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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"[url=http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/former-nrl-player-ryan-ohara-takes-aim-at-super-leagues-salford-owner-marwan-koukash/story-e6frf3ou-1227222311604O'Hara Proving His Worth?[/url'"
that's classless, uneducated and bigoted racist/tripe from O'Hara.....If I were Koukash I'd let the lawyers show the grub exactly what 'POOR" looks like.
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| He's just bitter because he thinks he's owed a few quid from Crusaders. He was stealing a wage anyway.
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| O'Hara might have a grudge against Harris, but dont put it on twitter. What he said about MK is, in this country at least probably illeagal. MK should drop a large defamation claim on him ASAP
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"O'Hara might have a grudge against Harris, but dont put it on twitter. What he said about MK is, in this country at least probably illeagal. MK should drop a large defamation claim on him ASAP'"
I'm not sure how twitter works in these cases.
Twitter is a USA based company. So probably legal under free speech laws over there.
The perpatrator is in France. Not sure but in France the laws could be different to UK but defamation is still illegal.
Victim is in the UK.
So were would Koukash lay the court proceedings???
Also he may just take the higher road and ignore the little worm as he is not worth his time of day. He's a business man so probably can do without the hassle of taking on everyone who makes comments about him, but then there is the principle that the worms comments are beyond the pale, so at least taking him to court would mean O'Hara learns it's costly to accuse someone of links to terrorism with nothing more than skin colouration to go on.
I do think Koukash brings an element of the unknown to the game but in terms of actual actions Koukash has done nothing to deserve this kind of abuse.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Twitter is a USA based company. So probably legal under free speech laws over there.'" I'm no expert, but surely "freedom of speech" doesn't go so far as to make it alright to publically label someone a terrorist?
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| I'm also sure people have been prosecuted here for things they've posted on Twitter despite it being a US firm for things like racist comments. Though that's criminal prosecutions (ie racist) rather than civil matters (defamation) but from my very limited knowledge of such things I think Koukash could decide to sue O'Hara in either Britain or France and maybe the US.
Personally, if he doesn't receive a grovelling apology from O'Hara, I think he should try the criminal route for the racist nature of the comments. If that doesn't work then sue him for everything he's got, including what Crusaders owed him.
I have no sympathy whatsoever with pieces of sh|t like O'Hara. The more people like him removed from RL the better.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I'm not sure how twitter works in these cases.
Twitter is a USA based company. So probably legal under free speech laws over there.
The perpatrator is in France. Not sure but in France the laws could be different to UK but defamation is still illegal.
Victim is in the UK.
So were would Koukash lay the court proceedings???'"
Although the comments are posted from France the comment can be read here in the UK so he has been defamed in this country and can take court proceedings here if he wishes.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"Although the comments are posted from France the comment can be read here in the UK so he has been defamed in this country and can take court proceedings here if he wishes.'"
This.
Same reason Russian oligarchs can sue each other here in the UK, where defamation cases are much quicker to process and easier to bring than back home.
You can bring proceedings in any country in which you can show you have been defamed - basically pretty much anywhere the comments could have been read.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"This.
Same reason Russian oligarchs can sue each other here in the UK, where defamation cases are much quicker to process and easier to bring than back home.
You can bring proceedings in any country in which you can show you have been defamed - basically pretty much anywhere the comments could have been read.'"
So with it being a world wide forum, he could literally be sued separately in every country in the world?
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| [url=http://www.clydeco.com/insight/updates/view/defamation-and-social-media-in-the-uaeDubai Maybe Worth A Try[/url
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| I suspect he is too busy ripping up Hocks contract to worry about being called names.
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| Quote ="wire quin"I suspect he is too busy ripping up Hocks contract to worry about being called names.'"
I doubt it.
They stood by him when he received a 7 game ban for knocking down an official, I'm sure they won't do anything for "only" a 6 game ban.....
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| Does Hock now hold the title as the most banned player ever, even just for on-field disciplinary reasons.
Since 2011 hock has accumulated:
6 matches (3 for each offence) - use of the knees.
7 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
4 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
1 match - abusive language to match official.
2 matches - punching.
4 matches - gouging.
1 match - punching.
So 25 games of suspension (and I can only find records since 2011 on the RFL site). Can anyone come anywhere close?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Does Hock now hold the title as the most banned player ever, even just for on-field disciplinary reasons.
Since 2011 hock has accumulated:
6 matches (3 for each offence) - use of the knees.
7 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
4 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
1 match - abusive language to match official.
2 matches - punching.
4 matches - gouging.
1 match - punching.
So 25 games of suspension (and I can only find records since 2011 on the RFL site). Can anyone come anywhere close?'"
Oh dear,that is appalling.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Does Hock now hold the title as the most banned player ever, even just for on-field disciplinary reasons.
Since 2011 hock has accumulated:
6 matches (3 for each offence) - use of the knees.
7 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
4 matches - deliberate contact with match referee.
1 match - abusive language to match official.
2 matches - punching.
4 matches - gouging.
1 match - punching.
So 25 games of suspension (and I can only find records since 2011 on the RFL site). Can anyone come anywhere close?'"
2 years for drugs too.......
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| Nasty piece of work. We need to get rid. There was enough negative publicity nationally with the Flower thuggery.
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| It works out that since 2008 Hock has played 110 games, and been banned for 102 (68 drugs ban and 33 onfield)* Heck of a record!
Unless I'm mistaken his ban ends in round 9 vs Wigan, which is the same game Flowers ban ends right?
*cant take credit for working out the numbers, I just saw them elsewhere
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| Hock must be close to a permanent suspension from the game, surely?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"It works out that since 2008 Hock has played 110 games, and been banned for 102 (68 drugs ban and 33 onfield)* Heck of a record!
Unless I'm mistaken his ban ends in round 9 vs Wigan, which is the same game Flowers ban ends right?
*cant take credit for working out the numbers, I just saw them elsewhere
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He is the walking definition of "a liability"
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| He's almost getting into John Hopoate territory now.
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| He's good entertainment value though. If we wanted exposure like the WWE, he is the heel.
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| Didnt Les Boyd get 2 huge bans?
Different era I accept
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| Quote ="wire quin"Didnt Les Boyd get 2 huge bans?
Different era I accept'"
Yep, including 18 months for deliberately breaking an opponent's jaw, if I remember correctly. At which point he came over here and finished his career without any trouble. Oddly, he was a very quiet and polite bloke to talk to off the pitch.
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| Boyd smashed Daryl Brohman's jaw and ended his career with a premeditated elbow. Got 12 months, wasn't back long and then picked up a 15 month suspension for eye-gouging.
At the time Jim Comans was on a purge to clean up the game in Australia, and Boyd gave him the perfect opportunity to put down a marker. If you watch some of the NSWRL stuff from the pre-Comans period, it was like Mad Max. Knees and elbows flying in everywhere, players being king hit and taken out off the ball.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder" If you watch some of the NSWRL stuff from the pre-Comans period, it was like Mad Max. Knees and elbows flying in everywhere, players being king hit and taken out off the ball.'"
Proper rugby back in those days ....
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