Or maybe they have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not sure who is being excluded or oppressed as a result of this signing.

It's so simple.

You cant welcome people who are from minority groups and then welcome people who are openly hostile towards those groups.
Where do you go if Falou repeats his views on the pitch.

Catalan would have employed him, already well aware of his views, SL have allowed Catalan to employ him (knowing his views).
They could be sued to death.

The bottom line is that Catalan Dragons have employed him in full knowledge of his religious but bigoted, outdated views.

Maybe we could get Brenard Manning or Chubby Brown to come in as match day commentator just to really get things moving

And maybe they feel falou deserves a 2nd chance and don't feel it's right to banish him from rugby league forever.

Elstone also confirmed some clubs didn't feel it was right to stop Catalan signing falou.

Its a post on his main page. You cant go on there without seeing it.

It’s seems freedom of speech is only reserved for certain people. Chris Chester has been banned from talking about it. Nice.

Have all the Super League club owners,and Elstone,got together to prevent the game between Toronto and Catalans,given the persecution and hostility between Muslim and Christian,both historically and currently around the world - after all the favourite SBW will be against the devil himself,Israel Folau.

This could have far reaching consequences...

I take it all those secular critics of Folau are aware of this religious conundrum?

Perhaps not.

It may mean the end of the world as we know it.It may mean the end faster than Brexit.

I stand back while Hudgell and the brains department sort it...

I hope all sponsors are fully vetted should the game go ahead and feature both religious players.

Simple? Only if you pre-judge as you appear to have been doing.

When was he "openly hostile" to minority groups? Unless you are aware of something I am not. He quoted a passage from scripture and then said redemption was on offer. Surely, an act of kindness based on his beliefs / understanding?

By the way, I have not seen many "drunks" claiming to be outraged by his comments. Will be Wigan having a "Sots pride" fixture if they draw Catalans in the Cup?

How do they take up this offer of kindness - do tell us? Do they need to stop being homosexuals? Or do they just need to stop doing 'homosexual things'? How kind and understanding of him.

Also, as I'm sure you know, it wasn't just one quote.

Stop drinking.

"Stop being yourself and you wont go to hell" is not an act of kindness.

And the drunks part was discussed about 10 pages back. may as well ask about straight pride while you are here

Do you mean the late Bernard Manning?

I seem to vaguely recall that he led the community singing at a Challenge Cup final in the 1970s? Can anybody confirm or otherwise?

Ah yes - the casuistry of the religious twonk, who wants to varnish the hatred towards homosexuals from their scriptures in some way; "Love the sinner, hate the sin."

It is, as with many other attempts to make a medieval storybook still relevant, disingenuous to say the least; persecute someone for their nature, but offer them redemption if they deny it? No thanks.

Well said.

You are of course referring to the second post on Instagram, with the long list of sinners and not the original post, which was subsequently deleted ??
As I have said multiple times, why on earth did Catalan feel so compelled to sign him.
His PUBLICISED views are just compatible with the stated goals of Rugby League and it really doesn't matter if his religion encourages this particular way of thinking (brainwashing).
Again, every other "hit" on his second post was a life choice, being a homosexual isn't and that is why there is such outrage, from an already persecuted group of people who, just want to get on with their lives, without being targeted.
Maybe you agree with him and think it's all ok, I dont.

nope, can't see an image?

I do have some sympathy for that view but that is where a club can choose whether to recruit somebody or not based on their own reasoning. My main point in all of this is that I don't believe it is good for the RFL/SL (a governing body) to legislate against somebody because they posted something online that offended a portion of the population. The principle is that offence, by definition, is subjective - what one person finds offensive, another might not. So it would require the RFL/SL to decide themselves that something is offensive, which would be their own opinion, not the opinion of everyone and certainly not a fact, and that would be a weak foundation for any ruling.

I have said it before and no doubt will say it again.

Many people in rugby ( both codes) are religious people and are respected for that. Many, kneel for prayer publicly and thank God after they play.

NO ONE is denying Folau his right to freedom of religion!

People are questioning the way he expresses it!

It could have talked about how much strength he got from his religion, how it made him stronger and a better person. He could have talked about the love he felt and others could too, in Jesus!

-Nope it is all about gays ( and adulterers ..) going to hell!

He was warned, did it again, sacked and then preached it, mocked in Australia and ends up in SL!

At this stage it appears Catalan Dragons are just taking the p*** and the RFL cannpt do anything to stop it!

Yes he did I was their and spoke to him

I agree that their latest stance may actually be impossible to invoke.
Without absolute guidelines, who will decide what media output is "offensive"

As for offence being subjective, yes, of course it is.
However, if you offend anyone, you are by definition "causing offence", you dont have to offend everyone to be in the wrong.
Mind you, his "list" covered plenty of bases.

Yes, I'm definately going to Hell on 3 counts (drinker, fornicator and atheist), and I'm a bit iffy on 2 or 3 other counts as well.
Strangely, I'm not that worried about it. As they say, threatening an atheist with God's wrath carries about the same weight as threatening him with Darth Vader.

I totally agree.
However, that doesn't really reduce the insult from his perspective.
He is saying that if you dont repent (or go straight) you will go to Hell - very strong words for a Christian to dole out, maybe the ultimate threat.

I would suggest because they are frightened to death of being relegated, as are Toronto Wolfpack. I only suggest that because as guests they can still be booted out when the 2022 deal comes in.

Argyle signs SBW and Gausch thinks that's a great way to make English clubs happy - on the basis that even though Catalans and TWP don't bring fans here, these signings would attract more English fans.

But I didn't really detect that hundreds of fans who came to Headingley only bought tickets to see S.B.Who?

However if Falau is to land in Cas, Wakey, Fartown or Headingley I'll certainly be there like a shot!! Who doesn't like a good row.....

Wouldn't you agree if Falau went to Cas he might be a bit of a hero, after all the club were fined for their fans homophobic chanting when the ex Welsh rugby union player Thomas had the misfortune of playing there.

Thank you for confirming. Saves me trawling through old programmes. Can you recall which final(s)?

So, just shows that RL has a long-history of allowing outspoken non-PC individuals to be part of its main events as well as inclusion. Which rather supports my view that this fuss about Israel Folau is utter nonsense.