is that Catalan Dragons have employed him in full knowledge of his religious but bigoted, outdated views.
Maybe we could get Brenard Manning or Chubby Brown to come in as match day commentator just to really get things moving
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| Quote: wire-flyer "Or maybe they have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not sure who is being excluded or oppressed as a result of this signing.'"
And maybe they feel falou deserves a 2nd chance and don't feel it's right to banish him from rugby league forever.
Elstone also confirmed some clubs didn't feel it was right to stop Catalan signing falou.
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| Quote: Steven Toast "Of course, when you cut through all the guff and bluster around this, the idiocy and nonsense of what Folau posted , halfway down , in response to a direct question , on a many commented Instagram post , that could be read by 0.002% of the population(and that he publicised himself no further and that you would have to want to search or look for to be aware of , and of course make a special effort to be offended by), and the rush of virtue signalling on the other side, then the middle ground of the law and reasonable people is left.'"
Its a post on his main page. You cant go on there without seeing it.
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| It’s seems freedom of speech is only reserved for certain people. Chris Chester has been banned from talking about it. Nice.
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| Have all the Super League club owners,and Elstone,got together to prevent the game between Toronto and Catalans,given the persecution and hostility between Muslim and Christian,both historically and currently around the world - after all the favourite SBW will be against the devil himself,Israel Folau.
This could have far reaching consequences...
I take it all those secular critics of Folau are aware of this religious conundrum?
Perhaps not.
It may mean the end of the world as we know it.It may mean the end faster than Brexit.
I stand back while Hudgell and the brains department sort it...
I hope all sponsors are fully vetted should the game go ahead and feature both religious players.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "It's so simple.
You cant welcome people who are from minority groups and then welcome people who are openly hostile towards those groups.
Where do you go if Falou repeats his views on the pitch.
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Simple? Only if you pre-judge as you appear to have been doing.
When was he "openly hostile" to minority groups? Unless you are aware of something I am not. He quoted a passage from scripture and then said redemption was on offer. Surely, an act of kindness based on his beliefs / understanding?
By the way, I have not seen many "drunks" claiming to be outraged by his comments. Will be Wigan having a "Sots pride" fixture if they draw Catalans in the Cup?
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| Quote: Dally "Simple? Only if you pre-judge as you appear to have been doing.
When was he "openly hostile" to minority groups? Unless you are aware of something I am not. He quoted a passage from scripture and then said redemption was on offer. Surely, an act of kindness based on his beliefs / understanding?
By the way, I have not seen many "drunks" claiming to be outraged by his comments. Will be Wigan having a "Sots pride" fixture if they draw Catalans in the Cup?'"
How do they take up this offer of kindness - do tell us? Do they need to stop being homosexuals? Or do they just need to stop doing 'homosexual things'? How kind and understanding of him.
Also, as I'm sure you know, it wasn't just one quote.
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| Quote: notorious "How do they take up this offer of kindness - do tell us? Do they need to stop being homosexuals? Or do they just need to stop doing 'homosexual things'? How kind and understanding of him.
Also, as I'm sure you know, it wasn't just one quote.'"
Stop drinking.
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| Quote: Dally "Simple? Only if you pre-judge as you appear to have been doing.
When was he "openly hostile" to minority groups? Unless you are aware of something I am not. He quoted a passage from scripture and then said redemption was on offer. Surely, an act of kindness based on his beliefs / understanding?
By the way, I have not seen many "drunks" claiming to be outraged by his comments. Will be Wigan having a "Sots pride" fixture if they draw Catalans in the Cup?'"
"Stop being yourself and you wont go to hell" is not an act of kindness.
And the drunks part was discussed about 10 pages back. may as well ask about straight pride while you are here
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "
Maybe we could get Brenard Manning ….
Do you mean the late Bernard Manning?
I seem to vaguely recall that he led the community singing at a Challenge Cup final in the 1970s? Can anybody confirm or otherwise?
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| Quote: notorious "How do they take up this offer of kindness - do tell us? Do they need to stop being homosexuals? Or do they just need to stop doing 'homosexual things'? How kind and understanding of him.'"
Ah yes - the casuistry of the religious twonk, who wants to varnish the hatred towards homosexuals from their scriptures in some way; "Love the sinner, hate the sin."
It is, as with many other attempts to make a medieval storybook still relevant, disingenuous to say the least; persecute someone for their nature, but offer them redemption if they deny it? No thanks.
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| Quote: bren2k "Ah yes - the casuistry of the religious twonk, who wants to varnish the hatred towards homosexuals from their scriptures in some way; "Love the sinner, hate the sin."
It is, as with many other attempts to make a medieval storybook still relevant, disingenuous to say the least; persecute someone for their nature, but offer them redemption if they deny it? No thanks.'"
Well said.
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| Quote: Dally "Simple? Only if you pre-judge as you appear to have been doing.
When was he "openly hostile" to minority groups? Unless you are aware of something I am not. He quoted a passage from scripture and then said redemption was on offer. Surely, an act of kindness based on his beliefs / understanding?
By the way, I have not seen many "drunks" claiming to be outraged by his comments. Will be Wigan having a "Sots pride" fixture if they draw Catalans in the Cup?'"
You are of course referring to the second post on Instagram, with the long list of sinners and not the original post, which was subsequently deleted ??
As I have said multiple times, why on earth did Catalan feel so compelled to sign him.
His PUBLICISED views are just compatible with the stated goals of Rugby League and it really doesn't matter if his religion encourages this particular way of thinking (brainwashing).
Again, every other "hit" on his second post was a life choice, being a homosexual isn't and that is why there is such outrage, from an already persecuted group of people who, just want to get on with their lives, without being targeted.
Maybe you agree with him and think it's all ok, I dont.
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