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| Guys as much as some seem to be enjoying this can we at least try and remember that it's not a great situation and the saying 'There but for the grace of God, go I' seems to fit.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Guys as much as some seem to be enjoying this can we at least try and remember that it's not a great situation and the saying 'There but for the grace of God, go I' seems to fit.'"
For the vast majority of "professional" R L clubs
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Guys as much as some seem to be enjoying this can we at least try and remember that it's not a great situation and the saying 'There but for the grace of God, go I' seems to fit.'"
Nobody is enjoying what is happening to the club or to the vast majority of thee fans, but some of the more delusional Bradford posters on here deserve the ridiculing they are getting
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nobody is enjoying what is happening to the club or to the vast majority of thee fans, but some of the more delusional Bradford posters on here deserve the ridiculing they are getting'" It's a balancing act though GF.
Whilst ridiculing those fans I can't imagine the other fans are happy to have some taking the Micheal. I know I wouldn't be happy.
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| I seem to remwmber quite a few being rather cock a hoop at wakeys financial problems. What go's around and all that.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"
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No, of COURSE you didn't
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No, of COURSE you didn't
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What's happened to the ticket office on the Bradford bills website? Was it sheer volume of traffic from London fans trying to both book tickets at the same time that made it crash?
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| Quote ="inside man"I seem to remwmber quite a few being rather cock a hoop at wakeys financial problems. What go's around and all that.'"
Well if that's really the truth, wouldn't a reasonable person ONLY reciprocate with whoever those "quite a few" were, and not Bulls fans in general? Or if somebody from Bradford once kicked you last year, would you think it reasonable to give a good kicking to anybody from Bradford on your comes around basis?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nobody is enjoying what is happening to the club or to the vast majority of thee fans, but some of the more delusional Bradford posters on here deserve the ridiculing they are getting'"
Er, Durham Giant is not a Bradford poster. But it is true that Bradford fans' misfortune is certainly flushing the scum up out of the toilet sewers, that's for sure.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Er, Durham Giant is not a Bradford poster. But it is true that Bradford fans' misfortune is certainly flushing the scum up out of the toilet sewers, that's for sure.'"
Bless. Are you feeling a tad marginalised now FA. The constant denial and defending the indefensible must have taken its toll on Adeybull and the other bills defenders!
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| I suggest some of the personal stuff is put a stop to on here from both sides. Understand it's a touchy subject but we don't need it.
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| Quote ="inside man"I seem to remwmber quite a few being rather cock a hoop at wakeys financial problems. What go's around and all that.'"
I just banned a wakey user from RA&B for saying they were "enjoying" the Bulls situation and claiming we somehow did the same when Wakefield were struggling. Can you even back that up because, barring the odd nutjob, I think that is entirely fictional.
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| I have to say, as melodramatic as this may sound, if you do 'enjoy' what is happening to Bradford you really are a bit of filth. I cannot believe that the Rugby League family, as disfunctional as it is, would be quite THAT low.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Bless. Are you feeling a tad marginalised now FA. '"
Is that a contribution to this thread or have you nothing better to do than just repeated [iad hominem[/i attacks?
No, I do not "feel marginalised". I feel the same as I have always felt, attempting to discuss the thread subject, and respond to points made, but as often as not instead having to read yet another post like the one you just made.
Quote ="gutterfax"The constant denial and defending the indefensible must have taken its toll on Adeybull and the other bills defenders!'"
The collapse of the club we follow is taking a toll. Comments like this and the others mean less than zero to me. You may be allowed to make them, but please don't flatter yourself that you are in some way relevant to me, because you're not. I continue to be happy to discuss anything with you, but it seems clear that you don't want to discuss, you just want to carry on with this sort of attempt at goading. That's up to you. I just think it's sad.
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| Some, not all think that way. Just as there were a couple of bad apples at Bulls when Wakefield were in trouble, there are some the other way.
They don't speak for the rest of us.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"I suggest some of the personal stuff is put a stop to on here from both sides. Understand it's a touchy subject but we don't need it.'"
Yes, but from psychological, point of view, it makes interesting reading.
For people to take enjoyment out of this sorry mess, wow, their enjoyment threshold must be very low.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Yes, but from psychological, point of view, it makes interesting reading.
For people to take enjoyment out of this sorry mess, wow, their enjoyment threshold must be very low.'"
I just think the nature of failure in rugby league means so many are at each other's throats. Every opportunity seems to be at someone elses expense and every downfall benefits someone else in some way. It breeds a lot of jealousy and resentment.
Let's put it this way, two go down this year. If Bradford implode, it's one of the slots taken. It doesn't matter how tactful a fan is, if your club is likely to be scrapping at the bottom, you'll breathe a sigh of relief if it looks like you'll be safe for another year.
It's just sad people end up saying things they'll regret down the line. We've all been stupid once or twice but some live in stupid.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I have to say, as melodramatic as this may sound, if you do 'enjoy' what is happening to Bradford you really are a bit of filth. I cannot believe that the Rugby League family, as disfunctional as it is, would be quite THAT low.'"
Only in the echo chambers. Real world people are rational.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Is that a contribution to this thread or have you nothing better to do than just repeated [iad hominem[/i attacks?
No, I do not "feel marginalised". I feel the same as I have always felt, attempting to discuss the thread subject, and respond to points made, but as often as not instead having to read yet another post like the one you just made.
