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| Quote ="Bulliac"If we drop out of SL my Sky sports will go, if we are in the lower leagues then that will be my interest not SL. I haven't been to an international for years and only go to cup finals, play-off finals or MM if we're involved so that won't change. I'll still follow the club home and away though, it's been too long to change now..'"
Same here. Lose the Bulls and lose me.
I'll keep Sky sports though for other sports that I watch but I'll probably not bother with Superleague anymore.
I'll not go to any internationals anymore or anything like that either.
It's not cutting my nose off to spite my face I'll just be interested in something else.
If the Bulls folded and then a club didn't reform I doubt I'd bother with professional Rugby League full stop.
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| Believe .................. Being in The Championship is NOT the End of the World that some of You seem to believe !
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| Quote ="FredLindopsLoveChild"Believe .................. Being in The Championship is NOT the End of the World that some of You seem to believe !'"
No, it's not mate you're absolutely right, the end of the world would be not having a club. And even that is probably an exaggeration....probably. But just as many in the Championship regard SL as some sort of, holy grail which they must have, then equally when you are in SL you don't necessarily want to play in the Championship either. Particularly when it appears we are being railroaded into it.
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| Quote ="FredLindopsLoveChild"Believe .................. Being in The Championship is NOT the End of the World that some of You seem to believe !'"
I don't have a problem with having a club in CC1, but why can't the RFL come clean about where we will be rather than stringing us along and saying we can't guarantee this, that or the other. If it's to be no SL then i would rather see us fold now and start a new club in CC1.
How can you expect some one to cough up big bucks for the club only to find it starts next season in CC1, when you could form a new club for a fraction of the price. Three years ago Doncaster went into admin and were relegated to CC1. They reformed the club with very little money and a support base of around 250! Last week they achieved promotion, have trebled their crowds and are operating at a small profit.
It can be done and i'm sure Bradford would steam through the division much easier than the likes of Donny. Just a little honesty from the RFL as to where the club will find itself is all i ask.
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| Quote ="FredLindopsLoveChild"Believe .................. Being in The Championship is NOT the End of the World that some of You seem to believe !'"
I'm not saying it is the end of the world. I'm just saying that if that's where the bulls are playing I probably won't bother watching Super league.
Much the same way that I don't really bother with Premier league football because I don't support a team in it.
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| I Must admit the RFL need to get this sorted ASAP just so that you can move on ......... if you love your Rugby and i'm sure you all do then may it be Championship 1 or Super Duper League you need to know NOW !
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| id like to say that if they intend us to drop it would help both us and the replacement side to have some notice and planning.
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| Quote ="domthebull"id like to say that if they intend us to drop it would help both us and the replacement side to have some notice and planning.'"
Precisely! Remember when huddersfield were thrown in at short notice because Paris St Germain had fallen by the wayside?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"I don't have a problem with having a club in CC1, but why can't the RFL come clean about where we will be rather than stringing us along and saying we can't guarantee this, that or the other. If it's to be no SL then i would rather see us fold now and start a new club in CC1.
How can you expect some one to cough up big bucks for the club only to find it starts next season in CC1, when you could form a new club for a fraction of the price. Three years ago Doncaster went into admin and were relegated to CC1. They reformed the club with very little money and a support base of around 250! Last week they achieved promotion, have trebled their crowds and are operating at a small profit.
It can be done and i'm sure Bradford would steam through the division much easier than the likes of Donny. Just a little honesty from the RFL as to where the club will find itself is all i ask.'"
I'm with you.
To be honest, I'm quite warming up to the idea of rolling up my sleeves and getting involved with a Championship I club operated as some model of 'supporter led'.
Basically, I'm just sick of it dragging on and on and on with no clear signs of resolution
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| Have to agree. Sick of it now after all these weeks and months. I have supported Northern/Bulls since I was 8 and I am now 63. Was at the last home match before they folded in 1963. If we are in the Championship well so be it, we will still be there. Sod em all I say!
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| Sunday could be a fairly downbeat occasion.
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| Brendan - over to you - tell the RFL they have NO chance of an uncoditional bid and do what you have to but put us out of our misery now!! 1967 was my 1st game, can only have missed 3 or 4 games a season since and I'm just p****d off with the whole situation
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| Beechwood -- I was at the same game and have always regretted not buying a programme.
Cibaman-- perhaps not downbeat but almost certainly emotional. Let's show the Superleague what they will be missing.
