So FA.......who's to blame today?

I would think Putin, almost certainly.

lol

Oh FA. I just noticed your avatar.
Sad times

I have to apologise for getting sucked into that.

Reading my posts i have not said anything particularly negative about Bradford other than the management of it nor would I.
Bradford were the first team i supported. As a young Kid i used to get the 364 to Badford where i met my Uncle who used to take me to Northern matches. My first hero was Keith Mumby. Then when i started comprehensive school i started watching Fartown. I would never disrespect Bradford out of respect for my uncle.

I have responded to some of the more ridiculous / paranoid posts from FA and one other. And enjoyed taking the P out of him due to his lack of insight. His own abuse of people and then resorting to reporting posts with the report button is laughable.

He and one other poster have done more to undermine any lingering support or sympathy that was left on this forum for the Bulls yet he does not see it.

Cue FA reading all my posts and misquoting something with lots of quote elements to make himself look clever.

However , i should stop it now. So good luck to Bradford and their fans although i hope FA finds a penny and loses a pound.

Just a few weeks ago FA was on here posting ''I realise it may annoy you, but things are rather looking up for the bulls now







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.......Days later, they are on the verge of liquidation with players jumping ship left right and centre.

I think that shows us the extent of his ''knowledge''.

FA is a menace to the many good Bulls fans out there.

This is what you said.



This is what you said.

As for singling you out, I'm not. Quite frankly, I want to go easy on you because people don't understand the heartache associated with supporting a club going down the toilet but I do. We were rescued, and I sincerely hope Bradford find as much luck as mine did when they needed it the most.

But I've appealed for calm, from everyone, because it's getting ugly, and people from both sides are going to say things they will live to regret.

I don't really feel sorry for the bulls fans after all they've seen there team win challenge cup finals grand finals wcc finals so they might have a couple of years of hardship boo hoo

A couple of years of hardship? Have you not been paying attention? Right now it is entirely possible that the club they support will cease to exist, not just get relegated for a season or two.

Oh - and regards the personal stuff...

Choosing a situation like this to try and settle some 'personal scores' on a freaking internet forum is low.

That is all.

No it won't stop been so dramatic worse case scenario it will fold and reform debt free in the bottom division

LOL, good point.Trouble is i'll try anything after a bottle of Hardys

They'll always be around.......one way or another. If the club completly liquidates they'll just reform in the championship and work back up. Some form of bradford rugby league entity will always be around.

I do have sympathy for the older fans, the ones who watched Bradford Northern with 4/5000 others, indeed in my time i spent a year living in Bradford and would often find myself up at Odsal on my own for a midweek fixture , it was horrible, bleak, cold etc but there were some decent people up there and was always good to chat as my team back then were in the lower divisions, for those people who are still around - Good luck to ya !

But...as my own club had fought numerous financial battles in the past we fought our way back and made it into Super League, Bradford Bulls were THE club then...trophies galore, thousands of flag waving, backpack wearing, singing, dancing families etc who were revelling in the glory, Glory also brought out 'glory hunters' and plenty of these came from my own town...the buses to and from Huddersfield were packed with Bulls fans who, along with the other glory hunters on the terraces took great pleasure in ridiculing my club, we had to listen to them spout like.... 'your ty little club don't deserve to be in the same league as us'
'You will never compete with us so f..k off back to the lower leagues' and lots of personal stuff aimed at our fans and players etc and as we got better and their glory dried up it turned to abuse....wishing our chairman would drop dead so we would go bust, our club is a horrible club and STILL didn't deserve to rub shoulders with the bulls etc...some nasty stuff came out of the mouths of some very bitter people over that way....indeed only in the last year or two over the Koppy transfer they are still at it...they even blamed our chairman for something and called him all the names under the sun, a week before he announced all away ticket sales from our game with them would go to their fund....well i am sorry but what comes around goes around, for those people, if indeed you are still bothering with the Bulls, and going by some of their posters especially on their board are, i have not one jot of sympathy for you lot - you reap what you sow - you wished death on my club, mine is prospering while yours dies...karma, irony, whatever you wanna call it..I know i will get slated for this cos were all supoosed to be one big happy family and have support and sympathy for the Bulls,well i dont and never will because of what i had to put up with from the 'poor little bulls fans' for years and years under their shadow !!

To the decent ones who always wished us well - you will be welcome at the JS stadium anytime and for you guys i hope you still have your club, in whatever division or name etc to support !

It would seem independent moderators for numerous clubs (me included) have called for calm.

I hope folks ON BOTH SIDES would take it on board. Please guys this isn't helpful and it's the last thing the majority of Bradford fans need.

Just for clarification I have been damning of Bradford in the past but this has been taken to a new level.

Edit-minority changed to majority.

For gods sake nobody has died its a rugby club with money troubles that's all people have long memories though Anakin that's why its been a bit nasty I think

You just said it yourself mate. It's got nasty.
Better to nip it in the bud now instead of allowing it to go a little Alan Pardew.

It's a forum where people voice their opinions, not everyone's opinion is one of total sympathy towards the Bradford club ...if people are allowed to post messages of good luck etc then its only fair that those who don't have a total love-in for that club are allowed to voice their's too.

You won't hear an arguement against that. However there has to be limits surely.

I agree.

It's not like some of these people are using abuse, or wishing death on people (you'd think they were from some reactions).

But what is really so wrong with just saying.......''

i hope bradford get relegated'' ?

Sure, as far as the "it's not Bradford's fault" attitude goes in the Bradford board - the "it's all Bradford's fault" attitude can go here.

Nobody wants anybody in the sport to go through this situation, but that doesn't mean that because it is happening the people to blame can't be blamed.

Yeah, and the only people to blame for bradfords situation is bradford themselves. No single person, but as a collective.

Successive managements have failed to follow the most fundemental business principles.

Players, and coaches have underperformed. Poor league performances, early exits from the CC and playoffs, failure to make the playoffs for 5 years.

And the fans. Caisley warned them in 2004 that if they wanted a bulls club, they needed to get out and support the team. The fanbase has dropped, having a devastated impact on revenue. Issues above will have contributed to that.

So no, bulls fans, it's not the big bad rfl's fault. It's bradfords.

Just to be clear, opposing views are absolutely fine. Saying "this is all Bradford's fault" is a view I actually think has some merit.

It's the personal stuff I think we need to knock on the head.

The way i see it is they have continued to act like a big, successful club long after they were a big, successful club without stopping and having a look around and someone going 'whoooah hang on a minute'. When it started going breasts vertical and people were concerned they were helped out - indeed by the RFL themselves- now they need more help because they failed to help themselves last time they have now resorted to blaming the people who helped them for not helping them again !!

If i lent a mate £100 cos he couldn't pay his leccy bill cos he'd spent it all on beer and partying that weekend and he asked me to do the same 3 weeks later would it be my fault that his leccy got cut off cos he hadn't learnt ??