The collapse of the club we follow is taking a toll. Comments like this and the others mean less than zero to me. You may be allowed to make them, but please don't flatter yourself that you are in some way relevant to me, because you're not. I continue to be happy to discuss anything with you, but it seems clear that you don't want to discuss, you just want to carry on with this sort of attempt at goading. That's up to you. I just think it's sad.'"
You were calling people scum the very last page. I don't think I need to trawl 108 pages to see you attacking someone either. It's not doing anyone any favours.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"I just think the nature of failure in rugby league means so many are at each other's throats. Every opportunity seems to be at someone elses expense and every downfall benefits someone else in some way. It breeds a lot of jealousy and resentment.
Let's put it this way, two go down this year. If Bradford implode, it's one of the slots taken. It doesn't matter how tactful a fan is, if your club is likely to be scrapping at the bottom, you'll breathe a sigh of relief if it looks like you'll be safe for another year.
It's just sad people end up saying things they'll regret down the line. We've all been stupid once or twice but some live in stupid.'"
I’m afraid that’s the way it is now, society dictates & this is where we are.
Anyhow, it looks like the main protagonists have gone for a lay down.
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| So basically the RL family is largely of sound mind, but as with most families we have the odd racist gran.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Some, not all think that way. Just as there were a couple of bad apples at Bulls when Wakefield were in trouble, there are some the other way.
They don't speak for the rest of us.'"
Agreed, unfortunately the ones who post the "troll"
Posts are the ones who get noticed and reactions.
All forums have idiots.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I have to say, as melodramatic as this may sound, if you do 'enjoy' what is happening to Bradford you really are a bit of filth. I cannot believe that the Rugby League family, as disfunctional as it is, would be quite THAT low.'"
A bit of fun at another clubs expense has always gone on regardless of the situation.
The problem now is licencing and the continual shifting of rugby posts by the governing body when its suited there needs or wants.
Hopefully over the next few years the sport and some clubs can regain some integrity,i shan't be holding my breathe though,i can assure you of that.
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| Quote ="j.c"A bit of fun at another clubs expense has always gone on regardless of the situation.
The problem now is licencing and the continual shifting of rugby posts by the governing body when its suited there needs or wants.
Hopefully over the next few years the sport and some clubs can regain some integrity,i shan't be holding my breathe though,i can assure you of that.'"
If you tried holding your breath for the next few years you might have a bit of trouble.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"You were calling people scum the very last page. I don't think I need to trawl 108 pages to see you attacking someone either. It's not doing anyone any favours.'"
I did not call anybody scum. It is unfortunate that you have not called the person I was responding to for what he said,
Quote but some of the more delusional Bradford posters on here deserve the ridiculing they are getting '"
Trying to work out why you have singled me out for public rebuke, I am struggling. My post was:-
Quote Er, Durham Giant is not a Bradford poster. But it is true that Bradford fans' misfortune is certainly flushing the scum up out of the toilet sewers, that's for sure. '"
This was both a direct reference to the posts put up by DG, which are very strange, and especially unfortunate given he is a Mod; plus a general comment which I consider is very fair comment, especially on the RAB forum where some quite vile things have been said. Indeed, it is on much the same lines as a post by another Mod, this time one from RAB:
Quote ="Pumpetypump"I have to say, as melodramatic as this may sound, if you do 'enjoy' what is happening to Bradford you really are a bit of filth. '"
"Filth", "scum", all much of a muchness, but like me, he did NOT CALL ANY INDIVIDUAL "filth". I think his comment is very fairly said, and just as fair as mine, but as you publicly chide me, why haven't you done the same with him?
I don't claim to be a paragon of virtue but seem to be the first person who has been now singled out, when I would think I am one of the people trying to and mostly succeeding to sticking to topic.
And yes, with the greatest of respect you WILL have to trawl a lot more than 108 pages to see me attacking anyone. You will find that I only respond to attacks. I don't gratuitously make them. Typically I will make some comments about the situation at the Bulls, or answer some questions or address some issues, and then some wonderfully nice saintly individual will frequently come on and say nothing whatsoever in response, but just have a pop, attempt to take the pis, or otherwise flame.
Is it your view that if someone comes on here and has a right go at me, and the post is allowed to stay up, that I nevertheless can't respond? I'm sorry but either the attack goes, or I have a right of reply, as long as my reply does not breach AUP which I'm sure they do not.
I haven't even participated in the thread that much, and the first time I called someone an idiot was when one "Durham Giant", who like your good self is allegedly a Moderator somewhere, posted a purely gratuitous attack on me by name, thus:
Quote ="Durham Giant"I await with baited breath FA's suggestion and legal arguement on why the RFL have behaved illegally '"
... and that was on page 96. I had not said a word about anyone acting illegally, least of all the RFL. Nobody pulled him up on that.
I then retorted in kind to FlexWheeler when that person instead of posting anything on topic, posted that I was:
Quote Still blaming anyone other than those responsible I see........'"
... when I had not been doing any such thing. It was, of course, just done gratuitously and in an attempt to provoke, and so I think i was fair in putting him in his place in my defence.
And that's it. So why have a go at me? I don't get it. Next time perhaps you should think again about those 108 pages before you have a go at me for things which I haven't done.
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