Just a thought-- there should be a public invitation to Mr Wood or Mr Solly to address the FANS at half time. You could even extend that invite to either of the bidders.
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| Drove home for an hour thinking about this again - the players and coaches deserve the chance to compete until the end of the year and reach the play offs -go out on a high - hope someone can find a way to make it happen, especially paying the coaches, and have a big party at Headingley when we beat the old enemy!
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| Or how about storm the playoffs, win grand final and get booted out. Championship 1 Bradford Phoenix versus Melbourne Storm in world club challenge at Horsfall Stadium.
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| Quote ="Bulls4"I dont like the idea of this thread (no offense to the OP) but its just seems as though some have given up and already decided we have gone...
The RFL have given us a lot of help, more than they have helped other teams in the past but they will not spoon feed us and nor should they be expected to! I think both the RFL and us are in a hole but atleast it is the same hole! The RFL are playing tough ball over the conditions because they cant afford to lose any more ground over this whole scenario and any reasonable party with money would be nervous about investing any money into a club if they didnt know what league they would be in after a few months or even if they can adapt the ground to make it self viable so its a stalemate at the moment!
But negotiations are exactly that, and i am hopeful that a common ground will be found very soon! We as fans shouldnt be putting across the vibe off lets just pack it in now and screw the rest... well not IMO!
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I can't understand those advocating a 'scorched earth' exit policy. It might give you some perverse pleasure but it will probably guarantee the death of professional RL in Bradford for decades. The players deserve better as well.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Or how about storm the playoffs, win grand final and get booted out. Championship 1 Bradford Phoenix versus Melbourne Storm in world club challenge at Horsfall Stadium.'"
Nice thought but unlikely
The Storm won't win the NRL
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| Who was the last club to fail to complete a season in the top tier of a full time national proffessional sport ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Who was the last club to fail to complete a season in the top tier of a full time national proffessional sport ?'"
There were some near misses late 90's when Union went pro, but probably Northern in 63 when there was only 1 league
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| Quote ="ryano" ............snip ....... it will probably guarantee the death of professional RL in Bradford for decades. The players deserve better as well.'"
I'd suggest it's far more clear. The RFL's intransigence, for whatever reason, has all but guaranteed that. IMHO. . . . .
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| Quote ="Bullpower"I'd suggest it's far more clear. The RFL's intransigence, for whatever reason, has all but guaranteed that. IMHO.
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I'm slightly baffled by this line of thought as though any of those involved in a complex process are revelling in any element of the difficulty, RFL included.
In saying that, I would like the RFL to identify how they believe a serious bidder would make any submission based on a tenuous knowledge of how and where the business will be operating. It is a farcically narcissistic expectation on their part. No serious entity would submit two business models based on SL trading vs C1 trading.
Perhaps if they stopped cow towing to the whims of two key SL chairmen (and Hetherington is ironically heavily on our side) our road forward may be a little less full of gravel.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"I'm slightly baffled by this line of thought as though any of those involved in a complex process are revelling in any element of the difficulty, RFL included. '"
Possibly only a little less than I was when I read the above in connection with what I'd posted . . . . ????
Quote ="Gurus_Beard"..... In saying that, I would like the RFL to identify how they believe a serious bidder would make any submission based on a tenuous knowledge of how and where the business will be operating. It is a farcically narcissistic expectation on their part. No serious entity would submit two business models based on SL trading vs C1 trading. .......'"
Although this bit covers what's behind what I posted . . . only more fully / eloquently G-B . . . . . . . They (RFL) won't identify that though will they. Nor will they won't move away from the position of "no conditional bids" . . . . .. thereby stuffing any real chance of a success bidder and, IMHO, "guaranteeing the death of professional RL in Bradford"
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| As long as coaches and support staff are willing to work for nowt to put games on, I'm happy to turn up to watch them.
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"There were some near misses late 90's when Union went pro, but probably Northern in 63 when there was only 1 league'"
That was a regional and definitely part time sport, so doesn't meet the conditions!
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| Not heard/read the following in a while . . . . mayhaps it's worth mulling it over at this point in time. . . .
"[iLet me tell you something you already know.
The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.
You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward.
How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!
Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody!
Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that!
I'm always gonna love you no matter what. No matter what happens. You're my life and you're my blood. You're the best thing in my life. But until you start believing in yourself, ya ain't gonna have a life.
. . . . . and don't forget to visit your mother"[/i
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