England are getting on top in the game so the cheat video ref pulls out of the hat two of the worst decisions I have seen in my life. Clearly a knock on before Lewis' first try and if Tate had control of that ball than I am Paul "bottled squaring up to big Sam" Gallen. Embarassing to call that rugby league.

aussie refs give us nowt!! Forward to Leroy?? every decision has gone their way. However we dont help ourselves by dropping it, knocking on etc...

Very poor effort from Video Ref

The Tate try was a try. Get over it

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Have stopped watching. Sick of being cheated over 40 years by Aussies. Everything goes their way. From the very first penalty, when the Aussie should have been penalised for moving off the mark to the knock-on try and the in-touch/no touch-down, it is England being worn down by atrocious decisions. Year after Year, decade after decade - and we just take it without a murmur. And the rule changes/interpretations/ref appointments. Don't start me on itineraries - everything weighted to Australia.

Tate's wasn't a try, he never had control over that ball.

You can't complain about England making shocking mistake but the Aussie's getting everything again doesn't help.

Wally Lewis didn't think so.

I'll go with his opinion.

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Abysmal

if you think that Tate's try was a try get off this forum, he had absolute no control, there was daylight between his finger and the ball hence the 2metre bounce.

Newsflash: Tuquri scores a try from a disgusting forward pass.

No wonder our game gets little respect when the credibility of the game is under scrutiny.

2meter bounce



He had fingertip control ergo try. If you dont know the rules, get off the forum.

There was nothing wrong with tates try he had fingertip control. The second try was a knock on and the first in the second half was as clear a forward pass as you will ever see in the game. That said England are pathetic. Tomkins is miles out of his depth, he offers nothing in attack, kick return or defence.

untill we all play to the same rules for NRL super league and international, there will always be confusion. untll we get neural refs there will always be the feeling of bieng cheated. until we get these simple things right our game will be a laughing stock

I thought Tate bounce it to be honest.I thought he lost it on the way down. The first one though was a blatant knock on.How the video ref couldnt see the balls movement change after he touched it is beyond me im afraid.

refs call - nothing. its a joke

Except the ball didnt touch the line. It was short. Correct call

and add that the woeful centre who is Ryan Atkins. Completely out of his depth. His defence is woeful.

The score has flattered Australia, ref and video ref have seen to that.

Tates try was never a try in a million years, Cronk knocked on blatantly for Lewis second try. Tuquiri was on the end of a move that contained a pass that was so far forward it would have made Dan Marino happy.

The joke was confirmed when he pulled England for a forward pass to Cudjoe yet in the very next tackle tuquiri is put into open space from a pass that nearly went over the dead ball line

If I was Australian I would be embarrassed at the officials. The Aussies clearly don't need extra help to beat England but get it anyway. If the boot was on the other foot and it was British officials and Australia on the end of the decisions the uproar would not subside for months.

agreed,but I suppose the countless basic errors from the english were not a major factor ???

none of the aussie commentary team saw Cronk's knock on.

Lunt was on the line, BOD at the worst. Tate's try was on the line as well, and in addition, he's dropped it. Until we sort out three things;

1.) Pacific Islanders in Australia, because of the State of Origin rules. All that needs to happen is the ARL, for the good of the international game, need to say you don't have to play for Australia to play in Origin. It would even out the playing field for countries like England, and even Fiji, Tonga and Samoa.

2.) Make sure Aussie refs don't ref Aussie games. It wouldn't happen in SL, it wouldn't happed in a bloody Toyota Cup game, refs should not be from one of the sides Home Field.

3.) England need to get a better f**king coach. It's simple. Get a proper coach, and you will get a better squad and win things, not draw with NZ Maori!

Please don't use the word control, no control whatsoever. His little finger might have been touching the ball but he had lost control in the process.

We were on the wrong end of poor refereeing decisions. Fact. However they also gloss over the real truths that we are light years away form ever competing at this level. This was an aussie side minus 5 or so world class regular starts yet we didnt get near to them and they had more gears to go through. As usual, no gameplan. And we have a coach who struggled to coach a super league side never mind trying to be successful at this level. Woeful.