Yes we all know that you can refuse be TUPE'd but it has to be done within a certain time and that is the whole crux the matter. You either accept or decline and then try look for other employ. You can't wander the country until you find another employer and the decide to decline. As said previously keeping company assets is seen as implied acceptance.

All the cash taken by Gareth since he joined the Bulls has been offered back but not accepted yet so Carvs says on twitter.
Think it would be best for Bulls to cut and run, save on legal costs etc

The sports lawyer in the T&A report said you had to decide the same day if you accept or not,if I'm not mistaken.Certainly not wait for next pay day to receive your wage and keep driving round in the sponsored car

And we all know we can believe what Carvs says. Lying barsteward.

So is he lying, or are the trolls who have been saying he left cos he wasn't being paid now proved to have been talking utter bollox?

Correct,suppose he will bring it back in the club sponsors car he shouldn't of been driving

All the wages?
Hasn't he only been at the bulls since November?
3 pay cheques?

Would that be the same 3 wages that you Wakie fans KNEW the RFL were paying

You mad, bro?

Never knew Ice Cube was a Wakefield fan. You live and learn.

And that Carvell was never paid as everyone knows that's the reason he wanted out.

Agreed. IF (and its a big IF) he has offered the money back then we should take it! There's no way on way on this earth he will appear in a Bradford shirt.

The reason I don't belie him is surely he cannot afford to hand over 3 months wages and even then, why would he be so Desperate to leave us to go to hull and give up 3 months wages for the privilege? He's going to be Worse off financially especially when you include travelling.

I honestly don't want this to go to court, we simply can't afford the legal costs. As much as it may p1$$ some fans off, we may have to bite the bullet.

As it happens no I'm not mad

Bro????

So he has been paid, puts to bed that rumour then, wonder why he decided to leave the week the season started and not Nov/Dec when he offered ll the chance to leave if they wanted?

Which sets a dangerous precedent.

Carvell. The new Bosman.

If he pays the club back, will he also pay for the shirts that your fans bought and stuck his name on the back?

Interesting.
If, and its a 10 foot high if with spots on, [iif [/ithats true it rasies a couple of interesting points. He must be acknowledging he has wronged the club in some way and feels the need to make it right preferably out of court, and he was getting paid (so many experts knew he had'nt been paid... FACT) and he probably wants the situation cleared before he plays tomorrow.

IF, it is true, I'd take it, I'm pretty sure he used our contract offer in order to get more from Wire last summer, and felt he was stuck with us when wire didn't budge. I'd also guess he probably did honestly intend to make the best of it with us, but then with the admin and the loophole appearing he and his agent took the opportunity to get out to a destination he would probably have chosen over us had it been an option for him last summer.

From this point us and him are better off without each other and if this is a genuine offer we should take it, dress it up however the club want to, as a win for a tough stance or whatever, but move on, we have bigger concerns frankly than a player who's already gone.

Easy way to avoid this, don't go into admin then he can't go. If we didn't go into admin Carvell would still be a bulls player.

What happens if we name him in our squad for Sunday?

I agree with this. Nobody on here has been more vociferous than me on here in regards to the administration issue.

I know why he has gone and I can understand why he has decided to go. That still, however, does not make me want to wish him well.

We play with 16 men against a team that recently put nearly seventy past us in a relegation year.

He won't be much cop. He has a tough game ahead of him tomorrow night against the monstrous Catalan pack. I reckon he will be blowing steam out of his posterior after about five minutes.

Two games in less than 48 hours is a tough ask for a 32 year old prop.

That's a pretty good point.I too would ask him to pay the money back without a doubt.He is admitting he's done wrong,why else would he make the offer?. I cannot understand why such a good player would act like this twice in his career.We know his personal situation with his son,the man probably goes through more everyday than most of us could ever think of.We are talking about purely rugby and there is no doubt in my mind he is completely in the wrong

The administration issue was to resolve the ownership dispute between Newco and OK. All the players knew about this and it wasn't about non payment of Bulls. The fact is that the RFL went back on their word and imposed a 28 day time limit on accepting further offers. For those with slightly longer memories than the proverbial goldfish they may remember that when Newco found the big hole in the budget they said that they would not stand in anybody's way if they could wanted to leave. That meant that Mr Carvell could have left with their blessing had Hull come forward at the time and made a nominal offer for him or had Mr Clarke (spit!!) got him another contract. The situation now is that Hull want him for nothing and are prepared to let 'Carvs' fight it out in court as they suspect that Newco can't afford to take legal recourse.