Well you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to see that. We do need to offload a lot of players who are surplus to requirements. We need to think long term rather than thrashing around signing players every 5 minutes. It doesn't build any continuity or loyalty. To some extent we're handicapped in that players that want to play in SL will only sign for a year or so but these are the kind of players you need to get promoted.

The team hasn’t looked happy in many weeks but I think that’s down to frustration at not performing on the pitch and I think that is down to us not recruiting well enough. Hopefully Smith can address that but I think 2016 is a write off.

OK it didnt happen, the Dewsbury player who told me must have been lying for no reason.

It would have been interesting what his decision would have been if Fax did actually table an offer. One team on the way up and another on the way down, probably not the easiest choice by any means especially with the desire to play for his hometown team at some point.

It’s sad that committed long term Fax fans like yourself feel the need to come on here and stir things up with comments about how “we’re on the way down”. You’ve been around long enough to rise above that nonsense surely?

We both happen to follow clubs that have had much better days in the past. Both clubs have been the victims of useless owners on many occasions. Both clubs have had the begging buckets out. Both clubs will fail in winning promotion this year.

Why the petty point scoring?

lewis Charnock signed on a months loan

No, you're the liar. You said "rumours around the game" when it turns out you now claim it's just something you were told by some un-named Dewsbury player, and not "rumours around the game" at all.

I would ask how he would know, unless he was hiding in a cupboard in the Bradford changing room, but I'm not actually interested.

Maybe next time you are having a chat you'd ask how come a number of players have recently been signing new deals with the club, seeing as they're all so unhappy with it?

I guess that's cover for Gaskell if true.

Agreed. The way he's gloating you'd think Fax are top of championship! In a few weeks Bradford could be easily 3rd and Fax be in the shield. Equally vice versa. All this "Bradford's on their way down, Fax n their way up" Bradford currently get double the attendance Fax do, are full time, a hugely successful junior academy. Fax are at least 5 years off that. Fax's biggest challenge will be when they go FT. Sheffield have proved that the transition isn't always straight forward.

I actually want Fax to do well, one of the best rugby stadiums going. A good solid support base that if in SL, would exceed at least 3 SL clubs. Laying some good foundations for a good future hopefully.

Sadly people like Greg are why this sport never goes anywhere. They would rather a rival club fails than their both clubs succeed and enjoy a healthy rivalry.

As for the mood in the camp, the team spirit and togetherness is actually one of our strong points. In fact the culture and togetherness of the Bradford club over the years has always been one of the best.

How did he know? He was sat straight behind them with the rest of the Dewsbury non playing first team squad.

He said it was embarrassing and no surprise they are doing badly if thats what the spirit in the camp was like.

As for players signing new deals maybe it is simply a case of them not been able to get a deal at better clubs and wanting to stay full time leaving Sheffield and Bradford as their only option and we all know nobody wants to play for Sheffield.

You see that is where you are wrong, Im not really in the Bull haters camp. I really could not care less how Bradford do, obviously I would be happy if we finished above them but who wouldnt in this league? Im also very happy that we get derby games against them again and do actually have a few Bradford fans that I call friends.

With your last sentence you have basically done the same as me though, how do you know the team spirit is one of the best? All I were doing is reporting what I had heard, I literally have no reason to lie, its ok fans getting behind the team but if some of the players can't do that then what hope is there. Unless Im just making another silly rumour up just for the sake of it, obviously I have a record for doing that.

Or, in other words, he has no idea what the spirit in the camp is like, and he (or you) have built a sandcastle which turns out to be hearsay reported by someone who was sat behind some non-playing Bulls players and whatever he may have overheard or thought he did, overlaid with his own assumptions.

The truth emerges that he has NO IDEA what the "spirit in the camp" might be.

Whereas you upgraded this tittle-tattle into "Rumors around the game"!

Worse, you said these "Rumors around the game" were that "Bradford need a total overhaul of players". Obviously, nobody said any such thing, so you made that bit up. You added "...as its not a very happy camp at the moment". Based on what? Again, nothing that I can see, though if asked, I'd certainly hope that the squad weren't "happy" at teatime Sunday and there'd be something seriously wrong if they were.

Loads of turd.One player who had agreed terms with a new team under Lowes now wishes he was stopping under the totally new atmosphere under Smith no longer like been at school.

Curious you should use these words. I've been binge watching RL coaching seminar videos over the last few weeks, specifically those given by that generation of Aussie club coaches from the '70 World Cup leading up to '82 and the Invincibles. From that first professional era in RL I think there was only Jack Gibson who didn't have a previous life as a school teacher. A subsequent generation, but Brian Smith also began his professional life as a school teacher.

We have signed one but not gaskell

A bulls player? Or a stand off?

Probably Ferguson I guess.

Yep but wishes he hadn't now.

Can't he just change his mind? Players do it to us all the time? What's the worst that can happen? Huddersfield get a bit cross?

He reneges on Shudds, we get sued for cohersing him, and go bust again?

He could wait until they play Catalans away and just not turn up at the airport....

Like GoB did with Wire, he could just say to Hudds - "I really want to stay at Bradford pleeease" and then, like we did, they should release him from his contract. Although GoB was staying in SL when we did that I suppose.

Option 2 would be to see if they lost the MPG to Leigh, then we could get him back at that point as his contract would be voided with relegation. Few other players there who we could look at in that case

We're trying to get Sam Wood on loan for rest of this season, Anderson doesn't want to commit to a full season so he's currently at Oldham. He wants to come to us tho'

Sam Wood or Kyle Wood?

Sam is an outside back if I remember rightly. We can't be doing this again, filling up on three-quarters.

Sam Wood

Sam Wood? He's a great young player. I just wish OUR academy could produce players like him the way Hudds one does

Well at the moment we're massively light on centres. Blythes not good enough. Walshaw is a second-rower, Purtell is crocked and JPB seems to have dropped of the face of the earth. Then's only Welham who's a natrual decent centre at the moment. Wood impressed me when he made his debut, particularly defensively, which is a weakness for us.