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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Our defence became fine last season too, Simon, so don't act dumb. Everyone knows we had a perfectly good defence, once the players actually decided to bend their backs and defend.
Our attack wasn't all dull last year either. We scored some beautiful tries, some from deep too. Last year everyone was also on here blathering about us being the worst Saints team in 90 years and how we couldn't attack/defend/blow our noses, yet we got better - in spite of our awful injuries (nothing to do with the coach, again) - and got to another GF.
No, I am fully convinced here that Royce has been shafted and that we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite us on the backside.'"
It won't.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Darrell Griffin was the best prop available and he wanted to go to the champions. What's your next move now that's one gone?'"
That's just poor business, never take anything for granted until the player has signed.
However, jammer said he was off early last year so we had plenty of time to find a suitable replacement.
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| Quote ="St pete"That's just poor business, never take anything for granted until the player has signed.
However, jammer said he was off early last year so we had plenty of time to find a suitable replacement.'"
It is also what happened so what's your next move?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I would also like Brown. His work at Huddersfield has been sensational. I'd also like their youth system though as they produce some top quality backs and probably better forwards than we do as well.'"
Look we are playing utter rubbish but should still have beat hudds when we played them a few weeks ago; so why would we want brown who also comes accross as a total whinger.
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| Quote ="McClennan"It is also what happened so what's your next move?'"
Lidten mate, Anyone with half a brain would have signed a prop soon as jammer said he was off.
It's not rocket science.
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| the next move is nothing, hope that la frank a good back rower can do the work of one of the top props in world, and keep 'playing' an extra back on the bench so we can keep the forwards rolling on off.
i think with a fully fit team lance should be on the bench with 3 big players and interchange with the loose like we did with moore last year adding that bit more zip around the ruck and replace power with speed with a pack that is either not big enough or good enough
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| Quote ="St pete"Lidten mate, Anyone with half a brain would have signed a prop soon as jammer said he was off.
It's not rocket science.'"
Who?
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Who?'"
Micheal Korkedas.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Who?'"
Kite, king, griffin, hill, o'meilly, Gibbs, Lauaki, dudson off the top of my head.
Ten props in the NRL moved clubs in the off season.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"It won't.'"
And you can state that categorically how, exactly?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"And you can state that categorically how, exactly?'"
Because I'm a freak of genius.
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| Quote ="McClennan"It is also what happened so what's your next move?'"
to be fair, when he signed, they were'nt champions or looking anything like it. If he was looking for a more successful team he'd have picked us (at that time)
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| Quote ="St pete"Kite, king, griffin, hill, o'meilly, Gibbs, Lauaki, dudson off the top of my head.
Ten props in the NRL moved clubs in the off season.'"
Of those listed playing in Superleague this season how many have outperformed Laffranchi this season?
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| Tell you what it's bloomin busy on here tonight.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Of those listed playing in Superleague this season how many have outperformed Laffranchi this season?'"
Kite and king play for current NRL champs. Gibbs is ten times the player laffranchci is. O'meilly is the sort of tough rough prop we need.
Not seen much of dudson and also don't know who the ten NRL props that moved are.
It's the clubs job to replace jammer, not mine.
If Royce wants to bring his old mate over to keep him company then it's back fired.
If youve ever watched laffranchci play in the NRL then you'd see he runs out wide and not down the middle.
The idea not to sign a halfback and not to replace jammer cost him his job.
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| Quote ="St pete"The idea not to sign a halfback and not to replace jammer cost him his job.'"
You've been on the ale again.
Royce stated quite clearly in the press at the time of seeking a replacement half for Pryce/Eastmond that there were no halfbacks available, and that Hohaia was the best out there. He also stated he wanted a prop but we have been outbid - again, an issue with the board, not Royce.
Royce did his best. Both Laffranchi and Flanagan look fine to me. They need time to settle in - and God knows what they must be thinking now. They came here because Royce was here. They now find themselves right in the middle of a catastrophe which also leaves them without the reason they came.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You've been on the ale again.
Royce stated quite clearly in the press at the time of seeking a replacement half for Pryce/Eastmond that there were no halfbacks available, and that Hohaia was the best out there. He also stated he wanted a prop but we have been outbid - again, an issue with the board, not Royce.
Royce did his best. Both Laffranchi and Flanagan look fine to me. They need time to settle in - and God knows what they must be thinking now. They came here because Royce was here. They now find themselves right in the middle of a catastrophe which also leaves them without the reason they came.'"
No halfbacks available so we give a fullback 4yr deal. Great thinking!
To be honest I don't take notice of anything Royce says as 99% of the time it's utter crap.
