So we have a new-ish club, albeit with no current players or coach. We know that part of the deal was to reinstate the academy (big sighs from certain other teams in regards their future players there) but how the hell are the new owners going to sell such a damaged product as the Bulls to fans, the disgruntled and even (incredibly) attract new fans?

Apart from our recent history there is the 12 point deduction, and most of our star players being sold meaning that we're already in a relegation battle before the season begins!

I'm aware of at least one ST holder who since getting his refund has stated that its probably curtains for him, and I imagine he isn't the only one.

What can they do to win fans trust back?

For a start give everyone free transport to the light stream on 5th Feb. From acorns etc.

Relegation battle from the off? Yup, as Leigh are likely to have. Bongser worked with a West Ham fan in the 90s and was told that the previous season when Redknapp had established the team as a mid-table outfit had been far less exciting and engaging than the last few relegation threatened seasons. Avoiding the Big R is a rallying flag. Bongser looks forward to the esprit de corps at LSV next season. Much better than 2014 when wiinning all but one match and having b00gah all to show for it.

Not here to preach, merely hope that the new club is supported whilst understanding that some Bratfudlian fingers that have been scorched may no longer be crossed for the newbies.

Best of British!

Now that for me would go a long way! Plus a spirited performance. I am fully expecting to lose by 40-50 if not more. But if I can see some heart and soul from the players, that is something I can get behind!

Off the field, some intent. Like honoring season tickets (I'm not an ST holder) but it would show that they care for the fans. Even though as a new club they don't have to honor them. And also the signing of Rohan, Chisholm, Pryce and the rest of the lads. Build the team around Lumb, Ryan, Oakes, Kirk and Halafihi. Plus make a good loan signing or two before the first home game.

I think any marketing promotion would be better focused on filling Odsal to be honest.

Im looking at the long term plan, we cant expect the team to be in super league next year. A season battling against religation, and if that happens which is a probability an off season without any dramas and the chance for the coach (hopfully mr smith) to plan for promotion back to the championship and build again. We have one thing that most other teams don't have, a fan base. We need to stick behing the new owners and rebuild. I think there is a need for the owners to build some bridges and provide some stability to bradford rugby league. If they can do this im in for the long haul

From a Fax fan, we've been waiting 14 years to get out of this league. I'm sure the RFL will fasttrack Bradford to Super League when they change the structures again due to their "iconic" status.

They'll probably give Salford, Leigh & Wakey the boot for Bradford, Toronto and Toulouse.

In 10 years time, the game will once again become semi-professional due to lack of exposure, sponsorship, fan disillusionment and unsustainability.
The game is dying at grassroots level. The quality of RL is poor. Any quality now goes to Oz or Union.
And Nigel Wood will keep collecting his salary and Rugby League has never been in better shape!

Have CDs, IPods etc reached Fax yet. In fact has the fax machine. Scratched vinyl does have a habit of repeating itself. Gets tedious after a while. Bongser will qualify his comment however by saying that, even were it without the Leigh rat connection, he'd still be against the whole Tranny Atlantic thing. Bonkers.

Yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn.
Yep the RFL are yet again favouring us.
Dear RFL thank you for giving the new Bradford club minus 12 points - you are too generous

Genuine question.

How many years is it going to take before your bitterness subsides? It's been quite a few now since you all felt you were @rse raped by Bradford, and yet you're still really really sour about it. Do you think you'll ever get over it?

(Aimed at this particular halfwit, not the decent Fax fans)

I hope I never reach your level of bitterness, I really do.

Yep you are absolutely right. Rugby league is dying from the lack of exposure that Halifax not being in Superleague has caused.
The fact Halifax are not in superleague is entirely down to Bradford.

Time to stand up for my fellow fax fan. He isn't saying its bradfords fault that we aren't in super league. Regards your 12 point deduction, any other club would have had to start again on champ 1.

Glad you didn't go down anyway as that's 4 points for fax next season. Plus we get to go to the magnificent

Odsal stadium.

You make out that is the new owners wanted to be in this league, I am totally bemused by this, you tell me of any other sport who would do what the rfl have done leaving them in the same league off -12 points,, it's the rfl that is becoming a laughing stock not bradford

We don't help ourselves though do we?

Not been bias or anything like that,but in my mind Bradford bulls have done more for super league than the rfl have, the bulls put the English game on the map as far as the super league era goes

I do wish these muppets from Halifax would take a look round this board before dropping their ordure all over it.

If they did, they'd see that the vast majority on here WANTED TO BE PUT IN CHAMP 1.
Do you all really, really, really think it's our choice to go through a season where we're most likely get whipped every week and finish up being relegated?

They're all brainless Bulliac.

What an utter plank. Sitting here with no club, no players, no meaningful season ahead except certain relegation, having lost some super players and excellent staff, having been stripped of one of the best and most promising academy setups, I log on to read some twaat who STILL thinks Bradford is being favoured by the RFL.

if we are, then it is a bit like Chernobyl was favoured by the bang.

Did you even read what you put?

Obviously you are so rabidly deluded that there's no point in even trying to talk to you.

Of course we do! We love this type of favouritism and special treatment the RFL grant us. It's easy to see why other fans are so jealous of us

Just to clear up your actual madness levels - you don't actually think that forcing the new startup to play in the Championship is a BENEFIT? Or that Bradford fans WANT this farcical season of whuppings?

Proper little Gaolers pet aren't we?

Take Fax fans case. They hung him up here 14 years ago. Every night, they take him down for twenty minutes, then they hang him up again, which he regards as very fair, in view of what he's done, and, if nothing else, it's taught him to respect the Romans, and it's taught him... that you'll never get anywhere in this life, unless you're prepared to do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay!

And we're getting off lightly with crucifixion

Line on the left, one cross each.

Although a Northern/Bulls fan all my life I did work for fax for a couple of years and thoroughly enjoyed it. A great club who should be in Super League with some knowledgeable fans. Clearly you're not one of them.
Almost every Bulls fan would prefer a clean start in Champ 1 rather than the poison chalice presented by fat Nige and co.
Your pathetic gloating is not welcome so sod off!

Absolutely, TPK.

Sad fact is, I know quite a few Fax fans, and they're really top people and none of them would come on another club's board just to gloat. I do feel for some people though, having to carry that weight of bile around every day for years and years - I'd crack under the strain.