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| Quote ="St pete"No halfbacks available so we give a fullback 4yr deal. Great thinking! '"
Look, Pete, you were shown evidence when you last blathered on about this that Hohaia has played in the halves previously, including at first team level. That's where he began. He prefers it there and he came to saints to play there. He was only shifted to fullback a few years ago.
Quote To be honest I don't take notice of anything Royce says as 99% of the time it's utter crap.'"
Nah. You're talking about yourself again.
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| Quote ="St pete"Kite and king play for current NRL champs. Gibbs is ten times the player laffranchci is. O'meilly is the sort of tough rough prop we need.
Not seen much of dudson and also don't know who the ten NRL props that moved are.
It's the clubs job to replace jammer, not mine.
If Royce wants to bring his old mate over to keep him company then it's back fired.
If youve ever watched laffranchci play in the NRL then you'd see he runs out wide and not down the middle.
The idea not to sign a halfback and not to replace jammer cost him his job.'"
I'm gonna go ahead and guess you didn't read the post.
Kite and King currently play for the NRL Champs... exactly, would we have been able to attract and afford them?
Gibbs is 10 times the player Laffranchi is... 1) He's 27, 2) a current origin player & 3) In late 2010 "he signed a contract to remain with the Wests Tigers until the end of the 2014 season. However, by the middle of 2011, Wests Tigers had released Gibbs in order to make room for Adam Blair, and he signed a three year conract with the Cronulla Sharks from the start of 2012 - We would never have been able to afford or attract him either
O'Meley... is currently mid-way through a lucrative contract with Hull
Lauaki's stats aren't as good as Laffranchi's thus far, Dudson if I'm correct has yet to even play, Chris Hill's stats (though 2 games less) are comparable at best, Darrell Griffin's stats are currently inferior...
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Look, Pete, you were shown evidence when you last blathered on about this that Hohaia has played in the halves previously, including at first team level. That's where he began. He prefers it there and he came to saints to play there. He was only shifted to fullback a few years ago.
Nah. You're talking about yourself again.'"
Why hasn't he been playing in the halves then?
Don't say because roby is out, he was on the bench before robes got hurt.
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| Quote ="St pete"Why hasn't he been playing in the halves then? '"
The man has only just landed in this country, although God knows he must be wondering what on earth he has let himself in for. You don't throw someone who knows nothing about the ethos, structure, etc of a team straight in at the deep end if you don't have to. He has played in the halves though and we won those games (although that could be coincidence of course). But not consistently as yet because he needed time and Royce wanted to keep his players fresh to get a GF win this time, so he was rotating them.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"I'm gonna go ahead and guess you didn't read the post.
Kite and King currently play for the NRL Champs... exactly, would we have been able to attract and afford them?
Gibbs is 10 times the player Laffranchi is... 1) He's 27, 2) a current origin player & 3) In late 2010 "he signed a contract to remain with the Wests Tigers until the end of the 2014 season. However, by the middle of 2011, Wests Tigers had released Gibbs in order to make room for Adam Blair, and he signed a three year conract with the Cronulla Sharks from the start of 2012 - We would never have been able to afford or attract him either
O'Meley... is currently mid-way through a lucrative contract with Hull
Lauaki's stats aren't as good as Laffranchi's thus far, Dudson if I'm correct has yet to even play, Chris Hill's stats (though 2 games less) are comparable at best, Darrell Griffin's stats are currently inferior...'"
Are you Phil Clarke?
Listen, the was props available and we opted for a average backrow to replace the best player at the club.
Is is from a coach that constantly said he won't pick players out of postion and that was the main reason for the back on the bench.
He wont play players out of postion but signs a backrow and fullback to play prop and stand off
Well if we can't find a prop anywhere in the world in the time we had (10 props moved in the NRL) then props will be extinct soon.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The man has only just landed in this country, although God knows he must be wondering what on earth he has let himself in for. You don't throw someone who knows nothing about the ethos, structure, etc of a team straight in at the deep end if you don't have to. He has played in the halves though and we won those games (although that could be coincidence of course). But not consistently as yet because he needed time and Royce wanted to keep his players fresh to get a GF win this time, so he was rotating them.'"
He's a world cup winning player who's played in NRL grand finals so I'd suspect he'd be ok against super league sides.
I'd thought he'd stuck with him at #7 if he thought he was the answer.
Only time will tell if he makes it in the halves but I'm willing to bet you £200 he don't make a success of that postion.
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| Quote ="St pete"Listen, the was props available and we opted for a average backrow to replace the best player at the club.'"
Look (which is more appropriate since we are typing on a screen), there were props available, we bid for them, and they went elsewhere.
End of debate.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Look (which is more appropriate since we are typing on a screen), there were props available, we bid for them, and they went elsewhere.
End of debate.'"
Maybe they just had chat with Royce and went elsewhere
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